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Post by TBird41 on Sept 11, 2007 8:16:33 GMT -5
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Post by badgerhoya on Sept 11, 2007 8:48:13 GMT -5
GB has NO Running game and was really gifted a game, good call Andy let the guy who doesn't know how to field a punt do it EVERY TIME. Their defense is good, but I still don't know why people continue to slurp all over AJ Hawk. The guy was a beast in college but he has been good but not spectacular. He could improve but the way some cheesheads put it you would think that he is the greatest defender produced in the past ten years. C'mon VC -- you know exactly why people slurp over AJ. It's the same reason people slurp all over the good but not GOAT Urlacher. He just happens to be the most prominent (white) face of an upper midwest franchise. Same thing happened w/the Vikes when they had Hovan. Besides, any fan recognizes that it's the full front seven of the Packers that's good, not just the second-year player that brings them all together.
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Post by Boz on Sept 11, 2007 12:32:08 GMT -5
@%^@$%^$@#$ Brian Billick!
RUN the goddam ball, genius!
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Post by kchoya on Sept 11, 2007 13:15:44 GMT -5
@%^@$%^$@#$ Brian Billick! RUN the goddam ball, genius! [/bitter] Don't you have to, like, push off or do something to be called for offensive pass interference in the end zone on fourth down at the end of the game? At least Heap made up for it by catching the later pass that hit him in the numbers, oh, never mind.
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Post by Boz on Sept 11, 2007 13:43:32 GMT -5
Well, yes, it was a horrendous call (and, to be fair, a pretty doo-doo make-up call on the next play).
But they never should have happened. And then, the Genius gets a reprieve with first and goal on the 5 and STILL doesn't run the ball.
This against last year's 30th ranked defense, mind you. And a defense that, even without Ogden, Baltimore was more or less running on at will in the second half.
I think Billick just hates Kyle Boller, wants him to off himself so he can get Leftwich.
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Post by RDF on Sept 11, 2007 14:24:52 GMT -5
As long as Steve McNair is masquerading as a QB--the Ravens are doomed. He's awful. Just awful. For a guy to play as long as McNair has and be as inaccurate as he is--it's pathetic. The Ravens are going nowhere with this guy as QB. Nobody ever does--but he's hyped as a "great leader". Leader of what? His teams lose because of his inability to have a good passing game due to not being an accurate passer. He blows.
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Post by vcjack on Sept 11, 2007 18:06:02 GMT -5
Goddell is showing that he isn't just a hard ass on player behavior; he's considering sanctions against the Patriots for videotaping the Jets play signals sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3014677Although I do have to say that the patriots deciding to cheat in order to get an advantage on the JETS is kinda like Nixon cheating to get an advantage on McGovern; unecessary, overreaching and representative of control issues at the top
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Post by TigerHoya on Sept 11, 2007 18:18:24 GMT -5
the whole city apparently hates Boller for some reason
the fans here are worse than the Skins' ones that used to call in about Rypien on WTEM when I was at GU
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Post by TigerHoya on Sept 11, 2007 18:18:48 GMT -5
One bit of good news: Everett of the Bills is expected to walk again according to ESPN
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2007 21:05:20 GMT -5
Goddell is showing that he isn't just a hard ass on player behavior; he's considering sanctions against the Patriots for videotaping the Jets play signals sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3014677Although I do have to say that the patriots deciding to cheat in order to get an advantage on the JETS is kinda like Nixon cheating to get an advantage on McGovern; unecessary, overreaching and representative of control issues at the top The Pats have been busted for this before (last year vs. Green Bay).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2007 21:08:15 GMT -5
One bit of good news: Everett of the Bills is expected to walk again according to ESPN My father is good friends with Drs. Marzo and Cappuccino (the team physicians) and they are increasingly optimistic... but Kevin is hardly out of the woods yet. Had voluntary movement in his extremities today, albeit greatly limited movement. Reason for hope, but hardly a breakthrough... ... yet.
