theexorcist
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Post by theexorcist on Nov 20, 2009 10:27:13 GMT -5
For what its worth - I am a Gtown football alum and my neighbor is a Fordham alum and a school trustee. He did not play football there. After they went 0-11 a few years ago he, along with a couple other board members, were so embarrassed, the coach was immediately fired and a complete program overhaul was completed. Two years later they had like 9 wins. Gtown could have whatever type of program they wanted. Its not that hard as long as: 1) You actually have an Athletic Director (that's pretty obvious) 2) Board members who, if nothing else, want their school to athletically/academically represent itself respectively. 3) Honest communication vs. confused bureaucracy Then, with some actual direction and real communication, Gtown could hire a coach and overhaul the program. College football is not "The Secret". Georgetown is not separated from 0-11 and 8-3 by dint of its desire to win. There are numerous schools who spend more money than Georgetown who still aren't consistent winners. Georgetown can almost certainly do more to improve its chances, but every other school in Division I is trying to do the same thing.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 20, 2009 10:35:34 GMT -5
Money isn't always the driver: Fordham spent $4.7 million on football in the last fiscal year and has two PL wins in the last two seasons.
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Post by hoyaparents on Nov 20, 2009 11:13:07 GMT -5
DFW HOYA, you're right, its not all about money. We need to make a commitment to be successful. It is not going to happen all by itself.
As hoya3 pointed out, Fordham made a commitment for change, and now they have backed it with financial resources. Time will tell if they are successful, but at least they are making the effort.
If the alums and administration at GU want to have some success on the gridiron, its time to make a commitment, set goals, chart a course, and execute.
The status quo is unacceptable.
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Post by strummer8526 on Nov 20, 2009 12:38:20 GMT -5
Money isn't always the driver: Fordham spent $4.7 million on football in the last fiscal year and has two PL wins in the last two seasons. Are both those wins against us? One vs. Georgetown, one vs. Bucknell.--Admin
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Post by 98hoya on Nov 20, 2009 16:44:12 GMT -5
DFW HOYA, you're right, its not all about money. We need to make a commitment to be successful. It is not going to happen all by itself. As hoya3 pointed out, Fordham made a commitment for change, and now they have backed it with financial resources. Time will tell if they are successful, but at least they are making the effort. If the alums and administration at GU want to have some success on the gridiron, its time to make a commitment, set goals, chart a course, and execute. The status quo is unacceptable. Come on, man...of there's anything that's status quo around here, it's about demanding that everyone make a commitment, set goals, chart a course and execute...without saying what any of those things mean or suggesting how it can be done in feasible terms. What would actually be a break from the status quo would be if anyone actually DID any of those things, whatever it is they entail, instead of just throwing out buzzwords and demanding everyone somehow do them.
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Post by gwhiz on Nov 20, 2009 16:56:40 GMT -5
Money isn't always the driver: Fordham spent $4.7 million on football in the last fiscal year and has two PL wins in the last two seasons. I would not expect a significant change in the result just 1 year after throwing money at the problem. Fordham apparently fixed the program's foundation, infrastructure, and mindset. Now, they move to phase 2, where the on field performance will be expected to improve year to year. Pretty straightforward. And while GU might balk at increasing football spend to Fordham levels, they do need to throw money at this problem. If you want to go cheap for the next coach and staff, then do not expect change within the next 5 years.
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Post by gwhiz on Nov 20, 2009 17:02:30 GMT -5
DFW HOYA, you're right, its not all about money. We need to make a commitment to be successful. It is not going to happen all by itself. As hoya3 pointed out, Fordham made a commitment for change, and now they have backed it with financial resources. Time will tell if they are successful, but at least they are making the effort. If the alums and administration at GU want to have some success on the gridiron, its time to make a commitment, set goals, chart a course, and execute. The status quo is unacceptable. Come on, man...of there's anything that's status quo around here, it's about demanding that everyone make a commitment, set goals, chart a course and execute...without saying what any of those things mean or suggesting how it can be done in feasible terms. What would actually be a break from the status quo would be if anyone actually DID any of those things, whatever it is they entail, instead of just throwing out buzzwords and demanding everyone somehow do them. Jesus H, that record keeps skipping.
