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Post by guru on May 2, 2006 16:00:22 GMT -5
DID SOMEONE MENTION BALLROOM DANCING?!?!?!?!?!?!
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on May 2, 2006 16:34:26 GMT -5
Geez everyone wants to hard on GUSA, Hoya Blue, et al. for being unprofessional in the way they do things. Exactly how professional do you expect us to be? Its not like every Georgetown Program Board concert is a night with the three tenors - it is what it is - if you don't like it say so politely or better yet don't go or invovle yourself with it. Its really easy to take cheap shots at student-run stuff because we are students - we don't have the expense acounts of holywood execs or professional sports marketing firms - we're lucky to have $3-$10K and what we do with it at times can be a real contribution to campus life. IMHO though the movie distracted many people in GUSA from spending time on the positions that they were elected/appointed to and brought down the quality of student government after GUSA had shown signs of life by delivering on Hoya Court. Many projects that were started by GUSA weren't followed up on or funded - the Freshman gala didn't happen, Our Moment decided not to work with GUSA, the programming department didn't do anything, and safety policy was too slow and reactive. Areas like safety, food choice, communications, and programming could have been followed up on much more effectively if GUSA wasn't distracted from fulfilling its primary role as student government by making the movie.
Having said all that I didn't really care for the ball room dancing routine that occured at halftime of the Rutgers game - just an issue of personal taste.
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Post by Cambridge on May 2, 2006 18:15:22 GMT -5
Unfortunately the movie is bad due to boring, pointless scenes, poor editing, jokes that go on way to long, pointless story lines, and a lack of direction instead of an ineptitude of acting or other components which can come off as unintentionally funny. It does do a good job capturing some scenic parts of Georgetown and does a mediocre job capturing the extra curriculars and other parts of Georgetown which make it such a great institution, so some alumni might enjoy that aspect. So if you want to buy a two and a half hour slide show of parts of Georgetown (in a red filter) it might be passable, but there is almost no redeeming story line and there is an hour stretch which is close to unbearable. Basically what you're saying is it could be recut by an experienced editor and post-producer and salvaged.
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Post by Cambridge on May 2, 2006 18:22:23 GMT -5
Hold on, why is Hoya Blue being dragged into this? This is about SoCalHoya's opinion, it has nothing to do with Hoya Blue. wow and the administration turns on one of its own just like that.
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Post by Cambridge on May 2, 2006 18:25:12 GMT -5
Whatever happened to "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." It's so chic to criticize nowadays . Thank you for your comments, Hoya Blue appreciates all feedback both positive and negative as it helps us produce a better product. We have thoughtfully examined your claims and believe that the color we use to paint our faces is as close to the correct Georgetown colors that the market allows. However if you have any suggestions or ideas we would be glad to hear them so that we can get better colors. You can contact our communications officer in regards to the web site, I am sure he would be interested in your ideas in how to improve it. Once again thank you for the thoughtful criticism as it only makes us stronger, improves our product, and enables us to better serve the Georgetown community. Ya, you definitely missed his point, AND you ripped off SPH's smarmy schtick at the wrong time, AND you didn't do it as well as he does. Triple Whammy! The thing is that talking smack about GUSA and their movie has become "cool" in many circles on campus. There is a lot of groupthink/mob mentality type behavior there, and before you know it people are just insulting them for the sake of it. Half the people don't know a thing I'd bet, but they hear other people doing it and they just pile on. I know less about GUSA than anyone. But I think that a lot of the negative perception about them and their movie on campus are a result of the fact that it's become cool to make jokes about them. And that's fine, if that's how one wants to form opinions. But I think it's important to consider alternative perspectives. Clearly, some, nay, many people liked their movie. Isn't it possible that maybe GUSA and their movie aren't a joke like so many people say? For the record, I see their point, and I think making a movie about the school to show to students definitely could build school spirit. There's a ton of different ways to build school spirit. You can argue they could have thought of better or cheaper ways, but they went with this way and that's that. You can pick at their ideas and their execution all you want, but if you didn't like the movie, isn't it better for all parties involved to just say "whatever" and move on? Any other Exeter alumns out there remember the Exeter Bandit videos before Exeter-Andover? This reminds me of those wonderful, wonderful moments in cinema.
