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Post by Elvado on Mar 31, 2024 11:12:22 GMT -5
The false metropolis continues to erode…
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Post by Elvado on Mar 30, 2024 8:37:24 GMT -5
4. Forty years ago this weekend, some of us were having the time of our lives. To some at Georgetown today, it's like it never happened.
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Father Healy buying everyone’s drinks after the Final is arguably the last decision to come out out of 2nd Healy that benefitted Georgetown Basketball fans…
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Post by Elvado on Mar 29, 2024 17:08:52 GMT -5
So here we are, approaching the end of another week with still no clarity on filling the assistant vacancy and at least 1 other open position. Yes, the staff needs to tread carefully and take a lot into consideration before making a decision. But at some point, inaction becomes the enemy of progress. Seeing numbers being thrown around for players I would have hoped we would have at least thrown our hat into the ring for by now (but haven't) and programs we are looking to chase down in terms of competitiveness already make moves/offers for those very same players is not really instilling much confidence that, at the current pace our offseason planning is going, we are going to be able to add enough to put together a quality team next season. Cooley was hired on March 20 and many have said how that was such a late start and how he was so disadvantaged because of it. That's why this year was such a failure. It's now 9 days after that this year and I think people should realize how silly that was especially considering he brought much of his staff with him. That said we really never got coaching announcements last year and the first big 3 transfers all announced on the same day or close to it last year and that was in early April. Maybe there is already a lot of pieces lined up and the incredible Georgetown PR department is holding all the news for one big splash. I wouldn't put anything past them. They may just be waiting for Ronnie’s okay on the press release announcing his triumphant return….
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Post by Elvado on Mar 28, 2024 7:43:47 GMT -5
Might be off topic but if we are picking out strategic/lineup flaws in games where the Coach is advancing to the second weekend of the tournament, wouldn’t every Hoya fan give their left nut for that kind of problem?
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Post by Elvado on Mar 27, 2024 14:04:58 GMT -5
Fordham tops that as well.
GU is not far off.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 25, 2024 19:49:34 GMT -5
NJ Democratic machine fails in backing erstwhile Republican. Tammy Murphy, wife of New Jersey governor, drops out of U.S. Senate race Murphy grew up a Republican and had made large donations to George W. Bush’s presidential campaigns, but had earned the support of many establishment Democrats in the state. Kim had been consolidating support from grass-roots Democrats. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/03/24/murphy-senate-new-jersey-dropout/Haven't really been following this, but if she and Menendez are both out, who is left? Likely Andy Kim.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 25, 2024 17:38:30 GMT -5
Shohei Ohtani — the Los Angeles Dodgers superstar whose interpreter was fired last week amid allegations of gambling and theft — addressed the scandal Monday, saying he was “very saddened and shocked that someone who I have trusted has done this.” His comments on Monday came days after the Dodgers fired Ippei Mizuhara, Ohtani’s longtime friend and interpreter, amid allegations that Mizuhara stole millions from Ohtani to cover gambling debts. Ohtani didn’t personally discuss on the scandal as it unfolded, though his representatives claimed he had been the victim of a “massive theft.” On Monday, he said, “Ippei has been stealing money from my account and has told lies.” “I’m just beyond shocked, it’s really hard to verbalize how I’m feeling at this point,” he said through an interpreter. www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/03/25/ohtani-press-conference-interpreter-scandal/I believe none of this. Not one word. No bookie is letting that guy run up that debt.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 25, 2024 9:27:43 GMT -5
I have a different take which is highly summarized below. The landscape changed massively. In the 80s, the Hoyas were a cultural phenomenon and we were in the flow of top level recruits. You look at where our players stood in the rankings, and we were consistently getting Top 50 guys. It is easier to win when you have a lot more talent than your opponents especially back then. Since then, the overall talent level has deepened allowing more programs to compete. There was a time when the bluebloods ALWAYS made the tournament. Now we see bluebloods miss the tournament more than infrequently. A team like FGCU or FAU never had a chance in the early 90s. JTjr lost his hunger and appetite for recruiting in the late 90s while everything was going on personally. Esherick wasn’t the leader that JTjr was despite being an outstanding evaluator and recruiter - Sweetney, Green, Hibbert. When results started falling off, the community did NOT have the love for him that would have given him patience. With Green and Hibbert who were his recruits, he would have had success in the years following his departure though perhaps not at the same level. JT3 brought an innovative style to big time college basketball and he had some success, but then the rules changed changing the amount of physical contact allowed. JT3 was slow to adapt. Meanwhile, JT3 didn’t expect much his PGs, and the game started drifting towards a guard oriented game where elite guard talents were victorious. JT3 was a victim of his own success and his inability to adapt to changing times regarding the rules and how the game was played. Ewing was a Hail Mary to stay in the Thompson family. Though beloved at Georgetown, he was not effective at leadership or developing talent. At times, he had enough talent to win, but the teams would implode from his inability to keep the whole thing together and keep a group of young men on the straight and narrow. In retrospect, the evidence is clearly there that his coaching skills were below those of his competition. And it played out as the worst case scenario when he was hired. Cooley returns with Georgetown out of the flow of top recruits. Fans get geeked out now over Top 100-150 players that 30 years ago would hardly deserve a mention. Cooley has a strong leadership narrative and we will have to wait and see if he can make that story come true. Cooley is clearly well connected and well liked. Hopefully, that will help him make up the talent deficit that the Hoyas have continued to have. I am optimistic that we will return to the days of annual tournament visits almost every year. From your mouth to God’s ears…
