New 3pt line & next years team

[OldHoyafan]

With all the talk about the new recruits coming next year, how does the board think the new 20'9" 3pt line will affect the new guys and guys lke Summers,Sapp,Freeman and Wright. A big part of the Princeton offense envolves making teams pay for zoning by putting shooters behind the 3pt line. Will JT3 adjust his offense?

[daytonahoya31]

why should he adjust his offense? we have guys that can shoot the ball. if anything, it helps the offense as it's constructed because there will be much more spacing as all four of the guys you mentioned are capable of hitting three's from 21 feet as opposed to 20 feet.

and if anything, it's a great rule because it'll prevent teams like (ahem) davidson from springing b.s. upsets by simply getting hot from an easy to shoot from three-point line.

[GUHoya07]

The change in the 3 point line is not drastic enough to have any major effect in my opinion. For good shooters it will be just as easy to hit the three.

[daytonahoya31]

it'll be the ones who really can't shoot, people like Sam Young or a Paul Harris who will be effected. The rule will weed out the guys who are truely supposed to be three-point shooters

[chep3]

Agree a lot with daytona. That's generally a good thing because we are going to have a team full of solid shooters. The further someone's going to have to come out and attempt to guard Chris Wright, the better for us.

[SFHoya99]

I think it is a valid question. I don't it see it affecting Chris or Austin much. I'm not sure about DaJuan or Jessie. Certainly it's more distance Monroe and others will have to add.

A good coach will take advantage of the spacing. We already shoot a lot of threes past the line because of this.

Still, it can't help to time our lack of an established post presence with an extended three point line.

[GIGAFAN99]

Any change that makes things harder helps us as long as recruiting continues to be this good. Higher degree of difficulty benefits more talented teams.

[MCIGuy]

If you're gonna give Nikita and possibly Omar scholarships, let them play because they will be two of the very best shooters on the team. And they have the height to get their shots off against most defenders.

[idhoya]

they both need to get considerably stronger

[Eurostar]

i feel like most of the time our guys we're spotting up from nba land anyways this year so it shouldnt affect us much. if anything it will create more spacing which might open up cuts.

[joey0403p]

I have never seen Nikita play, but Omar impressed me in his limited mins this year. Seems like 1 he has a wet shot. and 2 he seems to put forth effort on D.

These were all in late late game blow outs - but I was encouraged by what I saw.

[RDF]

Mar 25, 2008 22:20:38 GMT -5 daytonahoya31 said:

it'll be the ones who really can't shoot, people like Sam Young or a Paul Harris who will be effected. The rule will weed out the guys who are truely supposed to be three-point shooters

Throw in Dominic James in this crew too--he can't hit the college 3pt shot now--what will moving it back to his "First Round status"?

[dajuan]

Mar 26, 2008 8:38:47 GMT -5 joey0403p said:

I have never seen Nikita play, but Omar impressed me in his limited mins this year. Seems like 1 he has a wet shot. and 2 he seems to put forth effort on D.

These were all in late late game blow outs - but I was encouraged by what I saw.

Not to rain on Wattad's parade, but it's not hard to "put forth effort on D" when you play 3 minutes per game.

With regard to the extended 3 point line, it will help every team that has a low-post game because it will be that much farther for defenders to go to double down. I think it would have really helped Roy a lot. Hopefully Monroe and Macklin will reap the benefit of the extended line next year.

[mrsixer123]

until we learn how to beat a 2-3 zone via having some CONSISTENTLY flash to the free throw line and take advantage of the short corner, we will never again be able to fully execute the Princeton O.

[theexorcist]

Mar 26, 2008 10:49:15 GMT -5 mrsixer123 said:

until we learn how to beat a 2-3 zone via having some CONSISTENTLY flash to the free throw line and take advantage of the short corner, we will never again be able to fully execute the Princeton O.

Sigh. I don't have a magic weapon or acid to beat off a troll ...

What is "CONSISTENTLY flash"? This is going to be really hard with the skintight unis.

[GIGAFAN99]

Mar 26, 2008 10:49:15 GMT -5 mrsixer123 said:

until we learn how to beat a 2-3 zone via having some CONSISTENTLY flash to the free throw line and take advantage of the short corner, we will never again be able to fully execute the Princeton O.

I'm not sure what's happened in other threads but sixer is right here. Honestly, this is where Monroe will help us the most in that he can be used like Jeff was to take the heart out of the zone.

Dajuan wasn't a good enough passer. Vern didn't have the mid-range game to do it. Pat couldn't shoot without being on the move. Roy actually could do it but it left us without a low-post threat when he did.

If Dajuan and Vern want to focus on something this summer, it's getting a mid-range and high post game.

[MCIGuy]

Mar 26, 2008 10:30:45 GMT -5 dajuan said:

Mar 26, 2008 8:38:47 GMT -5 joey0403p said:

I have never seen Nikita play, but Omar impressed me in his limited mins this year. Seems like 1 he has a wet shot. and 2 he seems to put forth effort on D.

These were all in late late game blow outs - but I was encouraged by what I saw.

Not to rain on Wattad's parade, but it's not hard to "put forth effort on D" when you play 3 minutes per game.

With regard to the extended 3 point line, it will help every team that has a low-post game because it will be that much farther for defenders to go to double down. I think it would have really helped Roy a lot. Hopefully Monroe and Macklin will reap the benefit of the extended line next year.

It would not have helped Roy out at all. The further the distance out of the three point line means the les likely teams will make the shot. Which of course means defenses would just pack in more in the paint.

[NCHoya]

I have to agree with dajaun, Roy would have benefited from this rule. IMO, one foot is not enough for guys to stop chucking 3s which means that is one more foot the defense would have to extend away from the lane.

Unless you believe an extra foot is going to deter guys from shooting, then yeah, this will help the big men post-up. I just assume 3pt attempts will not go down next season.

I like the change though; anything to let the cream rise to the top gets my vote. I feel like the mid-majors are getting, in general, the benefit of the doubt right now by the refs and it sucks. Faster, bigger teams are being penalized and forced to play to the middies level rather than the opposite.

[HometownHoya]

I also believe that the extension on the 3pt line will be beneficial to our team. As others pointed out, we typically shoot from pretty far out already (as a result of good spacing), so that shouldn't effect us as far as 3's go. One area that I believe it will benefit us is when our guards post up (we have seen Austin and Jessie do this a few times), I'm not sure if it is a part of our offense, but JTIII doesn't seem to discourage it (if its not). But since defenders will be further out defending the perimeter, it will give more space for our guards to post up their 6'1"-6'-4" defenders.

[mrsixer123]

Mar 26, 2008 10:53:36 GMT -5 theexorcist said:

Mar 26, 2008 10:49:15 GMT -5 mrsixer123 said:

until we learn how to beat a 2-3 zone via having some CONSISTENTLY flash to the free throw line and take advantage of the short corner, we will never again be able to fully execute the Princeton O.

Sigh. I don't have a magic weapon or acid to beat off a troll ...

What is "CONSISTENTLY flash"? This is going to be really hard with the skintight unis.

the low bball iq on the board makes one want to vomit..............