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Post by 98hoya on Nov 20, 2009 17:09:01 GMT -5
Come on, man...of there's anything that's status quo around here, it's about demanding that everyone make a commitment, set goals, chart a course and execute...without saying what any of those things mean or suggesting how it can be done in feasible terms. What would actually be a break from the status quo would be if anyone actually DID any of those things, whatever it is they entail, instead of just throwing out buzzwords and demanding everyone somehow do them. Jesus H, that record keeps skipping. GWhiz, it keeps skipping because people keep repeating the same foolishness about the need to "commit." What's that mean? How? What - create a new organization? First, we both know that's unlikely to happen, second, there's been no suggestion of how it'll do anything better than the first. Continually shouting "fix it" doesn't fix a problem. Get it?
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Post by jkhoya12 on Nov 20, 2009 23:17:55 GMT -5
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hsaxa2010
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Post by hsaxa2010 on Nov 21, 2009 3:03:33 GMT -5
Bringing this back to the title of the thread, good luck to the football players today, especially the Seniors. They may not have had the best, or even a good, overall record, but they're still Hoyas and they represented the school for 4 years. Thank you for the hard work put in during those many practices early in the morning when the rest of campus was still asleep and thank you for showing class during each game. I'll be there to send my thanks to this Senior class and hope other students can get there for a half, or even just the Senior introductions, to show support for our fellow classmates
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rosslynhoya
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Post by rosslynhoya on Nov 21, 2009 11:51:40 GMT -5
GWhiz, it keeps skipping because people keep repeating the same foolishness about the need to "commit." What's that mean? How? What - create a new organization? First, we both know that's unlikely to happen, second, there's been no suggestion of how it'll do anything better than the first. Continually shouting "fix it" doesn't fix a problem. Get it? Georgetown football is our version of the crisis in Darfur. First, we need to "build awareness" and then "resolve to do something" and "take action to make our voices heard" and, wait, screw it all, let's just blame the administration (or preferably the previous administration, since Porterfield is the AD of hope and change that everyone loves, you really can't expect him to fix everything because he's so new and inherited such a mess).
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Post by 98hoya on Nov 21, 2009 13:05:32 GMT -5
GWhiz, it keeps skipping because people keep repeating the same foolishness about the need to "commit." What's that mean? How? What - create a new organization? First, we both know that's unlikely to happen, second, there's been no suggestion of how it'll do anything better than the first. Continually shouting "fix it" doesn't fix a problem. Get it? Georgetown football is our version of the crisis in Darfur. First, we need to "build awareness" and then "resolve to do something" and "take action to make our voices heard" and, wait, screw it all, let's just blame the administration (or preferably the previous administration, since Porterfield is the AD of hope and change that everyone loves, you really can't expect him to fix everything because he's so new and inherited such a mess). Good one, Rosslyn. I always think of the collective wisdom about how to fix our program like the suggested fixes to problems of racial inequality: give it more money; get more fathers involved; care more! In any event, I can't make it today, but here's to the seniors. Give'm hell, boys.
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Post by Admin on Nov 21, 2009 13:06:50 GMT -5
Hoyas open with a personal foul on its own kickoff, go three and out.
Fordham sets up at midfield.
One play, TD 7-0 13:48 1st.
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Post by Admin on Nov 21, 2009 13:18:15 GMT -5
Hoyas three and out, Fordham fumbles the punt at its 15.
Georgetown can't miss on this, right?
WRONG! A penalty inside the two and a missed 21 yard FG.
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Post by gtowndad on Nov 21, 2009 13:19:50 GMT -5
Is anyone else having a problem with Channelsurfing.net?
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Post by Admin on Nov 21, 2009 13:20:51 GMT -5
Not working, it might appear later.
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Post by 98hoya on Nov 21, 2009 13:21:16 GMT -5
Not sure I wanna watch, but Admin - are you able to get the All Access video feed?
Gtowndad, I struck out with the channelsurfing.net feed too.
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Post by Admin on Nov 21, 2009 13:23:11 GMT -5
I'm listening to WGTB and WFUV (about 5 sec. apart)
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Post by gtowndad on Nov 21, 2009 13:23:32 GMT -5
Thanks.
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Post by Admin on Nov 21, 2009 13:24:51 GMT -5
Video is back on.
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