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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 28, 2009 22:17:29 GMT -5
I don't think Macklin makes a big difference. Greg needs to have a big season. ^^This. No team should be taken for granted in this battle but Rick Barnes' recent history of being able to use the facilities of Texas to get kids he and his program should never have gotten is the competition that worries me most. Stil I too was happy to see the exclusion of Villanova. I expected Kentucky not to be there just based upon recent comments and news of the past month. MCI, the quality of UT facilities is hard to even appreciate. The second floor of the main student gym is easily nicer than McDonough.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Nov 28, 2009 23:49:11 GMT -5
Wedge at Yates raves about UT's facilities.
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Post by RDF on Nov 29, 2009 2:25:25 GMT -5
Macklin's skill set is same as it was at Georgetown--where he actually developed some offensive back to basket moves/improved his footwork. Macklin never had those baby hooks in his game in HS/AAU circuit and he did at Georgetown. If Macklin stayed at Georgetown--his numbers would be exactly the same right now as they are at Florida considering his role and playing time would've increased.
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Post by cnyhoya on Nov 29, 2009 9:35:22 GMT -5
regarding bigs, hoyaboya, we have more proof than anyone in the country. anyone...vernon's season will have no impact on his decision...we have three hall of fame bigs and bigs that are currently starters in the league Actually im not sure that the success of Deke/Mourning/Ewing make that much of a difference simply because what they did was with a different coach, in a different system, in a different era. I wish it werent like that, but that is the truth of the matter. Anyway, just thinking out loud. Agreed. Not sure the old-timers matter too much. JTIII will want to build his own track record with bigs. This would be a HUGE get!
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Post by tashoya on Nov 29, 2009 12:11:46 GMT -5
I'm clueless as to how recruiting goes other than in a very general sense but is part of JT3's strategy meeting with kids and saying.... "Georgetown University. Yes. The one in Washington, DC. Uh huh, the one that Patrick Ewing and Dikembe and Zo went to. Have you seen Roy Hibbert play lately? Ever heard of Jeff Green?"
Sold.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 30, 2009 11:28:54 GMT -5
Also, in keeping with the Run DMC theme, this way we could have Christmas and Hollis which is even better than Christmas in Hollis.
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Post by SirSaxa on Nov 30, 2009 14:18:20 GMT -5
Also, in keeping with the Run DMC theme, this way we could have Christmas and Hollis which is even better than Christmas in Hollis. Not bad Tas... referencing a golden oldie Holiday fave. Can't believe that tune is 20 years old (or more) already.
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Post by idhoya on Nov 30, 2009 15:01:04 GMT -5
I was listening to that and Christmas Rap by Kurtis Blow. Ahh, the early 80's.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 30, 2009 15:43:33 GMT -5
I can't believe it either. Still great stuff. idhoya pulling out the Kurtis Blow.... I think I have some of his stuff on vinyl still. I must be getting old.
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Post by Filo on Nov 30, 2009 19:20:15 GMT -5
I hadn't seen anything confirming SirSaxa's list but the Jeff Goodman link about Yarou includes the same 5 teams ("One of the elite big men in the Class of 2011, Rakeem Christmas, has cut his list to Florida, Georgetown, Oklahoma, Texas and Florida International.")
Awesome Run DMC references to Christmas and Hollis. The Hoyas need to go after a kid named Collard (we of course, have the Greens locked up).
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Post by SirSaxa on Nov 30, 2009 21:34:54 GMT -5
Awesome Run DMC references to Christmas and Hollis. The Hoyas need to go after a kid named Collard (we of course, have the Greens locked up). Good point filo, and we can leave it to Duke to cover the Queens!
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Post by tashoya on Dec 1, 2009 0:46:33 GMT -5
Why do I want some chicken and waffles right now? At the least some bbq. Kansas City or Texas? Man I love me some greens. The food type and the Hoya/OKC type though not necessarily in that order.
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Post by Giannicolus Jones on Dec 1, 2009 16:12:39 GMT -5
I got a press released email to me re: Christmas's list being narrowed to five if that's enough confirmation for you:
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 1, 2009 16:44:56 GMT -5
The five universities that are still being considered for Christmas’ attendance in 2011 include: Florida International University, University of Florida, Georgetown University, University of Oklahoma University of Texas.
