usafahoya
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Post by usafahoya on Nov 30, 2008 18:29:18 GMT -5
Nevermind that is he was overrated as a player I can not stand his hating even more. He is quickly moving up on my list of least favorite ESPN Heads
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Nov 30, 2008 18:33:41 GMT -5
I don't understand how difficult it is for an analyst who is paid to comment on a game to watch the EXPLETIVE game. This is the 2nd game in a row he's "wondered why Georgetown doesn't use Summers/Monroe inside more" and 1 of them has been in foul trouble in both instances--and had limited playing time. Is that hard to understand? I get his premise--which is just use superior talent to win a game--and he's right as any good basketball offense is played inside/out--but if your staple offense is not going to be used now-when do guys get experience using it? Forget about Jason "Jay" Williams challenging Davis either--that will NEVER happen.
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russodj
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Post by russodj on Nov 30, 2008 18:48:40 GMT -5
I agree that those guys are terrible but I really like Fran Fraschilla. He knows a good amount about Georgetown, the DC area, and is more knowledgeable about basketball than the other commentators.
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Post by arlingtonhoya05 on Nov 30, 2008 18:51:38 GMT -5
Len Elmore is also hilarious, referring to the status of the programs "Georgetown may have a bit of an edge right now." Really Len, a bit of an edge...yea, and the current Lakers have a bit of an edge over the current wizards.
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Hoyaholic
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Post by Hoyaholic on Nov 30, 2008 18:53:04 GMT -5
Actually, at the half of the WSU game I thought he gave one of the the best analyses of the Hoyas that I have heard. Sounded like he had actually been paying attention. No hate for Hubert (the announcer) here.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 30, 2008 19:37:22 GMT -5
Wow i agreed on his idiotic comments about how we should change what we're doing. yeah lets go away from what has us up 18pts. ( halftime) Even now after saying he thinks we could win the National championship he still thinks we're not doing it right.
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Post by BurleithBeast on Nov 30, 2008 19:37:26 GMT -5
Hubie now slurping the Hoyas, Monroe---calls us national title contender
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Post by williambraskyiii on Nov 30, 2008 19:35:56 GMT -5
jay williams is a dolt - he lost some brain cells when he wrapped himself around a telephone pole.
hubert just gave us major love even though he is fairly clueless - gtown has enough talent to win the big east, go to the final 4 and win a NC.
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Nov 30, 2008 19:40:17 GMT -5
hubert just said we could win it all
he just like alot of other talking heads that wants to see more out of our post players...no new news there
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dikembe
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Post by dikembe on Nov 30, 2008 19:37:56 GMT -5
yup hube just said we have the talent to win it all. cant hate dat lol
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dailey247
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Post by dailey247 on Nov 30, 2008 19:43:43 GMT -5
I'm not going to defend Hubie in general, and even in this one particular case I don't think he's articulating his point perfectly. However, I do think he has a point, which I would phrase like this: Georgetown should make it a point of emphasis, in the natural flow of the offense, to occasionally (lets say 2-3 times per half) give the ball to Monroe in the post with the express purpose of him taking a shot. This is a good idea for three reasons. 1) These are high percentage shots. 2) Monroe is our most talented player, and we should look to exploit that. 3) Successfully doing this will cause defenses to collapse quickly when the ball goes into the post, opening up the other 4 players for easy looks. This does not mean we should turn into Notre Dame and have most of our possessions eaten up by one player in the paint. Run the entire offense, but make sure that we run this part of it.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Nov 30, 2008 20:25:26 GMT -5
THINK COACH KNOWS WHAT HES DOING.. THINK WE WILL BE FINE ADN WE DID USE SOME DRIBBLE DRIVE PENETRATION ADN DISHING AND GIVE AN D GO LAST YEAR I THINK HES A PRETTY GOOD COACH DONT YOU ALL GO HOYAS CLIP THE EAGLES WINGS NO LET DOWNS THAT AU TEAM BEAT THE TOMBS IN THE KENNER THIS SUMMER NO LET DOWN AND ABOUT THE GOOD SUMMERS MAKE GREAT WINTERS MAYBE HES STARTING TO ROLL GO HOYAS PS MR. DAVIS DID SAY could even have the horses to win the national title hmmmmmm not many have said that one nope too bad quette and the ville lost ouch go hoyas go big east EVERYONE vs. ooc go hoyass
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MassHoya
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Post by MassHoya on Nov 30, 2008 20:27:33 GMT -5
Lakers>Wizards? Celtics are still world's champions. Gee, I guess they have an edge on both. Davis is a dufe, but Elmore is OK. The Twerps were better than the Hoyas in the mid 70's.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Nov 30, 2008 21:07:37 GMT -5
It's just a little odd to hear Hubie criticizing our offense when we are beating UMD by about 30 -- and they beat MSU.
