The Stig
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Post by The Stig on Jul 3, 2009 15:35:13 GMT -5
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jul 4, 2009 11:14:01 GMT -5
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jul 4, 2009 13:32:17 GMT -5
I propose we take her at her word at this time. If something else pops up as to a reason for her resignation, then let that be supported by evidence rather than "an unverified rumor".
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Post by strummer8526 on Jul 4, 2009 22:04:23 GMT -5
Palin political career = over.
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Post by TC on Jul 4, 2009 22:38:32 GMT -5
Ed, if we take her at "her word" (i.e. the speech she gave), she is stepping down because of ethics inquiries and because she wants to run for President.
So basically, she's stepping down because ethics inquiries have taken up too much time and money.
The one thing about this that really mystifies me is how focused she is on one blogger from Alaska that no one's ever heard of. She called her out for a photoshop job last week, and now she's sending out letters from her lawyer against them. Even if what this blogger is saying is true - or woefully inaccurate - it's a freaking blog (and one with not much traffic) and you are governor of Alaska. Get a grip.
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Post by The Stig on Jul 4, 2009 23:37:12 GMT -5
The one thing about this that really mystifies me is how focused she is on one blogger from Alaska that no one's ever heard of. She called her out for a photoshop job last week, and now she's sending out letters from her lawyer against them. Even if what this blogger is saying is true - or woefully inaccurate - it's a freaking blog (and one with not much traffic) and you are governor of Alaska. Get a grip. From what my family members in Alaska say, that sounds pretty typical of her. She's INCREDIBLY vindictive and does not tolerate dissent. One of my family members needs a state license to operate, and they're afraid to publicly criticize Palin because they fear that she or one of her minions will take away their license in response.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jul 5, 2009 0:48:22 GMT -5
FWIW, the FBI's spokesman in AK has denied that Palin is facing indictment, among other things: www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-palin5-2009jul05,0,7018263.story I had a few initial reactions to her event on Friday, and chief among them were the following: 1. The loud, off-putting background of quacks and loons was unintentionally funny if not prescient. 2. Mark Sanford is more of a survivor than Sarah Palin.
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Post by EasyEd on Jul 5, 2009 7:32:41 GMT -5
apnews.myway.com/article/20090705/D9988SCG0.htmlSounds to me like she is fed up with the ethics charges that have cost her about $500,000 of he own money. She is not a well-to-do person so this is huge to her. She is also fed up with the ridicule she and her family have undergone on a continuous basis. And, she wants to become more engaged in national affairs in a manner she has not spelled out.
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Post by TC on Jul 5, 2009 12:04:17 GMT -5
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jul 5, 2009 12:20:32 GMT -5
Or, if Palin was not raising money for her legal defense under the guise of "continu[ing] the job she was elected to do without all these petty distractions." (Source: Josh Marshall) www.thealaskafundtrust.com/about/
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Post by EasyEd on Jul 5, 2009 12:44:29 GMT -5
Bravo. It's about time people who make false accusations of illegal or criminal behavior be held accountable for what they say or publish.
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Post by strummer8526 on Jul 5, 2009 16:22:02 GMT -5
This woman will never be elected to any office ever again. Let's lock this thing up and say "Goodbye" to the year-long joke that was Sarah Palin. She's done.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jul 5, 2009 17:45:57 GMT -5
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Post by EasyEd on Jul 5, 2009 18:42:02 GMT -5
The New York Times article is just the type of snobbish stuff we've heard ever since Sarah Palin appeared on the scene. The press wants to mock her and to destroy her. The question is why? For some reason they appear to be scared of her so they must ridicule her every chance they get. This Times article even sunk to a new low with "Perhaps there is some new and interesting scandal that Palin has yet to let us in on. (If so, I hope it involves a soul mate.)". I, for one, would rather listen to someone who speaks from the heart than someone who speaks from a teleprompter or who stacks questioners at a "town hall" meeting with planted supporters. Anyone who dismisses Sarah Palin will be sorely disappointed. She shares the values of conservatives in this country, is very charismatic and has legions of supporters. She will be a voice for conservatives and for Republicans in the future whether she runs for office in the future or not.
