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Post by michiganhoya on Dec 6, 2004 16:52:38 GMT -5
I can understand if G. Williams has his reasons for not wanting G-Town in the BB&T Classic. However, I found his quotes:
"It's tough playing local teams when you're supposed to be the best team, to be honest with you."
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"What does that do? It makes the basketball fans of Washington happy, but we have to do what's best for our program. That's not being selfish. We always went out of our way to play [smaller] schools and we'll continue to do that. But I'm not sure a tournament format with just local schools would be best for us. I remember Georgetown wouldn't do that for 20 years."
to be arrogant at best and offensive at worst.
Can that guy's head get any bigger? What kind of coach says that?
Maryland would clearly be a contender if not a favorite in a locally dominated tournament that would include: Georgetown, GW, American, George Mason, Navy, UVA (?), VTech (?), Coppin State, etc. but by no means would it be a lock to win that tournament.
It seems to me that there's a little competition in Philadelphia each year that seems to be of some worth to all the participating teams.
I only hope that we don't play Maryland now so that we can return the favor in a few years when the Hoyas are reestablished as the team to beat here and they slight the Twerps.
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Post by the_way on Dec 6, 2004 18:13:01 GMT -5
Its not arrogance, its common sense. John Thompson did it back in the day. You don't get better playing lesser teams nor do you establish a national program playing local teams. This is the NCAA not the MCAA. Gary is smart. There is only an advantage to the local teams at the bottom. When Maryland beat Georgetown in 1993, that changed their whole program. Maryland went up, G'town went down. Maryland's rep grew bigger playing G'town, who had the national prestige at the time, and was highly ranked. Its a competitive thing. This is business, don't take it personal. You may not like it, but you can respect where he is coming from.
And another thing, how many of those "local" Philadelphia teams have been to the Final Four lately, eh? Tell me that. So how beneficial is that?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2004 18:26:27 GMT -5
the_way returns with authority!!!
With the exception of 'Nova, none of those Philly schools have been relevant in AGES. Espeically since big business met college sports. GU-UMd is pretty rare in that two national programs exist in one city. Maybe Xavier-Cincy is the other. The Philly teams play each other and exist for entirely different purposes.
GO HOYAS!!!
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Post by the_way on Dec 6, 2004 18:38:04 GMT -5
Whats up Buffalo! ;D
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 6, 2004 18:44:48 GMT -5
St. Joe's? Wasn't that last year? I'd say they were pretty relevant.
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Post by the_way on Dec 6, 2004 19:27:18 GMT -5
One year, and No final four. Yeah, really relevant.  |
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Post by david on Dec 6, 2004 19:32:57 GMT -5
well they were undefeated in the regular season and, if i remember, made the elite 8
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Post by michiganhoya on Dec 6, 2004 19:41:49 GMT -5
my point is that Maryland is not all that great anymore. Williams made those remarks after GW beat Maryland. GU, UVA, MD, and I guess GW are going to be pretty competitive over the next few years.
He's trapped in 2000-2002. His team's not that great. I look forward to GTown overtaking them in the local scene over the next 2 years.
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Post by HoyaNJ5 on Dec 6, 2004 19:49:37 GMT -5
Gary Williams has always been a big whiner. It Editedes me off even more that some of these journalists don't take him to task. Its funny to me that Mike Wise is willing to be critical of many people, but Gary Williams makes these ridiculously whiny comments and he lets Gary get away with it. First of all, Maryland is a very good team this year, but they are far from a dominant team. GW beating them was, in my eyes, a minor upset. I wish Gary would get over it. Second, the fact that he still holds a grudge against Georgetown is just ridiculous. How long ago was that??? Its been over a freakin' decade, and he's still whining about it. Even Feinstein has made amends.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 6, 2004 19:58:46 GMT -5
I didn't think GW beating them was an upset at all. Maryland was a good but not great team last year, except Gilchrist got hot at the right time.
GW is an excellent team and they'd win that game more than 50%, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2004 20:03:21 GMT -5
As for St. Joe's, one year does not relevance make. If that were the case, WE'D be a nationally relevant program.... and unfortunately, we're not.... for now.....
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 6, 2004 20:08:21 GMT -5
As for St. Joe's, one year does not relevance make. If that were the case, WE'D be a nationally relevant program.... and unfortunately, we're not.... for now..... GO HOYAS!!! You're right, I suppose, but I do think it is a silly argument that the Big Five reduces relevancy in any way. Villanova and occasional A-10 teams are still relevant from the Big Five. I think the benefits, aside from a fan/attendance standpoint, are overstated. On the other hand, I think the issues are overstated as well. |
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Post by Cambridge on Dec 6, 2004 20:55:56 GMT -5
GW is 3-2 vs MD in the finals of the BB&T...so who's dominant Gary?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2004 21:02:47 GMT -5
I love the stats.... and hate the 'TWERPS!!!
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Post by the_way on Dec 6, 2004 22:00:09 GMT -5
Gary is just jealous because he wants to be G'town. As good as maryland is, it doesn't have the national prestige as G'town, even with our struggles.
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Post by chinatownfanclub on Dec 6, 2004 23:12:14 GMT -5
GW was by far the best team in this weekend so I didn't consider it an upset at all. I don't expect Maryland to do much in the ACC this year and I think Gary probably realizes that himself. GT, UNC, Duke, Wake are leaps and bounds better than UMD and UVA and NC State look better at this early point of the season that Maryland. I expect he'll be whining in another two years when the memories of 2002 fade.
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