Also odd that he would say we can win the BE, be a Final Four team, and even win the National Title... but we have to go to the big men more.
Well... we do have to go to Monroe more.
Just seems odd that he says it when we are beating the crap out of UMCP.
Also,,,, Fran is Fraschilla, not Dunphy
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Dec 1, 2008 0:17:40 GMT -5
Announcers were killing me tonight. (1) They dissed Jessie. (2) They went with Wingate on the all-Georgetown team over Jeff Green. I am a huge Wingate fan...but they simply all got that one wrong. (3) They had an idiotic discussion on praticing simulated technical/intentional foul shooting because we missed 3 out of 4.
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Post by The Stig on Dec 1, 2008 9:22:51 GMT -5
Most people really don't understand what the Princeton Offense is, and Hubert Davis is clearly one of those people.
Fraschilla is usually a dolt, but he was in good form yesterday. His knowledge of the DC recruiting scene was good for the GU-UMCP game, since the game was basically decided by each team's prowess (or lack thereof) in DC recruiting.
Len Elmore was very good throughout the tournament, and I didn't have any problem with his interview during the last game. He's a classy guy, even if he was a Terp.
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NCHoya
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Post by NCHoya on Dec 1, 2008 9:36:06 GMT -5
Anytime your "analysts" are questioning a team's strategy when they are up by 18 at the half suggests they may just be talking for talking sake. These two (Hubert and Jay) are clowns and if they want to make sweeping generalizations one day against Tennessee and then basically retract them the next game then you know they are simply filling out airtime for the network. Bilas sticks to his position until he is proven wrong over time these two just bounce around like pinballs.
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RDF
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Post by RDF on Dec 1, 2008 12:09:28 GMT -5
I have no problem with anyone questioning strategy--that is their job. My problem is you have to be able to support your argument-and saying something when 50% of your argument is saddled with foul trouble isn't making a valid point.
The other thing--Hubert is looking at this from perspective of player--not a coach. A coach has a TEAM to develop and realizes you won't be in 30 pt blowouts in Big East--this is NOT THE ACC where you get those routine blowouts--remember where he/Jay Williams played-they get tested 1-2 times per year beyond the UNC-Duke games--so it's not like Big East--where you will get teams coming at you and not backing down at site of jersey.
So what makes more sense--having inexperienced players pad stats and blowout Maryland by 50 pts or have young guys get in and learn and work on things in November game?
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Post by Hoya TMF on Dec 1, 2008 13:11:55 GMT -5
So what makes more sense--having inexperienced players pad stats and blowout Maryland by 50 pts or have young guys get in and learn and work on things in November game? and still squash the terps by 27 points? i'll take option B please!
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Post by wisconsinhoya on Dec 1, 2008 18:14:03 GMT -5
Let's face it. ESPN only has a few quality studio "experts," and Jay Williams and Hubert Davis are not two of them.
Nothing is more annoying that a studio person running their mouth because they feel the need to say something, but don't understand what they are talking about. How many games over the past four years has Jay Williams seen of Georgetown ?
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