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Post by jctnhoya4ever on Feb 25, 2012 20:09:54 GMT -5
Does anyone know why Starks did not play this game,is he suspended or I'll,or hurt? Thanks. Go hoyas!!! Take some time to watch the post game press conference, linked here.
Also take some time to read the game thread, starting here.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 25, 2012 20:15:51 GMT -5
Sh-t house!
From ESPN.com:
Asked why Starks was benched Saturday, Thompson: "I just wanted to start Otto and not play Starks." The coach declined to elaborate, other than to confirm that Starks is healthy. Asked if Starks will play Monday against Notre Dame (No. 18 ESPN/USA Today, No. 20 AP), Thompson said: "We'll see."
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Post by sleepy on Feb 25, 2012 20:35:57 GMT -5
a follow up asked if it had anything to do with the end of game on tuesday and Thompson again,"I just wanted to start Otto and not play Starks."
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Post by mfk24 on Feb 25, 2012 20:38:10 GMT -5
Yeah, but we all know JTIII isn't going to come out and say that Starks is in the dog house.
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Post by unclebeets on Feb 25, 2012 20:50:26 GMT -5
Yeah, but we all know JTIII isn't going to come out and say that Starks is in the dog house. Like father, like son. Unfortunately, the same appears to be true of Pat Knight. |
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Feb 25, 2012 21:00:10 GMT -5
What do you mean by unfortunately?
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 25, 2012 21:23:43 GMT -5
markel was slapping and cheering and i thinks hell play vs nd and learned his lesson what ever the heck that was but will play but what do i know GO HOYAS BEAT NOTRE DAME OUR TIME ITS FEBRUARY ps markel is a firey competitor and will be back maybe with some good shooting too. go hoyas
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 25, 2012 22:02:42 GMT -5
For having just experienced his first DNP this year, markel was upbeat and kept it positive.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2012 22:07:59 GMT -5
Props to Markel for handling whatever the situation is like an adult.. The kid was totally engaged from tip to finish, cheering on his teammates, adding his input etc…. It was great to see.. IMO
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Post by tashoya on Feb 25, 2012 22:50:13 GMT -5
As long as Markel hasn't done anything that's a violation of NCAA rules, it should absolutely be kept in house regardless of how curious us as fans may be. Why in the world would you share that with the media if all that is needed is for JT3 to make a point to a player that will, hopefully, help him in the long term? There's nothing unfortunate about it. It's called respect for your players as individuals and your team as a unit. I'm glad that JT3 was clear that Markel is healthy but that he was benched for the game because coach decided to bench him. End of story. Handled well as always.
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Post by deacon on Feb 25, 2012 23:14:14 GMT -5
What do you mean by unfortunately? I don't think he was taking a shot at Big John, but one at Bob Knight. |
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Post by RDF on Feb 26, 2012 0:21:13 GMT -5
First off--Pat Knight was 100% correct for saying what he said and how he said it. Those players wanted to take a dump on the entire program--they can at least be called out for it.
As for handling of Starks--BRAVO III! Thank you for making accountability in the program matter again. He wanted to be "big time" the other night and not listen--he can sit his ass the rest of the season. Georgetown is a better team without him on the court to this point and they don't need him. If he wants to step it up and join the team on the court--then maybe he needs to look at his defense and realize it would dramatically help the team's chances if he could take on responsibility of checking the opposing PG.
Thank you III and Starks can be recruited over if he wants to be pulling crap like he did the other night.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Feb 26, 2012 1:41:30 GMT -5
First off--Pat Knight was 100% correct for saying what he said and how he said it. Those players wanted to take a dump on the entire program--they can at least be called out for it. As for handling of Starks--BRAVO III! Thank you for making accountability in the program matter again. He wanted to be "big time" the other night and not listen--he can sit his ass the rest of the season. Georgetown is a better team without him on the court to this point and they don't need him. If he wants to step it up and join the team on the court--then maybe he needs to look at his defense and realize it would dramatically help the team's chances if he could take on responsibility of checking the opposing PG. Thank you III and Starks can be recruited over if he wants to be pulling crap like he did the other night. Pulling crap? What crap? I think in a 3 pt shooting contest Markel would be the best on our team. He just needs to work on his shot selection and he loves to take heat check shots. He's a solid guard still learning to adjust to defenses that know exactly how to play you. In Maui some analysts thought he played as well as any PG in the tourney. He basically won Louisville for us, but oh how quickly people forget. Look im not saying you have to love the guy, but he deserves better than fans clamoring for him to be recruited over especially after the class he displayed today. I know he is hungry to be great and that he will take this as a learning experience and bounce. |
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Post by RDF on Feb 26, 2012 3:03:17 GMT -5
