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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Feb 24, 2008 13:34:25 GMT -5
We talked about this on the boards before. I'm starting the List of Shame for the Louisville Game. The following tickets were available on Stubhub on Sunday, February 24, 2008:
Section 118 Row C (1)
Section 118 Row Q (2)
Section 118 Row H (1)
Section 119 Row G (2)
Section 119 Row T (2)
Section 119 Row R (2)
Section 119 Row L (5)
Section 120 Row A (2)
Section 119 Row K (2)
Section 120 Row F (2)
Section 120 Row D (2)
Section 120 Row J (2)
Section 121 Row A (2)
Section 121 Row F (1)
Section 121 Row O (2)
Section 100 Row G (2)
Section 101 Row O (2)
Section 102 Row O (2)
Section 102 Row Q (2)
Section 102 Row R (6)
Section 102 Row K (2)
Section 103 Row M (2)
Section 103 Row R (2)
Section 103 Row E (4)
Section 104 Row A (2)
Section 104 Row N (4)
Section 104 Row L (4)
Section 104 Row T (1)
Section 104 Row R (2)
Section 104 Row S (2)
Section 107 Row F (1)
Section 107 Row J (3)
Section 107 Row K (2)
Section 107 Row O (2)
Section 107 Row R (2)
Section 107 Row T (1)
Section 108 Row K (2) (comment says the seats are great)
Section 108 Row J (2)
Section 108 Row P (5)
Section 109 Row C (2)
Section 109 Row E (2)
Section 109 Row O (4)
Section 109 Row N (2)
Section 112 Row H (2)
Section 112 Row Q (2)
Section 113 Row A (2)
Section 113 Row N (10)
Section 113 Row O (2)
Section 114 Row D (2)
Section 114 Row M (2)
Section 114 Row N (2)
Section 114 Row O (2)
Section 114 Row Q (3)
Section 114 Row R (2)
Section 115 Row E (2)
Section 115 Row L (14)
Section 115 Row N (2)
Congrats to Sections 110 and 111 - no tickets being sold currently. However, in the lower bowl there are currently 148 tickets for sale in the lower bowl which is primarily held by season ticket holders. Including two in my row. I understand that our basketball program is big business and Stubhub probably pays the University good money. But part of the value I and many others get from our season ticket packages is knowing that we will be with other Hoyas fans, selling your tickets to fans of other teams reduces the value of season tickets for many others.
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Post by strummer8526 on Feb 24, 2008 13:43:02 GMT -5
I know alums in non-DC cities that have season tickets and make it to like 1 or 2 games a year. Does anyone get the point of that?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 24, 2008 13:49:21 GMT -5
I know alums in non-DC cities that have season tickets and make it to like 1 or 2 games a year. Does anyone get the point of that? Yes, I do. I used to order 3-4 games a year, but beginning last season the ticket office will not sell any single tickets outside the 400 level. So, for the last two years, I have bought season tickets with a group of GU alumni, whereupon games I don't use, they do. So while the seats a row below us tend to have a mix of out of towners, our seats stay in the family, so to speak. |
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Post by schiavoed on Feb 24, 2008 14:04:20 GMT -5
this is a crisis! the horror!
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Post by JimmyHoya on Feb 24, 2008 14:04:34 GMT -5
Yikes.
....somebody buy those seats!
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Feb 24, 2008 14:19:48 GMT -5
I know alums in non-DC cities that have season tickets and make it to like 1 or 2 games a year. Does anyone get the point of that? Yes, I do. I don't get the need to put the rest of them for sale on a site where they are likely to be bought by a fan of the opposing team. |
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Post by Locker on Feb 24, 2008 14:21:19 GMT -5
Is there anything that would prevent a scalper from becoming a Hoop Club member? It's not like you have to be an alum.
