tonyparker
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Post by tonyparker on May 6, 2010 14:28:51 GMT -5
Man, even if we strike out on some of the guys we are on, I feel like we are still looking good. I can't remember Georgetown being listed with this many top guys across the board.
PG: Quinn Cook (Tyrone Johnson, Bishop Daniels) SG: Mychael Henry (Jerome Seagears) SF: Quincy Miller (Branden Dawson, Eric Katenda, Sam Thompson) PF: Johnny O'Bryant (Mikael Hopkins, Desmond Hubert, Jacob Lawson, Darion Atkins) C: Rakeem Christmas (Angelo Chol, Anthony Davis, Jordon Omegbehin, Deng Leek, Greg Lewis)
Twenty guys who seem very interested in us. Four spots available.
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cnyhoya
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Post by cnyhoya on May 6, 2010 15:33:35 GMT -5
It's an impressive list. If we close the deal with a few, it will be a truly special class.
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on May 6, 2010 16:12:28 GMT -5
JOB too @ PF/C. To varying degrees there are others who have Hoyas listed; though they probably don't have offers.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on May 6, 2010 16:30:57 GMT -5
It sure is fun reading these lists. It will be even more fun if/when we get to celebrate some commitments!
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Post by mfrekko on May 6, 2010 20:27:40 GMT -5
Realistically, I think a class of Ty, Katenda, Jordon O, and some random dude we don't know about sounds right to me.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on May 6, 2010 21:01:34 GMT -5
lol so u really have zero faith in our recruiting?
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damnhoya
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Post by damnhoya on May 6, 2010 21:36:22 GMT -5
Realistically, I think a class of Ty, Katenda, Jordon O, and some random dude we don't know about sounds right to me. If this is our class, I will be SHOCKED. 2010 would have been a better year...
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on May 7, 2010 13:43:13 GMT -5
If you substitute Rak for Jordan, it starts to look a bit better. I hope we can also be a little better than Random Guy.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on May 7, 2010 13:52:55 GMT -5
Realistically, I think a class of Ty, Katenda, Jordon O, and some random dude we don't know about sounds right to me. If this is our class, I will be SHOCKED. 2010 would have been a better year... The funny thing is, I wouldn't be at all unhappy with that class. I think we'd all be estatic with Ty, right? I don't know enough about Katenda to comment, but he seems to have a ton of potential. I think people are sleeping too much on Jordan O. There's immense defensive value to a 7' -- something no 6'9" guy this side of Jarvis Varnardo usually has, and his athleticism plus the size has me hoping he's a Hoya. As for the unknown dude -- we often get recruits that don't seem to be on our radar, mostly because the staff is pretty quiet and a lot of our commits pop immediately. It doesn't mean they are bad. In other words, I'm no guru, but that's a really good class to my eye, a lot depending on Katenda.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 7, 2010 14:01:09 GMT -5
I'll be a little disappointed if we don't manage to pull at least 1 5 star out of this class.
As the rankings are now we're on the list for 6 of them, so that'd be a little disappointing. We could still have a very strong class if we didn't, but going 0/6 on big names would be a little disappointing.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on May 7, 2010 14:12:54 GMT -5
I'll be a little disappointed if we don't manage to pull at least 1 5 star out of this class. As the rankings are now we're on the list for 6 of them, so that'd be a little disappointing. We could still have a very strong class if we didn't, but going 0/6 on big names would be a little disappointing. Rankings and the arbitrary lines of 5 stars are silly. I mean, yeah, in the aggregate they mean something, but really needing to get #24 and getting Editeded you only got #36 is pointless, but rankings aren't accurate like that. I just want good players, and frankly I'm okay with getting four stars if that means that they don't leave after two years and before their teams accomplish anything.
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richfame
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Post by richfame on May 7, 2010 14:29:17 GMT -5
I agree with SF. I think its been kinda frustrating the past few years becuase it seems we are One year away, then someone bolts for the league or transfers occur. This year wed be sick with GM. Or if Green stayed for his SR year. Hopefully we can get some solid 4 star guys and timing will be good when and if we do get that impact 5 start one and done...
