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Post by HoyaLawya on Sept 28, 2009 17:40:48 GMT -5
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Post by Boz on Sept 28, 2009 18:59:30 GMT -5
I have sympathy for the victim, of course, but does her opinion really matter in this....um, matter?
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Post by theexorcist on Sept 28, 2009 19:01:45 GMT -5
Anyone who had sex with a 13-year old, especially if there was a thirty-year age difference, would be rotting in prison no matter what the victim said.
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Post by Bando on Sept 28, 2009 21:53:07 GMT -5
It's not at all shocking that the victim has come to terms with the rape and put it behind her. But Boz is right, her opinion matters very little any more. It's the city of Los Angeles (or California) vs. Roman Polanski, not her vs. him.
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Post by theexorcist on Sept 29, 2009 6:58:01 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 29, 2009 8:04:47 GMT -5
While it is true that the President has no pardon power over state criminal offenses, it doesn't mean, hypotheticallly, that he could not order a DOJ lawyer to make the views of the United States known in any court proceeding in the nation: 28 US.C. 517 states:
"The Solicitor General, or any officer of the Department of Justice, may be sent by the Attorney General to any State or district in the United States to attend to the interests of the United States in a suit pending in a court of the United States, or in a court of a State, or to attend to any other interest of the United States."
As a DOJ lawyer, I have been sent into a state court to "attend to the any other interest of the United States" even no jurisdiction would have existed in federal court (no removal under 28 U.S.C. 1446). It will not happen here since I can't imagine there is any interest of the United States in these circumstances, but one can hypothesize of such circumstances where a state prosecution or state proceeding, for example, may impinge upon a foreign policy interest of the United States.
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Post by strummer8526 on Sept 29, 2009 8:24:44 GMT -5
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Post by kchoya on Sept 29, 2009 10:13:44 GMT -5
While it is true that the President has no pardon power over state criminal offenses, it doesn't mean, hypotheticallly, that he could not order a DOJ lawyer to make the views of the United States known in any court proceeding in the nation: 28 US.C. 517 states: "The Solicitor General, or any officer of the Department of Justice, may be sent by the Attorney General to any State or district in the United States to attend to the interests of the United States in a suit pending in a court of the United States, or in a court of a State, or to attend to any other interest of the United States." As a DOJ lawyer, I have been sent into a state court to "attend to the any other interest of the United States" even no jurisdiction would have existed in federal court (no removal under 28 U.S.C. 1446). It will not happen here since I can't imagine there is any interest of the United States in these circumstances, but one can hypothesize of such circumstances where a state prosecution or state proceeding, for example, may impinge upon a foreign policy interest of the United States. My guess is, when certain people say they're going to ask Obama to put an end to this, they hope he'd exert some political influence on the California politicians to stop pursuing the matter.
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Post by kchoya on Sept 29, 2009 10:14:49 GMT -5
France's extradition trial with the US didn't cover the crime in question. I thought it was that the agreement between France and the US allows France to refuse to extradite its own citizens. ;D
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Sept 29, 2009 21:38:48 GMT -5
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Post by vcjack on Sept 30, 2009 8:53:48 GMT -5
My big fear is that some jackass IOC official uses this as an excuse to screw over Chicago this weekend
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Post by rosslynhoya on Sept 30, 2009 12:59:47 GMT -5
In a completely and totally unrelated development, the Polish government is adopting new legislation that will impose mandatory castration for any male convicted of statuatory rape of a minor under the age of 15. uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE58R21820090928There's no indication whether they've included an automatic exemption for the really cool pedophiles.
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Post by TC on Sept 30, 2009 13:30:08 GMT -5
My big fear is that some clown IOC official uses this as an excuse to screw over Chicago this weekend Don't worry, Fox News and Matt Drudge are trying to blow the Olympic bid before it gets to that stage.
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Post by Elvado on Sept 30, 2009 14:03:06 GMT -5
My big fear is that some clown IOC official uses this as an excuse to screw over Chicago this weekend Don't worry, Fox News and Matt Drudge are trying to blow the Olympic bid before it gets to that stage. What in the name of Valerie Jarrett are you talking about?
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Post by TC on Sept 30, 2009 14:44:54 GMT -5
I mean they seem to be actively rooting against Chicago getting the bid.
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Post by kchoya on Sept 30, 2009 15:00:14 GMT -5
I mean they seem to be actively rooting against Chicago getting the bid. You're a broken record on Drudge, you should come up with a new shtick. Also, posting links regarding polling that shows perhaps as many as 45% of Chicagoans (?) are against the city getting the games is not "rooting" against the bid.
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Post by kchoya on Sept 30, 2009 15:03:24 GMT -5
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Post by rosslynhoya on Sept 30, 2009 15:06:24 GMT -5
I mean they seem to be actively rooting against Chicago getting the bid. Tony Blair was roundly criticized for debasing the office of the PM to get London the 2012 Olympics, and there's plenty of data to suggest that hosting the Olympics (Summer Games, at least) is an economic calamity for the otherwise lucky city. It's Nats Park times a thousand. Good solid non-partisan reasons abound for not hosting the Games. Everything in life is NOT political.
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Post by TC on Sept 30, 2009 15:26:38 GMT -5
You're a broken record on Drudge, you should come up with a new shtick. Also, posting links regarding polling that shows perhaps as many as 45% of Chicagoans (?) are against the city getting the games is not "rooting" against the bid. No, but framing the Derrion Albert murder in terms of the Olympic Bid sure seems like it.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Sept 30, 2009 15:51:49 GMT -5
whoopi goldberg should be euthanized.
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