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Post by Admin on Nov 17, 2009 7:08:32 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaparents on Nov 17, 2009 9:38:02 GMT -5
I had lunch yesterday with a Trustee of Fordham University. He explained the cooperation between the University, the Athletic Department and the alumni to make a commitment to their football program.
I am not advocating that GU follow the same path to full scholarship, but wouldn't it be nice just to have the opportunity to sit down with the GU administration, the athletic department and the alumni to discuss the future, and chart a course.
I'm willing to buy to coffee and cookies.
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Post by 98hoya on Nov 17, 2009 9:48:13 GMT -5
I had lunch yesterday with a Trustee of Fordham University. He explained the cooperation between the University, the Athletic Department and the alumni to make a commitment to their football program. I am not advocating that GU follow the same path to full scholarship, but wouldn't it be nice just to have the opportunity to sit down with the GU administration, the athletic department and the alumni to discuss the future, and chart a course. I'm willing to buy to coffee and cookies. Great idea. Is trying to arrange this something the new organization you're putting together can do as a starting project? |
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Post by hoyaparents on Nov 17, 2009 10:16:54 GMT -5
98hoya, we have tried to arrange a meeting with the AD and the Gridiron Club, without any success to date.
I suspect we need to wait until after this season is over. but it is on our to do list.
If we get the new organization off the ground, the intent is to be constructive, not a gadfly.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Nov 17, 2009 11:19:02 GMT -5
I hate to be insensitive to all the hardworking players, coaches, parents, alumni and fans - but is anyone else on this board rooting for a winless season?
Maybe that will finally get the message across to the Athletic Department that something needs to seriously change.
Besides, 1-10 would be just another miserable season of Georgetown football. 0-11 would be HISTORY.
Edited. Avoid calling for a specific coach to be fired.-Admin
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Post by PhillyHoya on Nov 17, 2009 11:44:01 GMT -5
I hate to be insensitive to all the hardworking players, coaches, parents, alumni and fans - but is anyone else on this board rooting for a winless season? Maybe that will finally get the message across to the Athletic Department that something needs to seriously change. Besides, 1-10 would be just another miserable season of Georgetown football. 0-11 would be HISTORY. Edited. Avoid calling for a specific coach to be fired.-AdminMy thoughts exactly. Winless may get more attention than 1-10. Do people remember the 2008 Lions? Of course. But the forgot the 1-15 2007 Dolphins. That being said, hope the guys are able to make it a game and no more injuries! |
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Post by hoyaparents on Nov 17, 2009 11:49:39 GMT -5
CAhoya07, win or lose, the program needs a change in direction.
Let's win one for the seniors.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 17, 2009 12:46:50 GMT -5
No fan with any good sense would root for a loss. It's an insult to the team. Did you root for Craig Esherick to lose every game, too?
There's no magic number of wins or losses that triggers change. Every situation is different: Dartmouth was 0-10 last year and Buddy Teevens is still on the sidelines, while Notre Dame is 6-4 and the bunting is already being set up along the motorcade to run Charlie Weis out of town. A win-loss record doesn't lead to change per se, but it is reflective of the issues which led to the record.
Change is coming to Georgetown Football. It may be with or without many of the familiar names, but it is coming.
