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Post by NCHoya on Mar 11, 2010 9:31:50 GMT -5
Here is the link: tinyurl.com/ykxnpdyI found this to be an overwhelming negative article after just thrashing a good, 20 win Big East team. I mean, how much more could we have reasonably won by? She acts like USF was 10 game winner or something. She goe son to write USF stopped itself and our defense was not the reason for their horrible offensive effort. I am not sure what she watched in the first half? It should have been fairly obvious, and Doris Burke and even Pasch brought up on several occasions, the Hoyas were going to let USF take open jumpshots until they proved they could make them. They never proved it, so yeah, they got open jumpshots. No kidding, it was the strategic intent and USF bigs did nothing all game! I hate it when these columnists begin to cover a team in March, after never watching a team's game previous to it. Jenkins acted surprised about our slow start, our lack of outward emotion, is she kidding? At least talk to Liz Clarke a little or anyone who follows BE bball, before writing stuff everyone already knows, especially if you are going to be so negative. Maybe it was just me, but I was not expecting a negative take on yesterday's game, especially from someone with such a novice understanding of basic basketball game planning and the Hoyas in general.
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Post by damnhoya on Mar 11, 2010 9:45:18 GMT -5
Couldn't agree more. This article is really garbage. I don't know if she has watched us play more than once all year. (And I really hope we win today, then she can eat her words). Freeman is our X factor? Really? How is your most consistent player (along with Monroe) your X factor? She makes it sound like we won in 2OT against them.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Mar 11, 2010 9:48:02 GMT -5
SHE IS AN IDIOT whoever let her write this article should be fired, or better yet she should
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Post by lurkerhoya on Mar 11, 2010 9:48:42 GMT -5
What a quack.
Apparently forcing a bad shooting team to shoot is just luck on your part when they don't go in.
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Post by guru on Mar 11, 2010 9:50:37 GMT -5
I hate it when these columnists begin to cover a team in March, after never watching a team's game previous to it. Jenkins acted surprised about our slow start, our lack of outward emotion, is she kidding? This is her MO. She's a columnist for the Post who lives full time in New York City, so she basically "covers" the DC teams whenever they happen to play a game in New York. It's a bizarre setup, and it leads to vacuous columns such as this one.
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 11, 2010 9:56:16 GMT -5
Eh, just look at that picture. She seems like one of those cold, soul-less women who's never been "loved," if you know what I mean.
She should stick to her specialty, which seems to be flavor-of-the-moment garbage pieces about topics such as: (1) attacking the IOC (that one works at least once every two years) (2) attacking Tiger Woods's apology (very original) (3) calling "intolerant" all the people who disliked Tim Tebow's Super Bowl ad (I don't even remember the ad), and (4) two fluff-pieces about the New Orleans Saints (one about their kicker talking to his "inner voice" and the other about flood waters or something).
Those are the last five articles she'd written before the one about us. I can't believe with so many people out of work, a major newspaper has decided to keep this kind of uselessness on the payroll.
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Post by Grandpa on Mar 11, 2010 10:09:24 GMT -5
The thing I found equally frustrating about Jenkins' column was that it appeared (to me at least) as though she may have influenced Liz Clarke into writing her USF game recap from an angle that supported her view, as opposed to taking the potential "Hoyas may have righted the ship" angle that one would have though would have been the more logical response to the Hoyas having 2 back to back 20 point victories after stumbling down the stretch.
That being said, the team & fans of the team don't need the press to laud the performance, just keep getting it done on the court at noon today and beyond. If it's for real, they'll follow soon enough. Go Hoyas!
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Post by FOTP on Mar 11, 2010 10:16:03 GMT -5
This was a drive by shooting. What a joke. Winning a Big East tournament game by 20 points is an amazing accomplishment. Take a look at every other game in the Big East Tournament the past two days...I don't believe a game had a bigger margin of victory.
This style took us to a Big East title, championship game and a Final Four. Nothing has changed.
She is a joke. Both articles made me laugh. I had to ask...did they write the articles before the game?
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Post by guru on Mar 11, 2010 10:20:10 GMT -5
The thing I found equally frustrating about Jenkins' column was that it appeared (to me at least) as though she may have influenced Liz Clarke into writing her USF game recap from an angle that supported her view, as opposed to taking the potential "Hoyas may have righted the ship" angle that one would have though would have been the more logical response to the Hoyas having 2 back to back 20 point victories after stumbling down the stretch. That being said, the team & fans of the team don't need the press to laud the performance, just keep getting it done on the court at noon today and beyond. If it's for real, they'll follow soon enough. Go Hoyas! More (ignored by the Post) evidence that the ship may have been righted: The Cincy team the Hoyas pasted by 27 a few days ago knocked off Louisville. Screw the Post - we'll beat Syracuse today and tomorrow's sports section will have a 3/4 page photo of Ugly Vasquez previewing the ACC Tourney.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 11, 2010 10:38:35 GMT -5
Maybe coach requested this smear job to keep the team focused.
