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Post by smittydakid on Feb 14, 2010 18:49:45 GMT -5
Jt 3 develops players but only to fit his system. He never exploits mismatches. If we have an advantage down low he won't use it to our advantage. JT 3 doesn't use big man very well. (hibbert,Monroe). They are on the perimenter too often. Which doesn't utilize there strengths. Monroe gets a layup with ease, next possesion we take a nba three. Doesn't make sense. Call a timeout and get the ball to Monroe, period! It's coaching!
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Post by smittydakid on Mar 30, 2009 16:07:46 GMT -5
I understand your point of Roy,Jeff. They left here better than they came. But are you giving all the credit to the system. Jeff thrived in the system, he made it go. Everybody can't run the system like Jeff,Jon w, PEjr. One year without them and were terrible. As a coach you have to coach to players strengths. I just think the princeton system can't be your primary set. I think it stifles your own players and it's hard to come back if were down late. You do need luck to win championships but if you have enough talent year after year you'll win it. (NC,Kansas)Hell we were lucky to make it to the final four.(BC,Vandy,NC game losing all in the 2nd half)If we would have kept Roy on the block his senior year, he would have been dominate. I do respect your opinion because i can tell you know b-ball.
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Post by smittydakid on Mar 30, 2009 15:26:16 GMT -5
My problem is the system makes the players less aggressive. Another problem is the team is not tough enough, every player was the same. Plus, if you recuit just for the system too many good players will be bypassed. We can win games with this system but I don't think we can win championships. Plus don't you need a couple of NBA bound players to win the championship?
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Post by smittydakid on Mar 30, 2009 14:54:22 GMT -5
Ok, but the original question is who would you play for? I'm saying kids are picking nc.mem,lou, etc because of there style. The reason they have better talent is because kids are picking there school over other schools. i never said Roy W. was a great coach but he doesn't overcoach. Although, we beat them a couple a of years ago, do you really think JT3 out coached him. Didn't they go dead cold for the last 5 minutes and overtime. Not taking anything away from us, but I think that's why we won.
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Post by smittydakid on Mar 30, 2009 13:07:51 GMT -5
I think recruiting will get harder if JT3 continues with this system. Because every player can't play into this system. It's like having a pocket qb running the option. It won't work. Plus, a lot of players don't want to pass and cut before looking to score. I would bet that our system can't help us in getting recruits.
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Post by smittydakid on Mar 30, 2009 12:59:55 GMT -5
Why is nc an atrocious team? They don't play d but they pass better than we do. Lawson runs that team like a general. Yes, they have freedom but it works for them. It's better than running the clock down and missing a three. There style is part of the reason they get the top recruits. Plus, how does going to G-town make you a better player or man than NC,u Conn,Kansas. I love G-town but I can be objective when talking about them.
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Post by smittydakid on Mar 29, 2009 18:40:06 GMT -5
Very good points! But even if a player didn't want to go to the pros. Why G-town? The program is not top 5 this decade. They don't play exciting ball. THey don't run. What about G-town's system, would make a top recuit say, I want to play for that team. I think this is a great question. And it makes one realize what recruits really think. Of course, most of us would probably say G-town. But as a recruit? I think most recruits, since the beginning of time want to play in the pros. In this case, the NBA. And they look at what colleges put players in the pros, particularly at their respective position. putting myself in the eyes of top-ranked recruit.. If i was a wing-player/2-guard, i would seriously consider UCONN - Ray Allen, Rip Hamilton, Donyell Marshall, Caron Butler, Ben Gordon, Rudy Gay If i was a Center...i would seriously look at G-town of course. If i was thinking about my pro prospects i would seriously look at schools coached by Roy Williams and Rick Pitino. Thats what most kids think about...NBA. some may say academics, but they are lying. They are thinking pros all-day. I mean, look at some of our former players who were great students, like Boumje-Boumje and Jon Wallace. They are still playing overseas in the pros. In a perfect world, a recruit should look at how a players at said school develop as men and as basketball players, and if they are prepared for the pros...in the workforce. If JT2 were still coaching, i would play for him in a heartbeat. If you bought in to what he was doing with the program, you would make it out as a man. I woulda played for Bob Knight and Coach K too. Their players graduated, and they cared about your development as a man, not just a basketball player. That isn't exactly an answer i guess...lol In 2009, i thought i would say JTIII in a heartbeat, but i'm not sure if i would. I respect III as a coach, and i think he is the best out there. But i don't think i would play for him as a top recruit. Its just something about III that i can't put my finger on. I don't get the same vibe with him that i did with his Dad when he was coaching. I don't think III would be for me as a player. As opposed to his Dad, i would sign a letter of intent in a heartbeat, no matter what top school was offering. If i had to pick one coach today? It would be probably be Coach K.
