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Post by augustusfinknottle on Feb 21, 2020 10:35:19 GMT -5
With that said, I think the admin will definitely give Ewing 5 years and that puts us right at the 2022 NCAAs. That is a long drought. Perhaps the only way I would not see things pessimistically is if there were clear signals of sustained success on the horizon. Kevin Willard did not make the NCAAs until year 6, while it is admirable that SHU could be that patient, I just do not feel GU should be. We should have higher expectations of this program. And then what? Does a first round NCAA loss reset the clock for another five years? Ewing is not the problem here, it's bigger than that. The problem is that the highest levels of the University understand an inconvenient truth that many fans pay no attention to--the Georgetown basketball model is not sustainable at the present level of performance. In the most recent public reports, Georgetown had the ninth highest basketball budget of 351 schools, nearly $1M more than Kansas, $3M more than North Carolina, and nearly $5M more than Xavier. And while Georgetown keeps other men's sports on a strict diet to keep basketball's plate full, the results aren't there. One NCAA tournament in eight years. Eighth of ten Big East teams in attendance, no matter how you count it. A continual decline in licensing royalties as would be expected for a team that many recruits have no memory of its prior success. Maybe Seton Hall was patient with Willard because they spend nearly half as much as what GU does, or maybe it's that the SHU job wasn't that much in demand. Saturday's game with DePaul, easily the most dysfunctional program in major college basketball, is Ewing's 90th game as a coach. Here's how his record stacks up against his recent predecessors through 89 games: Craig Esherick: 55-34, 22-24 Big East, 1 NCAA bid, 2 NIT John Thompson III: 61-28, 28-17 Big East, 2 NCAA bids, 1 NIT Patrick Ewing: 49-40, 19-30 Big East, 0 NCAA, 1 NIT Patrick Ewing wasn't hired out of some sort of fear of John Thompson. He was hired to kick-start the program and align it to where it ought to have been at the 2013 realignment (read=where Villanova is now). Remember when Georgetown was a regular Top 20 entrant? When it was Top 10? When it was a #1 or #2 seed in the Big East tournament, and you already penciled in a Friday night doubleheader at the Garden and were checking air fares for the first and second rounds because you just knew they'd be there? Yes, that seems like long time ago. And it is. Every Big East team except DePaul and Georgetown has been ranked nationally in the last five years, and every one other than those two has earned an NCAA bid. Ewing still has the institutional support to do so. But saying he has five years or six years or even 10 years to get an NCAA bid misses the point. If Georgetown is spending like a Final Four contender with NIT results on a consistent basis, it's not a sustainable business model. One NCAA bid and a Tuesday game in Dayton doesn't mean it's mission accomplished. Either this team has to get much better across the board to justify the investment that it currently enjoys and start delivering on that investment, or you're asking to Georgetown to consider resetting the expectations that men's basketball can aspire to be good, but never great, going forward. Very interesting and eye opening. Please explain how it is that we are spending to this extreme. I honestly don't get it. |
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Feb 20, 2020 16:25:39 GMT -5
Rick Neuheisel said on the radio today (vis a vis football but it would still apply) "It's not the guys you don't get (which hurts you in recruiting) it's the guys you do get who can't play" or play at a high enough level. I thought that was interesting.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Feb 19, 2020 13:27:19 GMT -5
Who's our 1 in a box and 1? Pickett?
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Feb 16, 2020 20:12:32 GMT -5
Providence has split with every Big East foe they’ve played twice. Let’s hope that trend holds.*
*Until Wednesday; after that they can lose the rest.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Feb 15, 2020 20:38:47 GMT -5
Loved everything but the Bryant patch.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Feb 3, 2020 12:22:10 GMT -5
I ask this ingenuously. It has been some time since I graduated. The above comports with both my experience and what I have always believed; that the academic expectations for scholarship athletes (read basketball) do not differ greatly from those for the student body at large. Yet things I have read recently on these boards lead me to wonder if I'm being a little naive. What is the reality today? Someone correct me if I'm wrong but can't the staff use a different admissions standard for athletes than regular students? It's no secret that admissions standards are different. (Most applicants with two felonies in their jacket wouldn't stand a chance). I'm talking about what is expected of them once they're in. |
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Feb 3, 2020 8:15:59 GMT -5
So what exactly is the point you are trying to make? If the kid isn't on the take then what difference does it make if the school is willing to pay? Because I guarantee that Shareef has a card with a big enough limit to show himself a great time around campus.... Schools like LSu, Zona, UCLA have a different school and academic standard for their athletes. Those schools offer the type of benefit Georgetown can’t; not just monetarily but lax rules and pretend schooling. It’s a different environment and one you won’t get at Georgetown. I ask this ingenuously. It has been some time since I graduated. The above comports with both my experience and what I have always believed; that the academic expectations for scholarship athletes (read basketball) do not differ greatly from those for the student body at large. Yet things I have read recently on these boards lead me to wonder if I'm being a little naive. What is the reality today? |
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Feb 2, 2020 16:31:31 GMT -5
Gotta like Mosely sprinting toward the fracas.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Feb 2, 2020 13:08:05 GMT -5
No Mac. No shot.
Proud to eat crow on that one. Gutcheck win!
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Feb 1, 2020 11:35:45 GMT -5
I am by no means saying it can not be turned around. I am saying that on the current trajectory that will not happen. It is more likely to get worse. Then why are you wasting time here? Surely someone as talented as you has a better use of his time. By all means keep your head in the sand. You're certainly entitled. And you may be on to something. It does seem that many are taking your suggestion. There has been noticeably less activity on Hoya Talk. |
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Feb 1, 2020 10:53:38 GMT -5
I am by no means saying it can not be turned around. I am saying that on the current trajectory that will not happen. It is more likely to get worse.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Feb 1, 2020 9:55:23 GMT -5
Let's be real. We are not getting players who are good enough to make us even competitive in this league much less restore us to what most of us here, I think, believe is our rightful place at the top. From here this program looks to be in serious, serious, trouble. One person's opinion.
To quote the Mrs. "I just had to vent". I feel better now. My opinion, however, has not changed.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Jan 24, 2020 8:48:05 GMT -5
Walton is absolutely brutal. Unlistenable. |
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Jan 11, 2020 12:11:00 GMT -5
Why do we insist upon giving up the baseline?
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Jan 9, 2020 19:28:52 GMT -5
Shot Fake U.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Jan 9, 2020 8:56:23 GMT -5
No doubt he has been told, for a long time, "You have to be stronger with the ball". For whatever reason he is not able to do it. Surely he's tried but it's more than a "mind set" thing. In large part it's raw strength.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Dec 30, 2019 20:00:50 GMT -5
Per Instagram Stories, he'll be announcing his next school tomorrow-12/31/19.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Dec 29, 2019 7:58:35 GMT -5
The modifier used was "great". The decision to characterize any player's hands as "great" on a 12 minute body of work not devoid of turnovers is optimistic at best. To take exception to that characterization hardly qualifies as disparaging the player. That is a great post. I get it. |
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Dec 28, 2019 20:58:17 GMT -5
The modifier used was "great". The decision to characterize any player's hands as "great" on a 12 minute body of work not devoid of turnovers is optimistic at best. To take exception to that characterization hardly qualifies as disparaging the player.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Dec 28, 2019 20:23:45 GMT -5
I fear I must throw the challenge flag on "great hands".
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