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Post by FewFAC on Sept 12, 2007 10:41:14 GMT -5
As long as Steve McNair is masquerading as a QB--the Ravens are doomed. He's awful. Just awful. For a guy to play as long as McNair has and be as inaccurate as he is--it's pathetic. The Ravens are going nowhere with this guy as QB. Nobody ever does--but he's hyped as a "great leader". Leader of what? His teams lose because of his inability to have a good passing game due to not being an accurate passer. He blows. The Ravens could have Joe Montana as their starting QB and their offense would still look like Notre Dame's has for the past two weeks. I am trying really hard to find a team that just consistently hates offense as much as the Ravens' organization, and the Bears, of course (Sid Luckman, resident QB records holder), comes to mind. I think the only way for an organization to be so good defensively is to have an allergic reaction to quarterbacks. Having an allergic reaction to quarterbacks leads to successful sacks defensively, but also an inability to successfully develop and nurture quarterbacks offensively. It's like the left hand knows what the right hand is doing, even if the right hand doesn't want the left to know. That or maybe Ray Lewis & Co is just mentally, physically and spiritually destroying the offense in practice. Just a theory.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2007 15:02:16 GMT -5
As long as Steve McNair is masquerading as a QB--the Ravens are doomed. He's awful. Just awful. For a guy to play as long as McNair has and be as inaccurate as he is--it's pathetic. The Ravens are going nowhere with this guy as QB. Nobody ever does--but he's hyped as a "great leader". Leader of what? His teams lose because of his inability to have a good passing game due to not being an accurate passer. He blows. The Ravens could have Joe Montana as their starting QB and their offense would still look like Notre Dame's has for the past two weeks. I am trying really hard to find a team that just consistently hates offense as much as the Ravens' organization, and the Bears, of course (Sid Luckman, resident QB records holder), comes to mind. I think the only way for an organization to be so good defensively is to have an allergic reaction to quarterbacks. Having an allergic reaction to quarterbacks leads to successful sacks defensively, but also an inability to successfully develop and nurture quarterbacks offensively. It's like the left hand knows what the right hand is doing, even if the right hand doesn't want the left to know. That or maybe Ray Lewis & Co is just mentally, physically and spiritually destroying the offense in practice. Just a theory. McNair's shortcomings aside, Ravens fans are about to discover what Bills fans have known for a few years now - Willis McGahee is probably one of the most overrated players in the league today. That 20-or so carry, 80-or so yard, long run of 13 yard performance is about all you'll get from Willis (unless he plays against one of his boys, like Jonathan Vilma... then he actually tries). The guy has ZERO breakaway speed, can't block a lick, does not run with power in short yardage situations, spends more time dancing for a hole rather than run through it, and is in no way a threat out of the backfield as a receiver. Baltimore way overspent for marginal production. Any numbers Willis puts up in the Ravens system could easily be put up by any marginally talented back.
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Post by hifigator on Sept 12, 2007 15:21:44 GMT -5
C'mon Buff, don't pull any punches: tell us what you really think.
Tough loss on Sunday. That's a horrible way to start the season, and next is a trip to Pittsburgh. What is your take on that game? Pitt is favored by ten.
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Post by FewFAC on Sept 13, 2007 9:40:47 GMT -5
McNair's shortcomings aside, Ravens fans are about to discover what Bills fans have known for a few years now - Willis McGahee is probably one of the most overrated players in the league today. That 20-or so carry, 80-or so yard, long run of 13 yard performance is about all you'll get from Willis (unless he plays against one of his boys, like Jonathan Vilma... then he actually tries). The guy has ZERO breakaway speed, can't block a lick, does not run with power in short yardage situations, spends more time dancing for a hole rather than run through it, and is in no way a threat out of the backfield as a receiver. Baltimore way overspent for marginal production. Any numbers Willis puts up in the Ravens system could easily be put up by any marginally talented back. I was going to say that the McGahee for Lewis was precisely when I wrote off the Ravens season, but the reality was I had written the Ravens off a loooong time ago. Same thing for McGahee. Absolutely killed my fantasy team five years ago and hasn't had a better season since. One other thing. I don't think it's that McGahee isn't trying.
