Benimon is our best 6th Man...

[bhhoya]

and needs more minutes. Jerrelle, who averaged 21.0 pts., 17 boards, 7 assists, 4 blocks last year as a senior in HS plays tough inside, can board and should replace Vaughn/Clark around the 4 minute mark.

Hollis also needs to step up. I'll take 6-8 points per game. He has now been coached in JTIII's system for a year and a half and needs to show it. That and start making some big pressure shots.

No question, Hoyas need some bench scoring or we won't beat elite teams in the tourneys without it.

Sims looks lost and not yet ready for Big East hoops.

On a aside from Hoyas Hoops, I was sorry to see that Alexander Haig passed away today. A big Hoya Saxa to the Class of '61, MA distinguished Hoya Alum.

Crunch the Cardinal.

Indy or Bust.

[gujake]

Benimon probably does look the least "lost" out there, but he has a long way to go, especially offensively. He is not a threat at all out there. Somebody in another thread made a comparison to Jeremiah Rivers (but not nearly as good a defender), and I think that comparison is a pretty good one at this point. His man can just drop off and double team Monroe because Benimon is no threat to shoot.

He's also a turnover machine right now. His TO% is by far the highest on the team. Not trying to rip him too much because he's a freshman and he brings a lot of energy, but he's an absolute liability on offense, and if anything I think he should be playing less minutes.

[gamp]

Hollis is our 6th man... and our best 6th man.

[krukster201]

YES HOLLIS is our 6th man and Benimon needs to work on his "O" the entire summer.
I have a feeling Hollis will grow into a fine player once he gains more confidence and developes physically (HARD WORK THIS SUMMER). I also expect Henry to make great strides into next yr. We will need all the help we can get , next yr (with or without Greg) the Hoyas have a chance to be special and it will be one of JTIII's deepest squads. Maybe he can take a page out of Big John's book (like the womens coach) and add some full court press or traps. WISHFUL THINKING ...

[bronxhoya87]

Benimon is a perfect example of what bad recruiting and transfers do to your program. He is not ready to play at this level.

[skyhoya]

I agree with you Bronx, last year one senior from IIIs first recruiting class, this year no seniors from IIIs second recruiting class, but a great junior class left on the team. What is III saving his scholarships for?, Dr J? .

He needs to add two more to the two good ones for next year.

[bronxhoya87]

JTIII's recruiting has gone to hell. Couple that with the transfers and yikes. However Wattad and the Russian should have never been recruited. I said it then and I will say it now.

JTIII needs to step it up in recruiting. If Greg decides to come back he needs to get some JC players (PG/ PF) that are ready to play now! We got 2 good kids coming in but we needed another top 30 SF. Missing out on Kendrick to a mid major with a unproven head coach was a major downer.

If Greg comes back we have to go balls to the wall to win it all next year. Take a few chances JTIII.

[Eurostar]

nikita and omar were not bad recruits. from all accounts, they were told that they would be 4 year players and were not guaranteed a starting spot or even much playing time. low level recruits coming to georgetown the year after we made it to the final 4 should not have lofty expectations of playing time. their transfers still shock me because they knew what they were getting into.

the transfers of rivers and macklin are more expected to me. they were both people who didnt fit into our system because they were not versatile on offense and ended up leaving for systems that fit their styles better.

[bronxhoya87]

They were bad recruits especially after coming off of a Final Four. JTIII needs to learn from the lessons of Gary Williams, Nolan Rich and his daddy. You can never stop recruiting the best players especially when you are the HOT school of the moment.

From the moment I saw them I knew they were not major players at this level. They could stay here 15 years and they would have never developed enough to be big time players at this level. Sadly I see the same thing with #20. The jury is still out on Vee but I am not liking what my head is telling me about him.

When I check recruiting I check the other offers that they kid has. Both of the kids did not have the best teams after them. That worries me.

[CTHoya08]

You do realize that Nikita and Wattad were not a stand alone recruiting class, don't you? They came in the same year as Freeman and Wright. I guess III can't recruit because he only brought in two McDAA that year instead of four.