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Post by theexorcist on Nov 17, 2009 13:00:27 GMT -5
No fan with any good sense would root for a loss. It's an insult to the team. Did you root for Craig Esherick to lose every game, too? There's no magic number of wins or losses that triggers change. Every situation is different: Dartmouth was 0-10 last year and Buddy Teevens is still on the sidelines, while Notre Dame is 6-4 and the bunting is already being set up along the motorcade to run Charlie Weis out of town. A win-loss record doesn't lead to change per se, but it is reflective of the issues which led to the record. Change is coming to Georgetown Football. It may be with or without many of the familiar names, but it is coming. At the end of the Esherick era, I didn't go to the Phone Booth, but I was hoping that the Hoyas would lose to Virginia Tech and thus not make the BE tournament to allow things to bottom out and prove that the team was that bad. I'm not proud of it, but that season was a nightmare and I wanted out. |
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Post by hoyawatcher on Nov 17, 2009 13:14:06 GMT -5
98hoya, we have tried to arrange a meeting with the AD and the Gridiron Club, without any success to date. I suspect we need to wait until after this season is over. but it is on our to do list. If we get the new organization off the ground, the intent is to be constructive, not a gadfly. Hoyaparents - what is the old expression - "Timing is everything"  With that while I expect everyone in the Athletic office and administration office knows that a lot of changes including coaching needs to be made, no one is going to be willing to start to discuss those changes until after the season is over and the new AD hired. Until then I think there is a certainly some ability to put yourself and others on the radar as willing and eager to help but trying to go beyond that is probably just going to frustrate everyone involved. Like you I have some suggestions for things I would like to see changed with the olympic sports where I have a kid, but I don't have any expectation anyone would be willing to engage on them until after the new AD comes in. When he/she does come in I hope they get a flood of comments / ideas / commitments for a lot of sports. The timing will be right. |
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Post by 98hoya on Nov 17, 2009 13:45:51 GMT -5
Change is coming to Georgetown Football. It may be with or without many of the familiar names, but it is coming. Interesting comment ( and ominous?). Care to elaborate? |
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Post by CAHoya07 on Nov 17, 2009 14:21:04 GMT -5
No fan with any good sense would root for a loss. It's an insult to the team. Did you root for Craig Esherick to lose every game, too? I rooted for the Hoyas every last game of the 2003-04 season, and still attended all games I was in town for. However, even the worst Esherick year was light years ahead of the year-in, year-out laughingstock that football has become. That said, best of luck to everyone involved with the program on Saturday. |
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Post by strummer8526 on Nov 17, 2009 14:27:24 GMT -5
Edited. Avoid calling for a specific coach to be fired.-Admin Why? If there's one thing the Georgetown fan base is remembered for, it's appropriately calling for an inept basketball coach to be fired. That turned out ok. It's not like we just sit around all season calling for firings throughout the Athletic Department. But when a major sport turns into a complete joke under the leadership of one person, what's wrong with saying something should be done about it, and as part of that, identifying the leader of the team as a problem? |
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Post by hoyaparents on Nov 17, 2009 14:33:41 GMT -5
DFW HOYA, you say change is coming. Care to share.
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Post by gwhiz on Nov 17, 2009 19:35:07 GMT -5
No fan with any good sense would root for a loss. It's an insult to the team. Did you root for Craig Esherick to lose every game, too? There's no magic number of wins or losses that triggers change. Every situation is different: Dartmouth was 0-10 last year and Buddy Teevens is still on the sidelines, while Notre Dame is 6-4 and the bunting is already being set up along the motorcade to run Charlie Weis out of town. A win-loss record doesn't lead to change per se, but it is reflective of the issues which led to the record. Change is coming to Georgetown Football. It may be with or without many of the familiar names, but it is coming. Make sure they tell the candidates this time that the position is to coach American Football. |
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Post by gtowndad on Nov 17, 2009 20:12:19 GMT -5
If Navy can beat ND and Stanford can beat USC, there is no reason that the Hoya's can not win a Patriot league game or 3. I do not know much about the Navy program but Stanford is a prime example of what a good coaching staff can do. Their offensive play calling is exactly the opposite of Georgetown's . By that, I mean creative and well thought out, using the players talents to their fullest. Hopefully, we can find a coach next year who will be creative, learn from his mistakes, try new things and adapt to the players he has on the field.
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Post by hoyaparents on Nov 19, 2009 8:34:09 GMT -5
Seniors, thank you for your passion, commitment and dedication to a sport you love.
Now, let's go out with a win.
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Post by FLHoya on Nov 19, 2009 20:26:09 GMT -5
If Navy can beat ND and Stanford can beat USC, there is no reason that the Hoya's can not win a Patriot league game or 3. I do not know much about the Navy program but Stanford is a prime example of what a good coaching staff can do. We should totally get a coach with some experience on Navy's staff to help us turn around our...AWWWWWWWWW CRAP!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by gtowndad on Nov 19, 2009 20:51:09 GMT -5
FLHoya, that is pretty funny. I am new to the program. I forgot where we recruited our present coach from. I must say that Navy got the better end of the deal.
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Post by hoya3 on Nov 20, 2009 9:24:29 GMT -5
For what its worth - I am a Gtown football alum and my neighbor is a Fordham alum and a school trustee. He did not play football there. After they went 0-11 a few years ago he, along with a couple other board members, were so embarrassed, the coach was immediately fired and a complete program overhaul was completed. Two years later they had like 9 wins. Gtown could have whatever type of program they wanted. Its not that hard as long as:
1) You actually have an Athletic Director (that's pretty obvious)
2) Board members who, if nothing else, want their school to athletically/academically represent itself respectively.
3) Honest communication vs. confused bureaucracy
Then, with some actual direction and real communication, Gtown could hire a coach and overhaul the program.
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