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Post by strummer8526 on Jul 5, 2009 19:13:42 GMT -5
I, for one, would rather listen to someone who speaks from the heart than someone who speaks from a teleprompter or who stacks questioners at a "town hall" meeting with planted supporters. I would too, as long as that person's "heart" is not laughably ignorant and happily so. Anyone who dismisses Sarah Palin will be sorely disappointed. She shares the values of conservatives in this country, is very charismatic and has legions of supporters. She will be a voice for conservatives and for Republicans in the future whether she runs for office in the future or not. No she's not, and no she won't.
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Post by hoya95 on Jul 5, 2009 19:37:52 GMT -5
She reminds me so much of Jessie Ventura. Great TV presence at the beginning of a fast rise, but they had no ability to last on the big stage. She may have limited appeal to the 20% of the population that would never vote democratic anyway, but that's about it. Her speech was an absolute trainwreck: self-indulgent, thin-skinned, rambling and almost completely without a point. (Why is she resigning? What exactly is she doing now? Did she really mean to say that all the other lame-duck governors are basically stealing from their states? WTF?) At some point, you have to show command of the issues, a vision for how your policies will help, and the ability to convince 51% of the population that you can lead. Unless she turns into a completely different person, that's not happening.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Jul 5, 2009 20:15:50 GMT -5
My guess is she started in media and will end up there. And honestly, she should do that. So hopefully she'll mosey on over to some part of the dial or cable listings for people who like her stance on the issues.
Politics? She's out. Will make a token run for president but has zero chance at the nomination. She'll have a solid following though and sell a lot of books.
If she really does that, it's a great move for her. She gets filleted in the press daily more than any other former, losing VP candidate I've ever seen. So if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
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Post by mchoya on Jul 5, 2009 20:32:31 GMT -5
Anyone who dismisses Sarah Palin will be sorely disappointed. She shares the values of conservatives in this country, is very charismatic and has legions of supporters. She will be a voice for conservatives and for Republicans in the future whether she runs for office in the future or not. No she's not, and no she won't. As a Republican and a conservative, I can only hope that strummer is correct.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jul 5, 2009 20:35:33 GMT -5
I love the interesting contrast of Ed both criticizing people for attacking every little thing about Sarah Palin and then making a ridiculously stupid swipe at President Obama using a teleprompter.
Here's my opinion on Palin: she's a quitter. People elected her and she doesn't like that everything isn't going exactly her way, so she's giving up. She's giving some lame excuse about better serving Alaska, but we all know she could do that in two years.
Contrast that to fellow Republican Schwarzenegger in California. The guy has repeatedly tried to change things internally, and sometimes he's right and sometimes he's wrong, and sometimes he wins and sometimes he loses, but he doesn't give up.
You finish what you start.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Jul 5, 2009 20:41:28 GMT -5
I, for one, would rather listen to someone who speaks from the heart than someone who speaks from a teleprompter Me too. I hate the kind of people that can't pronounce the word 'nuclear,' so that it has to be spelled phonetically for them on a teleprompter. The one "great speech" Sarah Palin made was with teleprompter assistance. Please direct us to any speech or any written work produced before or after the 2008 RNC convention in which Palin does not sound like one of the above: a) a shameless self-promoter; b) a politician who is uninformed on important issues; or c) someone who thinks the "opposition" is out to get her. Regardless of what you think of Gail Collins or the NYT, Palin made some disturbing comments in her resignation speech. The most disturbing, to me, is declaring "we've won!" in response to valid ethics complaints. BTW, I didn't notice it above, so here's the full text and video of the speech: www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/03/sarah-palin-resignation-s_n_225557.htmlON EDIT: Oh yeah, there was also this reference: " TWO huge U.S. Supreme Court reversals came down against that liberal Ninth Circuit, deciding in OUR state's favor over the last two weeks. We're protectors of our Constitution - federalists protect states' rights as mandated in 10th amendment." One of those reversals was that incarcerated persons have no constitutional right to DNA tests that might exonerate them. It was the right decision, IMO, but nothing to be proud of -- the appellant was forced to argue for a Constitutional right because Alaska is one of the few idiot states left without statutes allowing the retesting of evidence with a better test.
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