prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Mar 30, 2010 12:11:54 GMT -5
Nice find, Tony. It looks like the kid has his head screwed on straight. If he continues that training, he'll compete/contribute from Day 1.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 30, 2010 14:27:30 GMT -5
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Post by gujake on Mar 30, 2010 17:05:26 GMT -5
Hahaha, video is worth watching for this alone.
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 30, 2010 17:33:16 GMT -5
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Mar 30, 2010 18:37:36 GMT -5
And indeed the Hoyas should have the best backcourt in America next year. IF GREG Stays, we could also have the best player in America!
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Post by tonyparker on Apr 7, 2010 13:27:49 GMT -5
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Post by westendhoya on Apr 7, 2010 13:31:29 GMT -5
Should have won player of the year...
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deacon
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Post by deacon on Apr 7, 2010 14:01:36 GMT -5
Starks had a great season, but Cook was the right choice.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 7, 2010 14:51:25 GMT -5
has the first team always been 10 players?
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Post by damnhoya on Apr 7, 2010 15:03:49 GMT -5
Cook was the right choice (Starks close behind him). Not sure about his pick of Steve Francis as his favorite athlete!
Can't wait to have him on the hilltop.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 7, 2010 16:02:30 GMT -5
Congrats to Markel.
Can someone tell me why the first team was five players all year during All-Met watch, then is suddenly ten players?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 7, 2010 16:23:07 GMT -5
Otherwise Kendall Marshall wouldn't have made the cut?
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Apr 7, 2010 16:38:54 GMT -5
Congratulations to Markel! Looking forward to seeing you on the court in a Hoya UNI!
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deacon
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Post by deacon on Apr 7, 2010 16:43:11 GMT -5
has the first team always been 10 players? Since I can remember (late 80's) the All-Met team has always been at least 10 players.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Apr 7, 2010 17:18:51 GMT -5
Starks had a great season, but Cook was the right choice. No, he wasn't. And I'm a loyal DeMatha guy. Cook's just concluded junior season is probably better than Stark's junior season of last year. But better than Stark's senior season? I'm sorry but Cook is still nowhere near as polished as Starks is right now. Starks averaged more assists DESPITE playing with far inferior talent. Cook still takes too many silly long jumpshots. He can still kill the Big D offense by looking for his own points. He is right now more of a shooting guard than point guard. And he is not as good of a shooter as Starks. Period. Granted Cook and the guys at DeMatha are playing better competition throughout the season. As they should. But no one in the area would say that Starks could not hold his own at least against Cook one-on-one. The big time Gtown Prep players get no respect. Roy was left off the First Team All Met while some bum from St Albans (which finished below Gtown Prep that season) made the First Team. And now we have Starks. I mean its not the worst crime in the world and Cook is a worthy choice. But I think Starks was the better choice. There was a reason why in that All Met watch from the WPost Satrks was the most consistent presence on the First Team listings. But in the end the award goes to the team from the most glamorous, successful and loaded team.
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Post by harwoodhoya on Apr 7, 2010 21:50:58 GMT -5
Cook is not as good as Starks. I have seen both and I was part of a minority that liked Starks as the best local guard in 2010.cook is good but not a point. He is an undersized 2.
