CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on May 1, 2006 10:18:10 GMT -5
This movie was ablsolutely terrible. It started out with some promise, as the first few scenes were decent. Then it began to drag through useless subplots, scenes that went nowhere, and several unsuccessful plot devices that existed simply to get face time for different organizations. The Saxa Force and Jesuit Council parts were horrible. The idea of having to get the four schools involved was interesting, but the fact that the College and Nursing school don't have the recognizable stereotypes that the SFS and MSB have ruined their recruitment scenes. There were also way too many montages of the protagonist pensively wandering around campus with moody music playing. One would have been sufficient. There seemed to have been no editing done, as the movie was over two hours long, and had several scenes which not only didn't further the plot, but were almost unwatchable. The acting and character development was poor across the board, perhaps due to the fact that casting seemed be limited to the friends of the people making the film, leaning heavily on GUSA and SigEp people.
I fear that this movie will become part of NSO, or potentially worse, GAAP weekend. I know that if I had seen such a film at GAAP weekend, I would be at a different school right now.
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Post by SoCal Hoya85 on May 1, 2006 10:25:16 GMT -5
Iagree with CT that artistically this movie failed miserably, and while usually I would be grateful to see people trying to raise school spirit through other means, this movie represents Georgetown poorly. I appreciate the fact they are not professionals, but they should have recognized their own limitations and not waste so much money on such a bad movie. More concerning is the fact that thousands of dollars went to this movie, which could have been used so many other places where it would make a difference. Now this is money GUSA raised itself, but the fact they choose to spend the money in this fashion is tragic. I hope that students can get over their GUSA apathy long enough to vote this administration out of office when election time comes. I might actually vote for a real candidate this year- and when it comes to that you know you have screwed up. www.georgetownforever.com/main/index.htm
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Post by FormerHoya on May 1, 2006 11:26:07 GMT -5
Vote for LEV!!!
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Post by nodak89 on May 1, 2006 12:39:01 GMT -5
It sounds like it has to be seen to be believed.
Is it bad enough that it is worth getting the DVD? Or is it just regular bad.
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Post by SoCal Hoya85 on May 1, 2006 13:00:45 GMT -5
Unfortunately the movie is bad due to boring, pointless scenes, poor editing, jokes that go on way to long, pointless story lines, and a lack of direction instead of an ineptitude of acting or other components which can come off as unintentionally funny.
It does do a good job capturing some scenic parts of Georgetown and does a mediocre job capturing the extra curriculars and other parts of Georgetown which make it such a great institution, so some alumni might enjoy that aspect. So if you want to buy a two and a half hour slide show of parts of Georgetown (in a red filter) it might be passable, but there is almost no redeeming story line and there is an hour stretch which is close to unbearable.
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Post by saxacalhoya on May 1, 2006 13:13:17 GMT -5
Seriously get over yourselves. Is it a Hollywood film? No. But since Georgetown isn't USC and since the kids involved are largely self-taught using these technologies it's pretty damn good. I'm not sure what you were expecting. Honestly, the same could have been said for some of Nodak's early tracks -- and Nodak I love your cuts -- but people saw it for what it was. Maybe you should have the same respect for the film. And CT seriously drop the wannabe Ebert and Ropert schtick. You just sound bitter that you weren't in it ... next time read the broadcast emails that went out or the website that had openly asked for volunteers (actors, writers, etc.). I know where YouTube is, so I'll wait to see your masterpiece posted online. The film was initiated by students, not professionals nor the University. It's fun and it's cheesey. Had music created by current students and alums. And, most importantly, it accomplished what it set out to do which is build community and let students, faculty and staff celebrate Georgetown. Whether it was folks who bought the t-shirts used for the fundraising, others that were in the film or composed music for it, or just the ones who showed up to watch it .. they all helped make it. The film celebrates our stupid stereotypes, let's us see the iconic figures of our community (Fr. King and Prof. Arend) and all the quirky things we take for granted on the HillTop (Tombs, Chicken Madness, etc.). That's exactly how people will see it .. that Georgetown can have fun with itself and that everything isn't so f*n serious. SoCal you should recognize that (and if you think that was so much money you obviously don't go to any othe event on campus which easily drops more for cookies and sodas). And at the end of the day, it wasn't The BC: www.the-bc.com/
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Post by SoCal Hoya85 on May 1, 2006 13:21:45 GMT -5
Well if the film was produced cheaply then I apoligize for my accusations on that point. I had heard it was fairly expensive. As I said I know it was not done by professionals, so if it was done cheaply then I don't have any problem with it (well as big as a problem with it to be honest). I appreciate efforts to be creative and raise school spirit as long as they don't waste money which can be put to better use elsewhere.