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Post by Cambridge on May 2, 2006 18:27:58 GMT -5
Man, everyone on this board is so damn sensitive. Listen, the movie svcked, Hoya Blue is full of a bunch of circle-jerking nerds, and ballroom dancing is for little fairy boys. Finally, a man who speaks his mind. Huzzah! Long live Bahstin. King amongst men. Tremble before him.
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Post by longislandhoya19 on May 2, 2006 19:12:25 GMT -5
I just didn't really like this movie at all. Besides the obvious fact that GUSA money (and time) should be spent elsewhere, it had a number of flaws and little things that upset me.
The movie just struck me as a buddy project that the whole school was expected to embrace. I didn't like how three of the principal characters were all very close friends of producer Nicholas Murchison (Fabian, Harrington, and Murchison's roommate, Marquis). Also, I thought that the "Saxa Force" subplot, starring producer Slade Smith and writer Drew Rau, certainly could have been cut out. The casting of Smith's younger sister could have been done without, as well. Without pointing fingers, the nearly incestuous casting was detrimental to the quality of the film. Further, the whole concept was just silly. I'm not talking about the idea of universities declaring war on other universities, because obviously that was just a plot device. I mean the absurd characterization of the Ivy League. Sure, it was quasi-entertaining, but it was also juvenile and I thought it made our school look pretty bad. Do we really feel that inferior that we have to portray Ivy League students as being pretentious jackasses concerned only with their blazers and mustaches? In reality, there is very little seperating Georgetown from the Ivy League, except for the fact that the Ivies are more well known and have better reputations. Georgetown has plenty of moneyed, preppy legacies and intellectual snobs, just like the Ivy League does. We just don't have the same size endowment.
A movie that pokes fun at schools that nearly every Hoya applied to and features a protagonist whose blood has an abnormal coloration doesn't raise school spirit. I'm very glad Hoya Blue thought better of getting involved in this project, and I'm similarly grateful that no organization I'm in took part in this movie.
Also, 2 HOURS?! Wasn't that a little bit long?
(Please please don't show this at NSO!)
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Post by CAHoya07 on May 2, 2006 23:05:25 GMT -5
Man, everyone on this board is so damn sensitive. Listen, the movie svcked, Hoya Blue is full of a bunch of circle-jerking nerds, and ballroom dancing is for little fairy boys. We are NOT nerds! Just kidding, kinda. Dairish, good suggestions on the website. I know that the tools are there, but honestly, because of the craziness of basketball season and me taking 5 classes and all, I haven't been able to really look into it. But no doubt I will over the summer once I have some time on my hands, and hopefully we can get a good product out in time for the fall. Like Jersey said, I have no webmastering experience, but I have a passion for this and am willing to learn everything I need to know. I don't want to turn this into an HB website thread, but if you have any more suggestions or want to discuss it further, please start a website thread or PM me.
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Post by SFHoya99 on May 3, 2006 11:18:24 GMT -5
I dislike anything that makes Georgetown look lame.
That includes this movie, GUSA in general, and apparently any Ballroom Dancing / Charlie Daniels combos.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on May 3, 2006 14:20:40 GMT -5
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Post by guru on May 3, 2006 16:29:46 GMT -5
Here's a pull quote for the print ads:
"while not horrific, “Georgetown Forever” will not be winning any Oscars"
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Post by LizziebethHoya on May 4, 2006 11:41:37 GMT -5
So as I was just reading about a Syracuse University plan to begin to take over the entire city, I thought of the plot line for GeorgetownForeverII. As I loved the first movie, I do feel that there should be another one. But this one should focus on our basketball history.