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Post by TigerHoya on Sept 13, 2007 13:29:16 GMT -5
Chansi Stuckey out for the year for the Jets.
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Post by hifigator on Sept 13, 2007 14:50:50 GMT -5
Goddell is showing that he isn't just a hard ass on player behavior; he's considering sanctions against the Patriots for videotaping the Jets play signals sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3014677Although I do have to say that the patriots deciding to cheat in order to get an advantage on the JETS is kinda like Nixon cheating to get an advantage on McGovern; unecessary, overreaching and representative of control issues at the top The Pats have been busted for this before (last year vs. Green Bay). I think there are a couple of different views on this. On one hand there is a rule against videotaping the opposing sidelines so it is clearcut from that perspective. More importantly they held a meeting in the offseason addressing that specific issue and made it very clear that it is a no-no. On the other hand it is just awfully hard to think that signals that coaches make in plain sight of the whole world to see are really privileged information. Personally I just don't think it is that big of a deal, but I understand that others think differently. My view is that it is somewhat silly to worry about it. Just change your signals. It would not be very hard for defensive players to wear one of those playbook wristbands then you could change the signals every week easily. Still, for whatever reason the NFL is making a big deal about it and they were very clear. Therefore I think some significant punishment is warranted. Would taking away a draft pick be enough or would a forfeit and/or suspensions be better?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2007 18:14:12 GMT -5
C'mon Buff, don't pull any punches: tell us what you really think. Tough loss on Sunday. That's a horrible way to start the season, and next is a trip to Pittsburgh. What is your take on that game? Pitt is favored by ten. Bills had a chance to be the #2 team in the AFC East and compete for a Wild Card berth. Those chances all but fizzled by the end of the opening game. Coming into the game, starting WLB Keith Ellison was out (perhaps for the year) as was DE Ryan Denney (who plays a ton in the Bills' DE rotation system). After the game, add to the list Ellison's backup Coy Wire, starting FS Koy Simpson, starting CB Jason Webster, and - obviously - Kevin Everett. Roster is in shambles. On top of that, the entire city is spooked by the Everett situation and an eerie pall has been cast over the team and the season. People were hoping for 9-7 or 8-8 around here... now we'll settle for 6-10 or 7-9 and Everett walking out of Gates Circle sometime over the next year. EDIT: Oh yeah... Simpson and Webster are out for the year. Plus, Anthony Hargrave is serving a four game suspension.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2007 18:16:59 GMT -5
@%^@$%^$@#$ Brian Billick! RUN the goddam ball, genius! [/bitter] Why? He knows as well as anyone McGahee can't run for s--t in short-yardage situations. Hell, there were TWO TIMES last year when the Bills had him run on 4th and short, and he DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT DOWN IT WAS. Even with Boller, you gotta pass in that situation. Guaranteed disaster with McGahee.
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Post by Boz on Sept 14, 2007 8:04:02 GMT -5
Two words: Musa Smith.
I agree that the Ravens overpaid for McGahee, but I think he is going to be fine in Balitmore, mainly because he is NOT going to be asked to be the workhorse that Jamal Lewis was.
He'll be sharing carries with Smith and Mike Anderson all year.
Anderson didn't play that game, or I'd be even MADDER at Billick for not running.
Hell, Boller could have sneaked two times for a TD on 3rd and goal.
As TMQ says.....POUND, POUND, POUND.
EDIT: sorry to monopolize with Ravens discussion, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find a bigger coaching mistake in Week 1. Except perhaps Belichick videotaping the other team....which just happens to be coached by his former assistant who almost certainly knew EXACTLY what he was doing.
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