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Post by Filo on May 1, 2006 13:22:38 GMT -5
I think we have another CD-BD thread in the works here....
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on May 1, 2006 13:26:24 GMT -5
I went into the movie not expecting much and was surprised at how good it was compared to what I thought I was going to see. There are some very good jokes about Georgetown and Ivy League schools and they made them very well. I was going to buy the DVD but they sold out and are pressing more of them. I don't know if the heavy critique of SoCal and CT is warranted here - it was students who go to a school with very little artistic tradition and not a lot of facilities for film editing combined with a soundtrack from a school that doesn't have much of a performing arts tradition - these students were taking time out from majors that have nothing to do with what they were working on - we can cut them some slack.
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Post by CTHoya08 on May 1, 2006 13:29:42 GMT -5
And CT seriously drop the wannabe Ebert and Ropert schtick. You just sound bitter that you weren't in it ... next time read the broadcast emails that went out or the website that had openly asked for volunteers (actors, writers, etc.). I know where YouTube is, so I'll wait to see your masterpiece posted online. Bitter I wasn't in it??? I thought from the beginning the film was a horrible idea, and I thought that declining to participate in the battle scene was a great decision for Hoya Blue. The fact that you were looking for so many volunteers and got so few might have something to do with the fact that the project was so bad to begin with. You don't have to be a film major at USC to realize that twenty minutes of the protagonist wandering around campus with moody music playing is tedious and interupts the flow of the film. I didn't even mention the atrocious lighting in the first post. I don't know my ability to recognize how bad this movie was makes me a "wannabe Ebert and Ropert." I'm just someone who has enough pride about Georgetown that I don't like seeing my school treated in such a ridiculous manner in a film made by some of our own students. You mention waiting to see my masterpiece on YouTube. I fear for the reputation of this University among prospective students if your film ever circulates on the internet.
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Post by AustinHoya03 on May 1, 2006 13:33:09 GMT -5
Seriously get over yourselves. Is it a Hollywood film? No. But since Georgetown isn't USC and since the kids involved are largely self-taught using these technologies it's pretty damn good. I'm not sure what you were expecting. I'll admit I don't know much about the movie or the process that led to it's creation, but if you have to say "I'm not sure what you were expecting" about the finished project, perhaps the movie should never have been made at all. Comparing this to early Nodak tracks doesn't make sense to me: Nodak makes his tunes for fun on his own time, whereas GUSA has a commitment to the student body. I will reserve judgment until I know more, but at first glance it appears GUSA did this project to boost some of its members' film school apps, not to benefit the University or its students.
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Post by miamihoya on May 1, 2006 13:49:09 GMT -5
I didnt see the film so I can't judge its content, but I still have trouble believing that GUSA didnt have more pressing issues to spend its time, resources, and money than a film that few students probably viewed. Its things like this (and screwed-up elections) that continue to make GUSA completely irelevant in the eyes of the majority of the student body.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on May 1, 2006 14:00:08 GMT -5
I didnt see the film so I can't judge its content, but I still have trouble believing that GUSA didnt have more pressing issues to spend its time, resources, and money than a film that few students probably viewed. Its things like this (and screwed-up elections) that continue to make GUSA completely irelevant in the eyes of the majority of the student body. Um I can't think of anything more important than making the movie ... oh wait ... someone got SHOT off campus when they were SHOOTING the movie on campus ... oops ...
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Post by nodak89 on May 1, 2006 14:03:02 GMT -5
Seriously get over yourselves. ...... Honestly, the same could have been said for some of Nodak's early tracks -- and Nodak I love your cuts -- but people saw it for what it was. Maybe you should have the same respect for the film. ......... The film was initiated by students, not professionals nor the University. It's fun and it's cheesey. Yup. Sounds like me. Maybe I will get the DVD....
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Post by VelvetElvis on May 1, 2006 14:03:53 GMT -5
Wait? GUSA isn't relevant to the majority of the student body?
Things have certainly changed since I was on campus!
Oh.wait.
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Post by VelvetElvis on May 1, 2006 14:12:18 GMT -5
You want to see doing alot with a little? You want tongue in cheek?? Let me introduce you all to Yacht Rock: tinyurl.com/s5d9jThere are 8 episodes and they are all about 5 minutes long. Episode 2,3 and 8 will change your life!