We should go up to Syracuse University and battle it, and of course, win. The movie will end with JTIII saying, "Syracuse University is officially closed."
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on May 4, 2006 11:58:15 GMT -5
I think that the movie should feature 007 strapped with platic explosives running into the middle of an empty Carrier Dome - right before he pushes the button he says "The Carrier Dome is officially closed".
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Post by nodak89 on May 4, 2006 12:37:32 GMT -5
I think that the movie should feature 007 strapped with platic explosives running into the middle of an empty Carrier Dome - right before he pushes the button he says "The Carrier Dome is officially closed". That could be ok, but I think that it should be at a game between Maryland and BC in the Carrier Dome and... [lic] go meoter!!! [/lic] You gotta work in the meteor theme. Somehow an undergrad science major capitilizes on the Nobel-esque new science facilities and diverts the course of a meteor straight at the Carrier Dome. Of course Boe-whine, Gott-dweeb, Feinstein, hifigator Troll-who-must-not-be-named, baseline, Joe-Kim (possibly others) are in attendance.
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Post by VelvetElvis on May 4, 2006 12:42:35 GMT -5
Can Bill Simmons be doing a courtside running diary of the game?
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Post by TBird41 on May 4, 2006 15:49:17 GMT -5
I think that the movie should feature 007 strapped with platic explosives running into the middle of an empty Carrier Dome - right before he pushes the button he says "The Carrier Dome is officially closed". Hmmmm......I thought that was your job. At least it was when Ichiro Hoya came up with that plan. ;D
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on May 4, 2006 16:05:18 GMT -5
Yes I believe it was called "Operation Two Birds One Stone" - I still don't get why that's funny ...
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Post by TBird41 on May 4, 2006 16:19:13 GMT -5
Yes I believe it was called "Operation Two Birds One Stone" - I still don't get why that's funny ... Yeah, me neither....anyway, just wanted to make sure you cited your sources. ;D
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Post by sfsac07 on May 5, 2006 22:49:19 GMT -5
I think that most of the bashing of the movie is centered on a misinformed conception of the role of GUSA in this movie. Through the Spirit Campaign this fall, GUSA raised money through the sale of t-shirts in order to fund new student spirit initiatives on campus. When approached by the people behind Georgetown Forever, GUSA awarded $500 in funding to help with the production of the movie. Later on more money was lent to Georgetown Forever for the production of DVDs, but they have now made well over their initiatial cost. All profits of the movie will be plowed directly back into the Center for Student Programs, SAC, and the other funding boards. In short, the movie boosted school spirit and made money for student groups. It was the most effective use of GUSA money in the three years I've been here.
It's a shame that not everyone could have been at the premiere to see the movie. People were laughing so hard that half of the jokes were missed. The crowd gave the movie's makers a three minute standing applause at the end, an apprecation for the 8 months of hard work it took to make the movie. Sure the lighting was poor, the editing was choppy, and the movie was too long, but some of the jokes were spot-on. Better yet, it gave a glimpse of the things that makes Georgetown unique and special. Several people I know who saw the movie testified to their increased school spirit by finally learning the fight song and singing it around campus.
GUSA was lambasted more than any other group in the movie. The producers and actors of the movie were completely independent from GUSA. While some of them knew each other, most of the cast and crew came from all classes and all backgrounds, from semi-professional actors to DPS officers.
The movie is currently on sale at Vital Vittles. I urge the haters to check out the movie first and criticize later. Sure there are a lot of problems with it, but the net result is overwhelmingly positive. For you doubters, you can ask Roy. He was front row at the premier, and from the looks of it, seemed to enjoy the movie as much as the rest of us.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on May 6, 2006 15:20:08 GMT -5
All profits of the movie will be plowed directly back into the Center for Student Programs, SAC, and the other funding boards. Well now I have something else to be upset about regarding the movie ...
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