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Post by Jack on Feb 24, 2008 14:32:42 GMT -5
I know alums in non-DC cities that have season tickets and make it to like 1 or 2 games a year. Does anyone get the point of that? Yes, I do. I don't get the need to put the rest of them for sale on a site where they are likely to be bought by a fan of the opposing team. Just what are the out of town fans supposed to do with their tickets for midweek games against lower level competition (e.g. St. John's this Wednesday)? If someone on stubhub is willing to pay for the ticket and all the local GU fans you know already have their own tickets to the game, why not get something back for the ticket you paid for? The righteous indignation of people who are fortunate enough to live in easy range of Verizon Center against those of us who choose to support the Hoyas from afar is bizarre. Would you rather none of us have season tickets, thus depressing ticket sales and hoop club donations? And I say this as someone who has never put his ticket on stubhub, but only because I sit with other local fans who are typically able to find someone to use my seat when I cannot make it down. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 24, 2008 14:34:02 GMT -5
Three of us in the Boston area split 6 seats, for the same reason and with the same approach to use as DFW. We try our best to keep the tickets in the hands of Hoya supporters.
There is a group of 4 seats directly in front of ours that has been home for opposing fans for every game I have attended thus far this year. Clearly a fair number of seats in the HHC sections are owned by either corporations or people who sell most of the tickets.
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Post by The Stig on Feb 24, 2008 14:48:16 GMT -5
Could the HHC sell single-game tickets?
I'm thinking of some sort of system where season ticket holders could sell single-game tickets back to the HHC, and the HHC would then re-sell them to Hoya fans who don't have season tickets. So in effect the HHC would become a sort of scalper for Hoya fans who want to keep their tickets in friendly hands.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Feb 24, 2008 14:57:42 GMT -5
Could the HHC sell single-game tickets? I'm thinking of some sort of system where season ticket holders could sell single-game tickets back to the HHC, and the HHC would then re-sell them to Hoya fans who don't have season tickets. So in effect the HHC would become a sort of scalper for Hoya fans who want to keep their tickets in friendly hands. That's what I'm thinking. I understand the need for out-of-town fans to get tickets (so please don't snipe me for that) and I understand that there are probably administrative costs that are transfered from HHC to Stubhub through this deal - but I feel that the goal of creating a home court advantage for games like Louiville is undercut when so many fans can resell their tickets to opposing fans, not to mention the reduced return on season tickets in terms of in-game experience. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 24, 2008 16:01:41 GMT -5
Stig and St. Pete: while that sounds great, it does not get around those people who buy seats for their corporation or who purchase the seats for the (apparent) sole purpose of making a buck selling them. They're not likely to use a system that, while putting seats in the hands of Hoya fans, does not allow them to profit as much.
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Post by nolahoya on Feb 24, 2008 19:05:12 GMT -5
thanks for the list . we've had 2 season tickets in sec. 112 for 5 years. this summer I called the ticket office and complained. why? the ENTIRE REST OF THE ROW FOR EVERY home game has always been the opposition. I asked if season ticket holders owned the seats and was told yes. I said I was tired of going to HOME games and feeling as if I was at an AWAY game. It was insulting to have WVU fans sit there and curse me out. Well, this year, so far everyone who has been there have been Hoya fans. At the Cincy game I asked the guy next to me if he bought the tickets off STubHub. He said no, he got them from the Hoop Club. I doubt if my call made the difference, but I'm happy to sit next to fellow Hoyas.
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Post by The Stig on Feb 24, 2008 23:33:37 GMT -5
Stig and St. Pete: while that sounds great, it does not get around those people who buy seats for their corporation or who purchase the seats for the (apparent) sole purpose of making a buck selling them. They're not likely to use a system that, while putting seats in the hands of Hoya fans, does not allow them to profit as much. Obviously you'll never get all of them. There will always be some tickets that end up in opposing hands. However, outside of this board there's no reliable way for a Hoya fan (especially an out of town one) to sell their tickets and ensure that they end up in friendly hands. It would be nice if there was a reliable one-stop place to send unused tickets and ensure that they go to Hoya fans. On the same token, it would be nice for non-season ticket holding Hoya fans (I'm thinking mostly about out of town fans here) to have a reliable place to get good tickets without paying an arm and a leg at Stubhub. Would it be a perfect cure-all system? No. But I think it would help. |
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 24, 2008 23:39:13 GMT -5
I know alums in non-DC cities that have season tickets and make it to like 1 or 2 games a year. Does anyone get the point of that? Perhaps you will better understand it after you have been passionately following the Hoyas (and travelling all over the country to see them play in person) for a couple dozen more years like many of the alums you refer to. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 24, 2008 23:56:17 GMT -5
Stig: there is already a mechanism whereby you can donate tickets you do not use back to GU - they will then get them in the hands of Hoya fans. Typically I believe these are some of the tickets they use for out-of-town HHC members who come down for a single game or two. They also donate them to local boys and girls clubs. We have done this with some of the games we could not attend.