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Post by saxacalhoya on May 1, 2006 14:12:48 GMT -5
CT--thanks for lumping me into their effort, but I'm not a member of GUSA and was not involved in the making. I simply think the fact that you're taking this so seriously and being so critical is pretty ridiculous. It's your right to criticize, but seriously, respect the other ways that people choose to celebrate the Georgetown community.
And the I have "pride" remark ... do I really need to get into a debate with somebody who is trying to state that their pride is better than somebody else's. By the way, the next time you paint yourself up for a basketball game could you actually use the correct Pantone colors because I hate it when people don't have enough pride in Georgetown to use the correct blue (that goes for the HoyaBlue website as well ... and does anybody use Tripod anymore to host a website).
See how stupid that stuff sounds. It's pretty easy to criticize. But why? I realize that you and the other members on the HOyaTalk Board celebrate Georgetown in certain ways important to them. Maybe in ways that others may even would want to criticize. However, at the end of the day you are making the most out of what Georgetown means to you and the folks who put this film together are doing the same thing. Georgetown's uniqueness is that it can be whatever you make of it. And that is exactly what the efforts of HoyaBlue and the making of the GeorgetownForever movie demonstrates ... that as a member of this community you can make the most out of "your experience" on the HillTop and celebrate what Georgetown means to you.
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Also, I would encourage the other folks that haven't seen it or know about the actual process to learn more before jumping into the fray. Yes, it started out in GUSA but ended up invlolving large amounts of students not normally involved with GUSA. So it actually helped others to get involved in a way that they haven't done in the past. Part of GUSA's charter is to build community amongst the student body and this is done in a variety of ways, along with their work in representing the student body.
The why did they do this versus other things argument ... are you seriously trying to pull that on a campus that is dominated by over-achieveing, multi-tasking students? Folks can focus on more than one thing, that's why they appoint 80+ people to different positions in GUSA. By the way, if you're concerned about safety on and around campus try joining the Student Safety Advisory Board (SSAB) or even taking the survey that GUSA posted on my.georgetown.
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Post by RBHoya on May 1, 2006 14:17:27 GMT -5
Is the only way to see it now going to be purchasing a DVD? Will there be any more on campus screenings (even next year)? I missed it because I worked both Friday and Saturday, and would like to see it at some point, just to know what all the fuss is about.
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Post by TBird41 on May 1, 2006 14:18:57 GMT -5
More concerning is the fact that thousands of dollars went to this movie, which could have been used so many other places where it would make a difference. Now this is money GUSA raised itself, but the fact they choose to spend the money in this fashion is tragic. I'm not going to pass judgement on the film itself, as I haven't seen it. Did I think it was a good idea, or that it had any chance of accomplishing the goals GUSA wanted it to? No. Do I think it has created a better sense of community? Yes, but only b/c everyone has to come together to make fun of it (at least up until the showing). Do I think that GUSA raised the money for the movie itself WITHOUT significantly dipping into its budget. Not if the cost of the movie was what I heard it was. You can't make that kind of money selling t-shirts.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on May 1, 2006 14:27:08 GMT -5
I don't think that criticism of the movie itself is warranted - I actually thought it was pretty good for what it was and what it represented. However, I do think that GUSA might have been the wrong organization to make the movie - I don't understand how that furthered their mission, purpose, or relevance to campus - I think that the previous administration did some great work with Hoya Court, expanding the safe rides program, and working to get Darnall filled. However, you have to ask what else the administration could have accomplished if funding and focus of many of its top members wasn't distracted by the movie project - could some goals have been accomplished earlier?, could some boards of GUSA have been better funded to more effectively accomplish their missions?, could GUSA have more effectively communicated with the student body throughout the last administration and during the election crisis?
I think these things probably could have been accomplished. Part of being a leader is knowing where the organization you represent is headed and how to further its goals through concrete action. GUSA doesn't seem to know where its going, what its mission is, or how to refocus itself - I think the movie is a symptom of this larger problem.
While it is easy to criticize Hoya Blue for not having the right color of blue or whatever - we do know what our mission is and we do take creative and concrete steps to fulfill that mission. I don't think that nitpicking about how scenes were filmed is where the criticism belongs here - its more about what the movie means for GUSA as a whole, its mission, and its direction. I get the argument that GUSA is a big organization - but if so much of its eggs are put into one basket as I understand the movie funding was - it put constraints on what other parts of the organization can do - I personally know that several cabinet level posts and departments were largely inactive during the past administration (several were created only to not be used or discontinued in less than 6 months) and the my.georgetown.edu website was not used effectively or updated frequently - that speaks to a confusion about where GUSA is going, how it can reach out to the University community, and what GUSA's mission is.
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