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Post by smittydakid on Mar 29, 2009 18:35:51 GMT -5
That was the article I was referring to. Thanks for posting it. With our pass first style, it will only get harder to recuit.
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Post by smittydakid on Mar 29, 2009 13:39:32 GMT -5
Why is the post dumb? Just opinion!
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Post by smittydakid on Mar 29, 2009 13:20:17 GMT -5
I would pick Memphis,louisville,nc. They all play exciting ball and well coached. G-town is my favorite team but i understand why kids wouldn't go there. G-town's style isn't ideal for a player of this era. JT3 system will eventually catch up too us, in recuiting top players. i saw a article that said the offense doesn't help getting top players.
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Post by smittydakid on Feb 24, 2009 13:02:51 GMT -5
what's funny how announcers take subliminal shots at the offense. Len Elmore did it numerous times. Who ever did the South F. game said G-town is more interested in passing than scoring.
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Post by smittydakid on Feb 24, 2009 12:53:07 GMT -5
This thread has some valiant points. As a coach it's probably easier to teach certain players a system. Every player isn't made for every system. Iverson wouldn't be as effect in this system. Cause this team sets up more and we don't press. The team has a lot of flaws and terribly constructed.
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Nikita
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Post by smittydakid on Feb 24, 2009 12:48:09 GMT -5
Nikita defense is too bad to play a lot of minutes. Our team is terrible and he's the worst. His feet are too slow to watch anybody. JT3 has to pick his spots to play him. Sims has more upside, so play him more. It can't get much worse? Can it?
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Post by smittydakid on Feb 16, 2009 17:23:51 GMT -5
I'm a new poster and i'm a fan just like everybody else on this board. The reason it seems like were bashing the team because were frustrated about losing. I found out about this board in the summer. It has nothing to do with how much i like the team. Why if you bash the Offense you have know basketball I Q? I think Offense is a problem just like rebounding,turnover and defensive. But to say the "O" is'nt a problem is incorrect.
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Post by smittydakid on Feb 14, 2009 16:15:20 GMT -5
Yea JT3 is a better coach than Esh but his system lulls us to sleep. We turn the ball over a lot in this system anyway. Do you really think the system made Hibbert a better player? The coach did develop him but it wasn't the system. Good point on C. Wright he was a top recuit. But didn't he enroll somewhere else first? With all this praise to the Prinction offensive you would think Kansas,Florida,nc,Cuse ran it when the won the Championship.
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Post by smittydakid on Feb 14, 2009 15:54:40 GMT -5
We don't have great guards or post men. Out whole team is bad defensively. Our guards shoot below average from 3 and we can't rebound. That's a bad combintation.
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Post by smittydakid on Feb 14, 2009 15:51:35 GMT -5
Jeff Green is a great player no doubt but does that mean it doesn't hold players back. Honestly, Hibbert could have been better if we didn't have him at the top of the key. You can't stay aggressive with the princeton offensive. It's based on passing and cutting. If your first thought is to pass you won't stay aggressive. With this offensive we will never get a top guard like, D. Rose, Lawson, J. Flynn.
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Post by smittydakid on Feb 14, 2009 15:30:34 GMT -5
I don't like the Princeton offensive because i think it holds individuals back. It makes us less instinctive. Sometimes G-town looks like robots out there. It gives the coach more control and JT3 likes that. When we came back, it because we were driving to the hoop and kicking it out for three. The Princeton offensive works better with non-athletes. If you were a great high school player would you want to run that offensive.
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Post by smittydakid on Feb 14, 2009 15:24:49 GMT -5
It should be something to build on but i don't think it will. In the second half we played more aggressive offensively, taking to the hoop strong. But the way the systems works, it will make us less aggresive next game. But at least we showed argency for the first time this year.
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JTIII
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Post by smittydakid on Jan 25, 2009 17:50:22 GMT -5
Get Monroe the ball in the block. JT3 doesn't stress that to the team. JT3 seems to want the team to pass the ball and run the o, more than score. This O gives him control but it makes the team robots. We don't even press when were losing late in the game.(Coaching) Struggling at inbounding the ball.(coaching) When we break the press, we don't go to score.(coaching) This is easily his worst coaching job so far. This team can't work the O, like the last couple of teams. So he must adapt and find other ways for this team to succeed. He might but he hasn't figured it out yet.
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