There is no sale value for this, but as others have pointed out on the board before, the donations do count as part of your total to the HHC that year.
I've also pointed out before that BC has an in-house ticket trade/sale board. I don't know what fees are involved, but I do know that getting rid of tickets to less popular games is not very successful through it.
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Post by strummer8526 on Feb 24, 2008 23:59:23 GMT -5
I know alums in non-DC cities that have season tickets and make it to like 1 or 2 games a year. Does anyone get the point of that? Perhaps you will better understand it after you have been passionately following the Hoyas (and travelling all over the country to see them play in person) for a couple dozen more years like many of the alums you refer to. In the last year, I've seen the Hoyas in 5 states, including a delightful 35 hours in a car for Memphis. I feel ok about my commitment to the team. Perhaps you'd like to be a full time law student and not miss a game yet. And I'm not criticizing the fans who have bought such tickets. I didn't know that it was impossible to buy seats lower than the 400's for individual games. I'm personally also referring to people that I'm pretty much positive don't really care that much about even going to games. I'm sorry, but if you just graduated, went to about 3 games all last season, now live in NY, and have come back for 1 game, I don't really see the point. |
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Post by The Stig on Feb 25, 2008 0:28:31 GMT -5
Stig: there is already a mechanism whereby you can donate tickets you do not use back to GU - they will then get them in the hands of Hoya fans. Typically I believe these are some of the tickets they use for out-of-town HHC members who come down for a single game or two. They also donate them to local boys and girls clubs. We have done this with some of the games we could not attend. There is no sale value for this, but as others have pointed out on the board before, the donations do count as part of your total to the HHC that year. I've also pointed out before that BC has an in-house ticket trade/sale board. I don't know what fees are involved, but I do know that getting rid of tickets to less popular games is not very successful through it. OK, in that case I stand corrected about the lack of a system. Maybe they should try to publicize the current system more, or a financial incentive to it, at some price where the school could at least break even by re-selling some of them. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 25, 2008 0:34:29 GMT -5
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Post by joey0403p on Feb 25, 2008 8:51:36 GMT -5
MY girlfriend and I spent a considerable amount of money to get season tickets this year. We are both young alums that choose to get nicer seats near mid court. They have been absolutely worth the extra cash (vs the YA section). We've only missed 1 game while on vacation which I was able to sell on Hoyatalk for face (plus the donation into the section).
We also came into two extra seats (her parents got them for us). They happen to not be as good as the ones we purchased - but still good and lower bowl. We gave away most of the non conference games to friends who were fans and we've been trying to sell the conference games to friends and members on this board. We would very much like to recoup some of the investment we made on our "good" seats.
A game like Louisville is a big draw and I was hopeful of getting more than seat value. It is tough to consider that some are getting several hundred dollars on stub hub and I am expected to sell them for face on this board. I'm all for giving hoya fans a break - but the difference between 30 / seat and 2 or 3 or 4 hundred a seat for that game is a little too big of a break to have. Hoya talkers are offended that I dare to ask for more than face - when it is completely possible they are buying the tix from me for face and putting on stub hub to turn a profit.
I haven't put the seats on stub hub, and I wont even if it means losing a lot of money. Its just a hard pill to swallow - and then to come on this board and get reprimanded by others who think somehow they are "better" than the rest of us.
please.
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