Bando
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I've got some regrets!
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Post by Bando on Jul 27, 2009 2:09:09 GMT -5
So following a link in this thread, I discovered the HoyaBalla message board. It seems to be an alternative Hoya hoops message board, with only a small number of posters. Harmless enough, or so I thought. Let me bring your attention to their welcome thread, in which "balla" gives the middle finger to a number of HoyaTalk posters by name and invites other users to take a crap on current HoyaTalk users (which they certainly do). This is frankly juvenile and atrocious online behavior. I certainly disagree with people quite a bit here, but calling them out on another message board is reprehensible. But that's not all. While balla thinks that HoyaTalk has "jumped the shark", he and his comrade alleninxis are shamelessly trying to drive traffic to their new venture by link-whoring on HoyaTalk. And if you take a look at HoyaBalla's forum rules, you'll see that they're copied verbatim from HoyaTalk's. I would advise the mods to delete all outgoing links to HoyaBalla and ban the users responsible. I would also advise all users who are currently posting at both sites to take a word from Uncle Joey and Cut. It. Out. I see no reason to help establish a competing site that trashes on HoyaTalk members.
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Post by schiavoed on Jul 27, 2009 4:06:40 GMT -5
oh no another message board!!!!!! i wouldn't call linking to their interview with Stepka "link whoring"; im sure many here didn't know who he was and were happy to get more info. and as for the forum rules? who cares. calling out posters here is certainly trite, but whining about such internet hostility seems even more so. grow up.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jul 27, 2009 5:29:38 GMT -5
I, for one, am shocked that people are behaving immaturely on the internet.
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alleninxis
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Post by alleninxis on Jul 27, 2009 6:22:56 GMT -5
we didn't have to post the links to the stepka news, johnson or walker interviews. which of course are free.
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lichoya68
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OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
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Post by lichoya68 on Jul 27, 2009 7:35:55 GMT -5
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Cambridge
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Canes Pugnaces
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Post by Cambridge on Jul 27, 2009 8:36:44 GMT -5
Are you seriously calling for a civil war? Against another message board? They have some talented posters over there and they are talking about hoya hoops. Having more than one forum isn't a bad thing, it's a good thing.
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hoopsmccan
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Post by hoopsmccan on Jul 27, 2009 8:55:23 GMT -5
Seriously, I think I took the worst shot (for a periodic poster who isn't really involved with the recruiting slap fights, I'm not sure why) and I don't think people should be banned or links deleted.
It is the internet, if they want their own Edited over there, let them have it.
hm
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Jul 27, 2009 8:56:02 GMT -5
Seriously, I think I took the worst shot (for a periodic poster who isn't really involved with the recruiting slap fights, I'm not sure why) and I don't think people should be banned or links deleted. It is the internet, if they want their own Edited over there, let them have it. hm Yeah, that was definitely not cool, hm.
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lichoya68
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OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
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Post by lichoya68 on Jul 27, 2009 9:50:16 GMT -5
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Jul 27, 2009 9:53:35 GMT -5
Agree generally with Lic. I can't find fault with the stated goal of the site, which is to eliminate the "sky is falling" mentality that can pervade Hoyatalk from time to time. Their approach, however, is a little juvenile, but I see no reason to do anything other than let that speak for itself.
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Jul 27, 2009 11:09:58 GMT -5
I laughed at seeing myself on the hate list or whatever you want to call it. I guess people aren’t supposed to express opinions on recruits, but just say “sounds like a great kid, thanks so much for the info balla/graeagle/deals!” It’s standard internet warrior stuff anyway-- 0% chance any of them would say that to my face. Gotta love the absurdity of posting board rules that include no profanity, no masked profanity and no personal attacks, and then using the pinned welcome thread to curse off a long list of individuals including taking a (really, really messed up) swipe at somebody’s kid. Just lovely. It’s a shame too because they do have some good info/reports on prospects/recruits but their ridiculous and belligerent attitudes just ruin it. Seriously--not to sound too Mike Gundy here--but if somebody wants to trash talk me on the internet that’s one thing (even if it’s stupid/unprovoked/undeserved), but the comment about hoopsmccan’s child was waaaaaaaaaaay over the line and tells you all you need to know about the type of people you’re dealing with. And yea, frankly I’d question anybody who tries to be buddy-buddy with that kind of a person just to get a scouting report of some 16 year olds’ jump shot. But to each his own, and if they all wanna hang out over there, tell each other how great they are and overuse the emoticon, more power to them.
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hifigator
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Post by hifigator on Jul 27, 2009 11:43:42 GMT -5
I didn't even make the list. Sob ... sob.... my feelings are so hurt.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Jul 27, 2009 11:45:29 GMT -5
yawn. stop being such a bunch of sensitive marys.
on edit: the attack on boz was the most shocking to me actually. boz is clearly a conservative, but i've never witnessed anything but constructive and thought-provoking discourse in those political battles.
political leanings aside, boz is the opposite of controversial...which leads me to conclude that balla et al were attacking him for his beliefs which is just laaaaaame.
but as i said above, yaaaaaawn.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Jul 27, 2009 11:56:14 GMT -5
Hey, COOL! People hate me. (Well, one person at least.)
Nice.
Ironically, I don't think I have ever had a basketball-related disagreement with the person who hates me, which makes it even all the more hilarious. I'd go post over there just to tick him off, but it's really not worth the effort.
I think the admins frown on cross-promotion anyway, so that won't require any new rules. We should, however, schedule some sort of water balloon fight at some point between the various boards to establish Hoya fan site supremacy.
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hoyatables
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Post by hoyatables on Jul 27, 2009 12:15:18 GMT -5
I didn't even make the list. Sob ... sob.... my feelings are so hurt. Hifi, not to worry, you were tacked on later.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Jul 27, 2009 12:37:13 GMT -5
I didn't even make the list. Sob ... sob.... my feelings are so hurt. Hifi, not to worry, you were tacked on later. That's right. I cannot tell a lie; I did it. ;D ;D ;D As for the name calling, yes, it's silly, and I have no idea why some of the people were called out. But it is a free country (and internet), and balla et al provide valuable information, so I see nothing wrong with balla starting his own board and have no compunction about frequenting both boards. And allen has posted a few of his interviews from the other site on this board, so it isn't like information is being completely held back.
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CAHoya07
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Post by CAHoya07 on Jul 27, 2009 12:38:48 GMT -5
Who. Really. Cares.
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Dhall
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Post by Dhall on Jul 27, 2009 13:18:31 GMT -5
I have no idea why I made "the list" either, but the funny part is that I get the last laugh thanks to the anonymous nature of these websites. I signed up under a different name (maybe even under the same name someone else uses on this board, balla!)and he approved me as a "member".
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tjm62
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Post by tjm62 on Jul 27, 2009 13:24:28 GMT -5
So who do I have to insult to get a (negative) shout out around here???
<3 Hoyatalk
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PopeJohn2
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Post by PopeJohn2 on Jul 27, 2009 14:11:45 GMT -5
bunch of facists.
go ahead and attack an individual player or a persons kid but dont you dare say anything remotely non-positive about the recruiting or the program.
makes me want to make a donation to hoyatalk. where do i send the check?
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