OK, so does that list look like the usual GU recruit list? Seems to me one school totally stands out from all the others. No, I didn't mean Fl. Int. I meant stands out in a good way.
GU is far and away the classiest University and program on the list. Just based on the list, I'd say we have a good shot.
Is Christmas from Jamaica? Will Pat Sr. be on campus when he visits? Can Jeff Green's mom and dad be there to talk to the auntie?
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Dec 1, 2009 16:50:27 GMT -5
Roy's Mom is also from Haiti, I think, or another Caribbean island (maybe Jamaica). She could be a good reference for us too.
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Post by guru on Dec 1, 2009 16:53:04 GMT -5
The five universities that are still being considered for Christmas’ attendance in 2011 include: Florida International University, University of Florida, Georgetown University, University of Oklahoma University of Texas.OK, so does that list look like the usual GU recruit list? Seems to me one school totally stands out from all the others. No, I didn't mean Fl. Int. I meant stands out in a good way. GU is far and away the classiest University and program on the list. Just based on the list, I'd say we have a good shot. Is Christmas from Jamaica? Will Pat Sr. be on campus when he visits? Can Jeff Green's mom and dad be there to talk to the auntie? That list does look very favorable to GU, especially since it's closest to his home. But recruiting is impossible to predict, and those are all (with the exception of FIU) solid programs, so this will still be a tough get.
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Post by Oh My! on Dec 1, 2009 17:06:09 GMT -5
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That list does look very favorable to GU, especially since it's closest to his home.
But recruiting is impossible to predict, and those are all (with the exception of FIU) solid programs, so this will still be a tough get.[/quote]
But FIU does have an NBA Champion Head Coach, which appeals to thousands of HS prospects, regardless of said coach's tenure or history as a coach.
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 1, 2009 20:31:42 GMT -5
The five universities that are still being considered for Christmas’ attendance in 2011 include: Florida International University, University of Florida, Georgetown University, University of Oklahoma University of Texas.OK, so does that list look like the usual GU recruit list? Seems to me one school totally stands out from all the others. No, I didn't mean Fl. Int. I meant stands out in a good way. GU is far and away the classiest University and program on the list. Just based on the list, I'd say we have a good shot. Is Christmas from Jamaica? Will Pat Sr. be on campus when he visits? Can Jeff Green's mom and dad be there to talk to the auntie? And I hear hifi acomin' to defend his institushun of hier larnin'. More seriously, a recent back to back national champion is certainly major competition, as is Texas with its primo facilities.
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 1, 2009 22:06:26 GMT -5
The five universities that are still being considered for Christmas’ attendance in 2011 include: Florida International University, University of Florida, Georgetown University, University of Oklahoma University of Texas.OK, so does that list look like the usual GU recruit list? Seems to me one school totally stands out from all the others. No, I didn't mean Fl. Int. I meant stands out in a good way. GU is far and away the classiest University and program on the list. Just based on the list, I'd say we have a good shot. Is Christmas from Jamaica? Will Pat Sr. be on campus when he visits? Can Jeff Green's mom and dad be there to talk to the auntie? And I hear hifi acomin' to defend his institushun of hier larnin'. More seriously, a recent back to back national champion is certainly major competition, as is Texas with its primo facilities. Hoyarooter, as far as "basketball programs" are concerned, you are 100% correct. I was referring to the total University package.. hoops AND academics, and a great location. Duke, Stanford, Vandy, UNC, UVA, those kinds of schools would be serious competition on the total package" I was thinking of. I believe his auntie has been quoted as including academics in their evaluation.
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Post by hoyasexy on Dec 1, 2009 22:49:30 GMT -5
I think we all have to realize that when one person says that academics are important, it doesn't always mean the same thing to everyone else. It could mean that the aunt is looking for a program where academics are valued, or she could be looking for a specific type of curriculum. Point is, she may not be talking about US N&WR rankings or any other measure of academic prestige (although I wouldn't be surprised if Texas is competitive in that area as well, but I haven't looked in a really long time).
Given that he has identified his top five, according to whatever criteria he is using, it would be difficult for us, based solely on our own valuation of those five and using our own criteria, to determine how they might shake out.
I'd say our chances are about 1 in 5.
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