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Post by Elvado on Mar 25, 2024 9:05:14 GMT -5
The 80’s and early 90’s were great, the problem was John Thompson got older, was going through a divorce, recruiting was more labor intensive, so we took a step back. We allowed Craig Eshericn to have a few years and although the talent level stayed low, we played hard Hoya ball. So then we made a change, JT 3, overall I think that was a success until the last few years, he tried to adapt to the changing game but I think in the end, he’s glad he got out. Yes, I also know sone will only remember the embarrassing 1st round loses in the NCAA’s, but we are a perennial top 20 Team, a change was needed and we made. Then came Ewing, we can debate was it worth a shot, but ultimately was a disaster. I ultimately think Ewing never wanted the job but thought the experience would get him and NBA JOB. Let’s just move on, we got that wrong. Now Cooley, time will tell, experience has shown he’s a good coach, he will win, get us in the tournament but can he win us a championship? Let’s give this a change, with a few right choices, we can be a tournament team next year, RELAX In retrospect, hiring Patrick was not worth the shot. Sadly, it was a basketball disaster. Almost makes one wonder why he never got a shot at a head job after 15 years as an assistant…
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Post by Elvado on Mar 25, 2024 8:31:04 GMT -5
Agreed, let’s get the right mix of talent, old and young, to where we are top 4 in the big East and dancing mostly every year. I was thinking about the 80s, we had only 1 title but had 3 final fours, 2 final 8’s, and make tournament every year. That’s what success looks like to ANY program. WE WILL GET THERE Thinking about the 80s is what got us into this position. It was fun and all - but it was also nearly half a century ago. Looking back, it’s hard not to be angry about the coaching search in 2017. JT Jr., enabled by DeGoia, basically nailed the coffin shut on our program with the Ewing hire. And it hurts even more that coaches like Hurley and Smart were available and we didn’t even give them a look. Georgetown basketball was built by - and demolished by - the same man. Now he’s gone, and the program is destroyed with no clear path back to respectability. It almost sounds like that builder/destroyer was a control freak/megalomaniac who never wanted anyone to surpass his accomplishments and thus sabotaged the whole operation, save for creating generational wealth in his immediate/extended family. Thinking about the 80’s is not the problem. Living in the 80’s onthe other hand…
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Post by Elvado on Mar 25, 2024 7:39:42 GMT -5
Sadly, the current state of our program has almost completely destroyed my interest in the tournament.
A classmate and I were texting about how in the ‘80s 37th and O was the epicenter of college basketball.
I feel terrible for the kids who have never experienced what it means for GU basketball to matter, nationally.
40 years out from our 1 title and we are nothing but a cautionary tale and a punchline.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 24, 2024 3:54:55 GMT -5
Could not happen for a better, more deserving player. He has persevered through injury, mistreatment by management and many other challenges to continue playing at a high level. Bravo Josh!!
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Post by Elvado on Mar 23, 2024 5:36:10 GMT -5
Most of those are a lot better than mid-major programs that some people have said this past week are Rowan’s ceiling… Why do I see him going to Nova and torturing us as he develops?
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Post by Elvado on Mar 22, 2024 7:58:41 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Mar 22, 2024 7:04:30 GMT -5
Gohlke from Oakland is on my portal wish list. If for no other reason than the faces he made post game…
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Post by Elvado on Mar 22, 2024 6:50:07 GMT -5
His $250,000 per year translator was able to run up $4.5 MM in markers?
Good one.
Reds and Phillies fans should get ready to welcome Pete Rose to Cooperstown after MLB buries this one….
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Post by Elvado on Mar 21, 2024 13:21:35 GMT -5
Dan: That can be hard because how many ways can you say debacle? One post for each way would seem sufficient. Fair enough, I’ll play. Dumpster Fire
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Post by Elvado on Mar 21, 2024 13:18:17 GMT -5
Should we create a thread for those wishing to debate the plus / minus of the current St Johns coach? Because this thread is about the current state of the Georgetown basketball program. Pick a different venue to argue about somebody else's coach please. Dan: That can be hard because how many ways can you say debacle?
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Post by Elvado on Mar 21, 2024 6:54:20 GMT -5
So we’re pulling up tweets from 6 years ago when the rules (at least on the surface) were quite literally 180 degrees from where we are now? Let’s be honest. It’s an arms race now. Unless someone can find the magic Billy Beane of a coach who can spend $500k on NIL and build a tournament team, the pearl clutching needs to stop. also this “Georgetown has $5-6 mm in NIL to spend” is the most ridiculous game of Telephone ever … Imagine what we would have to spend if not for that 2021 extension… I hope this trainwreck gets cleaned up and we can again be a competitive program at the highest level which brings pride to the University community. Bringing in NCAA sanctioned retreads is only one of the reasons I have almost zero confidence in that renaissance.
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