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 7, 2010 14:50:41 GMT -5
Fine let me replace 5 stars with big names or the guys first on the coaching staff's list. I don't necessarily know for sure who those name are, but you can get a sense. If we miss out on all our first options I will be a little disappointed. We would still have the chance of having a great class even if we do, but it will be disappointing to miss out on all our primary targets. You're right he stars and numbers aren't important, but I want coach to land the guys he wants to land the most. I think no matter what we're going to get a several very good players next year so no matter who we bring in I won't be disappointed with the class we bring in. Like it seems fairly obvious we really want christmas so it will be disappointing if we don't get him, but I can still be very excited if we end up with say jordan O. I used 5 stars since several of those 5 stars are clearly players we're going very hard after and clearly want. I obviosuly wouldn't be upset if we target #24 and get #36, but I would be a little disappointed if we target #3, #4 #13, #16 #19, #20 and ended up with #93, #94, #103, #106, #109, and #110 for example
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on May 7, 2010 16:57:43 GMT -5
I'll be a little disappointed if we don't manage to pull at least 1 5 star out of this class. As the rankings are now we're on the list for 6 of them, so that'd be a little disappointing. We could still have a very strong class if we didn't, but going 0/6 on big names would be a little disappointing. Rankings and the arbitrary lines of 5 stars are silly. I mean, yeah, in the aggregate they mean something, but really needing to get #24 and getting Editeded you only got #36 is pointless, but rankings aren't accurate like that. I just want good players, and frankly I'm okay with getting four stars if that means that they don't leave after two years and before their teams accomplish anything. agreed that rankings are arbitrary and can sometimes be deceiving (especially in some classes over others) but as HSB mentioned these guys seem to be first choice for the staff....if we go 0 For whatever I would be disappointed too and i feel like others would be as well..... I would be realllly bummed about not getting Christmas in particular I am in no way saying i expect to land all of these guys, or every top player we go after, but you do need a superstar or two on your team...saying you'd be content without them is a little simplistic. Yes there certainly are teams that do well as a TEAM and play well together and thus are able to overcome teams with superior talent (will lead to my further point). Completely acknowledged. Whether some will admit or not we are an elite program and we should get and need to get our share of studs to stay that way. The problem with our program and how the staff has put together our roster previously has been keeping supporting players around to provide the glue to make the team truly great and mesh with your superstars. I think that the staff has really seen this and taken a different approach to our recruiting and I think we will see the positive benefit of this in the near future. Regardless we will have a good class but it would be silly to argue against not being a bit disappointed missing all our top choices
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Post by mfrekko on May 9, 2010 6:45:53 GMT -5
The recruiting game is mysterious, unpredictable, and highly speculative.
I just don't think our chance with Cook, Miller, JO'B are very strong. Henry is a possibility, but Wisconsin and Illinois are all over him - that will be tough for the Hoyas to overcome.
We have fairly strong indications that Ty and Rak are serious about us - I'm figuring it would be good to bat .500 and nab one of these guys.
Katenda has an offer and it sounds like Hoyas are his dream school.
If we strike out on Rak, we probably go with Jordon, who sounds like he'll come if offerred.
The random dude comment was not meant to suggest that the 4th guy will be a low caliber recruit. Rather, I was suggesting that it will be someone that no one is talking about right now.
Bowen is an example from 2010. Benimon is an example from 2009.
There is always a surprise or two. I'd personally be satisfied (although disappointed if we lose Rak) with this kind of class.
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on May 9, 2010 13:59:33 GMT -5
Henry is a possibility, but Wisconsin and Illinois are all over him - that will be tough for the Hoyas to overcome. If Henry really wanted to go to Wisconsin or Illinois, he would have committed by now. They've been the high majors on him the longest, before he's "blown up" on the AAU scene. Henry just took another visit to Illinois this weekend and didn't commit. I think he wants to visit Georgetown and see what his other options are besides Illinois and Wisconsin before committing anywhere.
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tonyparker
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Post by tonyparker on May 9, 2010 14:15:00 GMT -5
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Post by HometownHoya on May 9, 2010 16:03:20 GMT -5
I know a lot of people have been looking at him as a back-up or project. I'm sure that his development hurts him that much more from this injury. Can see him going to a mid high-major or a high mid-major
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idhoya
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Post by idhoya on May 10, 2010 10:31:07 GMT -5
At least he's got time to rehab before college.
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on May 10, 2010 22:51:24 GMT -5
I think it's fair for Ranch to suggest we'll get some "random guy". In 2010 nobody knew about Bowen until a few days before he committed. Moses wasn't even in the US until into his senior year. So those are 2 guys who were sort of off-the-radar. In 2009, nobody knew about Bennimon until a couple days before he committed, and while we sort of knew about Vee, he didn't show up on the radar until into his senior year (same as Moses, basically). So that's 2 off-the-radar guys. And in 2007, nobody knew anything about Nikita until just before he committed, just like Benimon, and while we sort of knew about Wattad nobody was at all focusing on him until he made his visit and committed. So really, In 3 of the last 4 classes, there were not 1 but 2 guys who were eventually part of the class who were not really on the radar of the fans by the summer before their senior years (now, for 2011). Therefore, seems pretty logical to guess that we'll have a similar guy this year. My wild guess based just on the vibes I get would be Johnson, Christmas, Katenda and "random guy".... A very nice class that'd go nicely with what we brought in in 2010. My dream class would be Cook, O'Bryant, Jordan O and best available player (Chol or Christmas, or maybe an elite wing like Dawson [no shot ])... I think O'Bryant will be a star. Something very Jeff Green about that guy, but with more intensity. He'd be #1 on my list if I could choose. I think Jordan is great because he's enormous and can move, and could help so much on defense. The D has been lacking the last 2 years, not so much because we've got worse defenders on the perimeter, but because we don't have a monster in the pain to discourage people from going to the rack. Jordan could be that guy again. With the injury he's got now, I could see him being willing to redshirt a year to adjust to high major play. Know he's something of a project, but the ceiling is insanely high, and I think we can deal with a project since we've picked up some bigs who figure to contribute (JB, Nate, Moses) and have more on the radar.
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