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Post by deacon on Apr 8, 2010 1:18:30 GMT -5
Starks had a great season, but Cook was the right choice. No, he wasn't. And I'm a loyal DeMatha guy. Cook's jus concluded junior season is probably better than Stark's junior season of last year. But better than Stark's senior season? I'm sorry but Cook is still nowhere near as polished as Starks is right now. Starks averaged more assists DESPITE playing with far inferior talent. Cook still takes too many silly long jumpshots. He can still kill the Big D offense by looking for his own points. He is right now more of a shooting guard than point guard. And he is not as good of a shooter as Starks. Period. Granted Cook and the guys at DeMatha are playing better competition throughout the season. As they should. But no one in the area would say that Starks could not hold his own at least against Cook one-on-one. The big time Gtown Prep players get no respect. Roy was left off the First Team All Met while some bum from St Albans (which finished below Gtown Prep that season) made the First Team. And now we have Starks. I mean its not the worst crime in the world and Cook is a worthy choice. But I think Starks was the better choice. There was a reason why in that All Met watch from the WPost Satrks was the most consistent presence on the First Team listings. But in the end the award goes to the team from the most glamorous, successful and loaded team. Whether or not Starks could beat Cook in one-on-one is irrelevant in a discussion about who is more deserved of the All-Met POY. You say Starks is a better shooter, I say it's a push. You say Cook puts up way too many silly shots and can kill DeMatha's offense by looking for his own points? I say Starks does a lot of the same and isn't superior to Cook in this area whatsoever. You say Starks is more polished, I say he is more ready to compete at the collegiate level simply because he's a legit 6'2, 180" now and much more athletic as opposed to Cook who is about 5'10", 160. But as far as skill, Starks might be a better ball-handler, but everywhere else, it's either a push or I'd say advantage Cook. Defensively, it's a no-brainer. Cook is a much better defender, and you can ask Coach Bryant what he thinks about Markel's defense. And as far as their team's go, Markel's didn't win its conference, Cook's won the City Title, a game in which he showed everything in his arsenal on his way to winning the game's MVP award. I really, really, really like Markel and can't wait to see him at GU, but like I said, IMHO, Cook was the expected and right choice.
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Post by deacon on Apr 8, 2010 1:19:39 GMT -5
And yes, I graduated from DeMatha.
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Post by MCIGuy on Apr 8, 2010 1:52:52 GMT -5
Whether or not Starks could beat Cook in one-on-one is irrelevant in a discussion about who is more deserved of the All-Met POY. Thank you for explaining the criteria for me. I think I'll hold on to my one-on-one comments anyway. Wrong. Starks is a better shooter from long range, a better pullup jump shooter from midrange and because of his advantage in height and strength a better shooter/finisher at the rim. You call that a push? Get real. Now of course Cook has one more season to improve in all those areas. Starks has the advantage of having played one more year in high school of course so its not out of the question that by next season Cook proves to be just as good in these areas. But today? Its no contest. Starks wins that battle. Ask Josh barr who actually attends countless high school games if Starks takes too many stupid shots. What are you getting o about? Especialy this year Starks is far more under control. He shoots a better fg% to boot. Mot importantly he isn't playing with a bunch of high D1 college prospects and yet he shoots the ball better and he accumulates more assists. Case closed. You can't dispute those numbers. Uh, and? It is what it is when it coms to physical advantages. Its like saying one dude is a better shot blocker than another guy because he is 6'9 while the other guy is 6'6. Well, yes. Most times having that height advantage does make a huge difference. I can't penalize Starks for being taller. There were point guards in college this season who were beter than John Wall but they aren't anywhere near 6'4. But anyway we're getting off track. I think Starks is more poised mostly because he is a senior while Cook is a junior. That's all. When it comes to physical skill, which has nothing to do with basketball IQ or leadership, the most important skills for a point guard to me are ball handling, passing and shooting. I clearly think Starks is the superior shooter, we agree he is the better ball handler and I think both are equally capable of passing (Starks just does it more). So what are the other skiils left that you think Cook is more adept at? If we're going to throw Coach Bryant's name in there then ask him who is the best player in the DC area. He won't hesitate to say Markel. Now tossing that aside both guys aren't exactly lock down defenders so I don't see Cook having that huge of an advantage on defense. Maybe he's more pesky and persistent. Its a legit point although Starks was injured in that last game he played in when Prep lost in the semi-finals of his conference tourney. However lets be fair to point out once more that DeMatha is LOADED. The Stags didn't need Cook to be great as often to win and to take the WCAC crown. If it wasn't for his teammates Cook may not have gotten the chance to make the city title game and show his tremendous skills in the first palce. Meanwhile even against much lower competition, Prep relied much more heavily on Starks' play. And to be blunt DeMatha has a heritage no one can match. It had it long before Cook arrived and will have it long after he's gone. Gtown Prep though isn't much of a power and has been known to lose more of its share of IAC Championships than it should. Interpret that anyway you want.
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Post by HeartAttackHoya on Apr 8, 2010 11:07:00 GMT -5
Advantage: MCI Guy
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