First off--Pat Knight was 100% correct for saying what he said and how he said it. Those players wanted to take a dump on the entire program--they can at least be called out for it. As for handling of Starks--BRAVO III! Thank you for making accountability in the program matter again. He wanted to be "big time" the other night and not listen--he can sit his ass the rest of the season. Georgetown is a better team without him on the court to this point and they don't need him. If he wants to step it up and join the team on the court--then maybe he needs to look at his defense and realize it would dramatically help the team's chances if he could take on responsibility of checking the opposing PG. Thank you III and Starks can be recruited over if he wants to be pulling crap like he did the other night. Pulling crap? What crap? I think in a 3 pt shooting contest Markel would be the best on our team. He just needs to work on his shot selection and he loves to take heat check shots. He's a solid guard still learning to adjust to defenses that know exactly how to play you. In Maui some analysts thought he played as well as any PG in the tourney. He basically won Louisville for us, but oh how quickly people forget. Look im not saying you have to love the guy, but he deserves better than fans clamoring for him to be recruited over especially after the class he displayed today. I know he is hungry to be great and that he will take this as a learning experience and bounce. He's a starter who has underperformed majority of the season. Aside from 2nd Half of Louisville game and 2nd Half of SJU game in DC--he's been substandard. He doesn't handle pressure well at all. He doesn't defend opposing point guards at all. He's an average/bad defensive player and looks to pass ball like it's hot potato when team is pressured. He's been given entire year and his response--walk off the court when told NOT to. Yeah--he's on right path to being great. I'd settle for him being good at handling pressure and defending opposing point guards. To say he'd win a 3pt shooting contest? First of all-who gives a damn about that-make them in a game. I also don't think he would-I'll take the guy who leads conference in 3pt shooting and his teammate Hollis Thompson if we're putting money down on that. Hollis might not be a Lottery Pick/1st Round material but his off games would be considered a breakthrough for Starks. Just love that III quit coddling him. Enough with that garbage. It didn't work with last group and it doesn't need to take place seeing that team is deep and has a lot of personnel that will listen and do what is asked. I've seen 2 games without him and liked both--DePaul was best offensive output in conference play and Hoyas faced fullcourt pressure all game, and against Nova--they were moving at a quicker pace/better tempo and played hard entire game. Guards were defended and team got off to quick starts in both games. Now maybe that's a coincidence and due to playing bad teams--but only quick start I remember Hoyas getting out to with Starks is Providence and they aren't lighting world on fire either. Program is an elite pg away from taking next step. If that's Markel-he's got some games to show that. It's about same time in Charles Smith career that Pops told him he can either step it up or he'll be recruited over--and he responded. Maybe Markel will and hope that's case--but don't have time for a player not listening. It's about the team and not him. |
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Post by sleepy on Feb 26, 2012 3:29:59 GMT -5
Well, I'd say it's a little short sighted to say we don't need Markel the rest of the season. In a single game we may be able to survive without him(and that can be said of my players on this team btw) , however we need the depth he provides in the back court. Without Markel, Jason is the only guard capable of initiating/running the offense and he cannot play 33+ and be expected to be the primary ball handler, strong perimeter defender, and threat from deep as well. We need Markel other wise Jason is going to wiped out with 5 minutes left and unable to find legs in his shot and hit the open ones. So yea, while Markel hasn't been that good and needs to improve, we still need the depth he provides in the back court if we want to finish the season strong.
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Post by seaweed on Feb 26, 2012 8:20:03 GMT -5
DNP-Coach's Decision. End of story
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 26, 2012 8:54:24 GMT -5
i like markel great kid fastest guy on the team and he WILL be good., end of my story. go hoyas nuf said  |
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 26, 2012 9:10:36 GMT -5
I for one like the new starting line up. We have enough good ball handlers on the team where we don't miss him. Would rather see jabril get more play like he did yesterday and see markel get spot minutes for now.
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Post by RDF on Feb 26, 2012 12:35:24 GMT -5
Bigger question isn't if Starks gets his old job back--it's what does he need to do to beat out Jabril who I thought was excellent yesterday--and has been most of the year. Starks deserves credit for 2nd Half against Louisville but it was Jabril who got team into that game when they were sleep walking in First Half--he came in, was assertive/aggressive, got some hoops, got to the FT line-(I dont' think there is any question he's the best Hoya under III in terms of drawing fouls on opponents/driving to basket and he's only a FR--wait until he improves) and he DEFENDS like a pitbull. Trawick doesn't care if he's liked by everyone and instead of a fake smile to act like he's calm on the court--he's jawing and sneering and knows he's belongs--which is the refreshing part of the Frosh class--they don't care about reputation/rankings or hype--they go out and try to bust people's ass all game. Whittington was in defensive stance/smiling/talking at Ty Johnson and Johnson got so rattled he threw the ball away. Trawick was not friendly with Johnson. Trawick smacked Cheek around in loose ball scramble and it's been lacking around this program since PE Jr left-guys who are willing to do little things that make team better--and know what team needs on given night--might be scoring, hustle plays, hard foul, etc.....and I'll take that basketball IQ mixed with defensive intensity/athleticism over the scattered shooting, guard who chooses to ignore what coach says with 3 games left in regular season when that coach has given him a pass for his substandard play.
Starks has to beat Jabril out and play harder/better to get some minutes--not worry about getting his "Spot" back.
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Post by unclebeets on Feb 26, 2012 13:20:45 GMT -5
What do you mean by unfortunately? I don't think he was taking a shot at Big John, but one at Bob Knight. That's right -- thanks Deacon. I was just noting that JT II would have handled it the same way with the media (but can you imagine Big John's reaction -- Vesuvius II). As for PK, it's fair enough for him to call out his team when they go stinkeroo. But his casual reference to "drugs" during a post-game press conference is not the mark of a professional person. And if he's going to take those kinds of liberties, he should at least win a few more games first. |
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