[sweetness]

Bronxhoya is making some good points on recruiting, even if we don't agree with other points he is making. I fully support JTIII and don't want him going anywhere -- He's been an absolute home run (it kind of goes w/o saying), and honestly I'd give him a pass for more than a few years even if we weren't winning based on what he's done to resurrect the program.

But he's left some money on the table with respect to recruiting over the last few years. Not the end of the world, but as Bronx said you have to dominate on the recruiting front while you are hot -- and we were hot. At one point I felt we could have gotten almost anyone.

I know we got big recruits, just not enough. And I agree we took too many fliers on marginal players -- let's stick to Big East caliber players.

[bronxhoya87]

Walter P......this is not hindsite either. I said it when they committed. If you are going to take a flyer on a kid make sure he is 6'9 and up and can at least change a game with his mere presence on defense. Mistakes have been made on the recruiting front namely.....

The Russian
Wattad
#20....that is what comes to mind right now.

[sweetness]

I am more optimistic than you about Benimon, not ready to say mistake - but we should not be in a position where we have to thrust him into a major role. I mean effectively this is our back up big man. I know there are other player developement issues related to this, but still.

I don't mind having 1 project on the roster, even if they are not a big. But we just haven't added the bodies in quantity. No more saving schollys -- hopefully we close out '10 recuiting strong.

[hoyaboya]

Imagine if this team had Rivers and Macklin...that is the quality, experienced depth we are lacking. Neither is a world beater and both have significant holes in their game, but so do the 2 frosh we're currently relying on for the minimal depth we have (Thompson - no defense, Bennimon - no offense).

Add Macklin and Rivers to this squad and we're 7 deep with guys that can play. Right now, we're 5 1/2 deep (I still have confidence in Hollis, though he's been more limited than I expected as a freshman). A 5 1/2 deep team just isn't going to go too far in a loaded Big East. We really need the brackets to break our way to have a good shot at the Sweet 16, which isn't something you should say about a team with 3 McDonald's All Americans on it, including the #1 recruit in the country for his class.

[bronxhoya87]

I think Thompson has a chance but I must admit he is not what I thought he would be.

[OldHoyafan]

Feb 21, 2010 15:30:31 GMT -5 hoyaboya said:

Imagine if this team had Rivers and Macklin...that is the quality, experienced depth we are lacking. Neither is a world beater and both have significant holes in their game, but so do the 2 frosh we're currently relying on for the minimal depth we have (Thompson - no defense, Bennimon - no offense).

Add Macklin and Rivers to this squad and we're 7 deep with guys that can play. Right now, we're 5 1/2 deep (I still have confidence in Hollis, though he's been more limited than I expected as a freshman). A 5 1/2 deep team just isn't going to go too far in a loaded Big East. We really need the brackets to break our way to have a good shot at the Sweet 16, which isn't something you should say about a team with 3 McDonald's All Americans on it, including the #1 recruit in the country for his class.

If Macklin does not transfer then we are not looking for a big man and Vaughn is not offered transfer, therefore the only experienced person we are missing is Rivers slot, because I think this year Vaughn has given us more than Macklin would have. I don't see how anyone can call Benimon a mistake, JT3 had to find a big body anywhere he could when we lost out on the 2 PF recruits(I will not call there names to not risk a 50 page post).

[SFHoya99]

You act as if Thompson took Benimon over a McD's AA.

[EasyEd]

Who else can we dice up and send into the shredder? Must make you feel big.

[richfame]

The answer to the question is Hollis is our best 6th man. He also has the most potential of any of the frosh or soph on the team. The kid is going to be a very good hoya. He shows a ton of upside.

Benimon is a good player too, developing ceretainly.

Sims you all know how i Feel there. I dont see anything that leads me to believe he will blossom to what people on this board think he will become. But no biggie. We have a solild recruit signed for next year in Lubick. Lubick will be better as a frosh than Henry is as a soph. Mark it down.

As far as future recruiting, Lets give 3 the benefit here. He has recruited some very good players in the past and he will recruit some very good players in the future. This program is better off than it was 5 years ago. We have to stay positive guys..

[DanMcQ]

The topic of who is the 'best 6th man' is fair game for discussion. Gratuitous put downs of current players will be deleted going forward.