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Post by momzer on Mar 11, 2010 10:48:36 GMT -5
I think this was written by BUM with her byline on it, or maybe the other way around. In either case, it was a smear job of the first order. If I didn't know the score, I would have thought we won in double OT. Unbelievably bad story by a terrible writer who allegedly is suppose to be objective. UGH.
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on Mar 11, 2010 10:52:51 GMT -5
Some pretty solid comments from many HoyaTalkers to set that writer straight. What an amateur!
That article was a piece.of.garbage. It sounds like Sally read one or two articles about the Hoyas back in Feb and pulled that into an analysis of yesterday's game. Whoops. Might want to do some actual research next time, dude; like, start with actually mentioning that USF beat Gtown at home on Feb 3 to start the team's slide, maybe?!?
I will give her headline credit (though her editor probably wrote it). This team is a mystery; it has its ups and down and is sometimes inexplicable; obviously all of us here recognize that.
And we will mysteriously and inexplicably wipe the floor with the Cuse in a little over an hour.
I wonder what Ms. Jenkins will have to say about that?
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Mar 11, 2010 11:01:21 GMT -5
Ms. Jenkins is entitled to her opinion, but, frankly who cares what she thinks? It's not like she's some basketball guru who has demonstrated keen insight. She's much more of a generalist whose columns tend to reflect just that.
She likely does have contact with Liz Clarke, but is no doubt most comfortable with her own perspective. So be it. If she has criticisms/negative comments to make, that's her right. Yes, almost all of her comments we've heard or said ourselves before. But if we're looking for folks to come singing our praises after a win or two -- fagittaboutit! We ain't won three in a row since conference play began. Now's the time for the Hoyas to prove themselves. Period.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 11, 2010 11:02:26 GMT -5
There's no doubt that the Hoyas have been inconsistent this year.
But every team is inconsistent in the context of a single game. It's not that she hasn't seen the Hoyas -- it is that she knows nothing about basketball. At all.
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 11, 2010 11:07:06 GMT -5
Sounds like you guys just didn't like the article because she's a woman. [scarcasm]
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 11, 2010 11:13:46 GMT -5
Sounds like you guys just didn't like the article because she's a woman. [scarcasm] Aww, Ed, are you playing the victim again?
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Post by kchoya on Mar 11, 2010 11:18:41 GMT -5
I think we know who ended up with all of the writing abilities from that gene pool.
Seriously, as has been pointed out, how are you a sports columnist for the Post when you live in New York? Love him or hate him, but as Kornheiser has said, if you're going to be a columnist for a paper and write about the events in that city, you have to live in the city. It's one thing if George Will or Richard Cohen live elsewhere (though I don't think they do) because they write about national topics. But for a metro or sports columnist not even to live in the city or the area, that's a joke. And it shows in her writing.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 11, 2010 11:23:06 GMT -5
The thing I found equally frustrating about Jenkins' column was that it appeared (to me at least) as though she may have influenced Liz Clarke into writing her USF game recap from an angle that supported her view, as opposed to taking the potential "Hoyas may have righted the ship" angle that one would have though would have been the more logical response to the Hoyas having 2 back to back 20 point victories after stumbling down the stretch. That being said, the team & fans of the team don't need the press to laud the performance, just keep getting it done on the court at noon today and beyond. If it's for real, they'll follow soon enough. Go Hoyas! More (ignored by the Post) evidence that the ship may have been righted: The Cincy team the Hoyas pasted by 27 a few days ago knocked off Louisville. Screw the Post - we'll beat Syracuse today and tomorrow's sports section will have a 3/4 page photo of Ugly Vasquez previewing the ACC Tourney. What are you talking about? Are you serious? Don't you know that the Post loves Georgetown and hates UMCB (University of Maryland - Couch Burning)? Just ask Gary Williams and any Twerp fan - they'll tell you it's true.
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Post by wildhoya on Mar 11, 2010 14:12:28 GMT -5
so now the question is---will Sally post ? absolutely cannot wait to see.
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Post by hoyahalffull on Mar 11, 2010 14:24:20 GMT -5
so now the question is---will Sally post ? absolutely cannot wait to see. No. And Sally got served by Doris Burke after JTIII cut into/fired up the team after giving up a cherry pick lay up.
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