DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 4, 2004 9:23:06 GMT -5
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Post by NJHoya95 on Dec 4, 2004 9:37:14 GMT -5
I have no problem with the teal because Nike was trying to market the retro 1982 uniforms duing the 2002 season. They should have stuck with the same uniforms that Patrick wore as a freshman. Like everyone else, we have to get back to the home greys, the same ones we had for the Syracuse game last year. There is a reason we wear Union blue and Confederate grey. White home jerseys are not the solution.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2004 9:39:29 GMT -5
I'm with NJ... retire the teal and blacks AND whites.
Is something like this petition-worthy?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 4, 2004 9:43:40 GMT -5
Agreed that blue and gray are the way to go. I'm not a fan of white jerseys but if they incorporate the Union blue and Confederate gray appropriately, they can work, given that the team wore white for 66 years prior to 1983.
Teal was never a Georgetown color (the 70's and early 80's jersey was more of a blue-gray road color) and simply put, Nike has failed Georgetown on this.
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Post by HoyaNJ5 on Dec 4, 2004 9:45:20 GMT -5
I agree with everyone. Let's start a petition to bring the greys back. The greys we wore last year against Syracuse were perfect. Not flashy. Nice, traditional grey uniforms with GEORGETOWN in block letters. I loved them.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Dec 4, 2004 11:00:31 GMT -5
I LOVE THIS THREAD!!!! If we can do anything to bring back the blue and gray uni's I am all in. While I do like the new women's uniforms and feel that white would be acceptable with the proper blue and gray trim, it still wouldn't be ideal. It's time to go back to gray home jerseys and navy (Georgetown) blue on the road.
2005-2006: Blue and Gray will Remind them!!!!
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Post by HoyaLawya on Dec 4, 2004 11:43:53 GMT -5
Ditto to 007 sentiments. History and tradition with an underlying rationale from the Civil War. Gotta honor it.
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Joe Hoya
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Post by Joe Hoya on Dec 4, 2004 12:57:15 GMT -5
We don't wear teal.
The San Jose Sharks (used to?) wear teal.
The New Orleans Hornets (used to) wear teal.
The Florida Marlins sometimes wear teal.
Georgetown does not wear teal.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Dec 4, 2004 13:50:40 GMT -5
We don't wear teal. The San Jose Sharks (used to?) wear teal. The New Orleans Hornets (used to) wear teal. The Florida Marlins sometimes wear teal. Georgetown does not wear teal. Joe, you're missing the point. It isn't actually teal if we want to get technical about it, but its some hideous color that Georgetown has no business wearing. Yes, we are exaggerating when we say teal, but we just hate that color (whatever the hell it is) and we want it gone. 2005-2006: Blue and Gray will Remind them!!!
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Post by CAHoya07 on Dec 4, 2004 13:56:53 GMT -5
I'm on board, blue and gray all the way. We could start a petition and get as many people to sign it, then present it to the AD.
However, I'd rather start a petition and get as many people as possible to physically sign a document to get an on-campus arena here at Georgetown, or at least planned within the next 4-6 years. I think a LOT of people would be willing to sign that, and it would send a big big message to McDonough.
But then again, maybe it's good to start small. Petition for the jerseys could be a good start.
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Joe Hoya
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Post by Joe Hoya on Dec 4, 2004 13:58:40 GMT -5
I'm not missing any point.
I critcized The Hoya for (two years running) misidentifying Jeff Green. CAHoya got on them simply for misspelling Jonathan Wallace's name. The least you could do is properly identify the jerseys the team wears.
I'm apprently the only one who has no problem with the home whites whatsoever. I like the gray, but can't we wear white at home and gray on the road? Just a thought on a compromise (which seems to be a word nobody on this board likes very much).
And I think we must only refer to Wallace as "Jonathan". We can't have a "John" Wallace playing for Georgetown, what with the overwhelming professional success of the one from Syracuse.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Dec 4, 2004 14:04:58 GMT -5
I don't like the idea of road grays, and I dont know if it would be allowed since it is pretty close in color to white.
I think we should definitely have navy blue on the road. I also said that I could accept white at home with the proper navy and gray trim, but I would much rather have gray at home. As has been mentioned, the historical meaning of it is extremely important in my opinion (not that we have worn them for the majority of our program's history, but the history of the colors) and it is also very unique, which we should take advantage of.
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Post by FrostbackHoya on Dec 4, 2004 14:45:43 GMT -5
Is there a difference between 'Navy' Blue and 'Union' Blue?
We're probably one of the ONLY universities in America that actually have a genuine historical reason for our choice of colours. Why can't the brilliant minds at Nike and in the Athletic Dept. come up with a marketing campaign that emphasizes that reason -- and gets us back to Union Blue & Confederate Grey? Do they think they'll somehow lose young buyers or something?
III has already started a retro tradition with the 'We Are Georgetown' thing -- a return to home greys would be in keeping with that, no?
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Post by GUHoya07 on Dec 4, 2004 14:55:08 GMT -5
I think the return to blue and gray may be in the plans for next season, but the unis for this season were already decided before JT III got here. The thing is, I want to make sure that we have blue and gray next season and that there is no doubt about it.
Hopefully with the switch to the Jordan divison of Nike, the new unis that are designed will be gray at home and dark blue on the road. I want to make sure this happens though, so lets do whatever we have to do to ensure this.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2004 16:18:23 GMT -5
I'm more than willing to write up a form letter we can all mail to III, Jack DeG, Brick (is he still the interim AD?), Phil Knight or his successor, or whoever else has to hear about this. How many people can we actually get on board for this?
I agree on the McD petition being more important... but that's dependent on so many other factors, this is at least something we MIGHT be able to accomplish.
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Post by Joe Hoya on Dec 4, 2004 16:31:59 GMT -5
Using the term "Confederate" to describe the gray is the best way to prevent it from ever being used.
Uniforms are created/changed with marketing in mind. The connotations of being associated with the Confederacy are too negative to be considered by marketing people.
Baseball teams wear gray on the road all the time. The gray we wore last year is not even close to white. I don't see a problem with it (although if there's an NCAA rule, I guess I can't do anything about that).
Is there anything that people won't petition about? While we're at it, can we petition for potato skins to be a daily option in the cafeteria?
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Post by GUHoya07 on Dec 4, 2004 16:38:58 GMT -5
Im sorry Joe, but I don't understand what your problem is with this being important to us. There are obviously plenty of people on here who think that it is important for us to be wearing our school colors and are tired of some horrible foreign colors. People have been voicing their displeasure about the unis for a while now and yet we are still wearing them, so I dont think its that crazy to get something going to make sure we change that.
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Post by SaxaCD on Dec 4, 2004 17:04:57 GMT -5
The Georgetown Blue and Gray are conciliatorycolors -- a reminder that DC was pretty much smack in the geographic middle of the North/South divide - and a sign of unity among the students from both North and South after the war was over. You might not find that as important as potato skins, but anybody who treasures the traditions of Georgetown wouldn't mind it being reflected in the uniform because THOSE ARE GEORGETOWN'S COLORS, and they're our colors for much better, more important reasons than a lot of other schools had for picking theirs.
Go BLUE and GRAY!!!
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Post by Joe Hoya on Dec 4, 2004 17:21:14 GMT -5
::sigh::
I like navy blue and gray better than black and UCLA-blue. I don't mind white, in fact I think it's fine that we wear white at home like just about everybody else. I just don't think it's worth petition efforts just to complain about it, when we all know that it will likely fall on deaf ears. We've had "change the coach!" petitions, we apparently have a petition about McDonough, and now we wanna start a "change our uniforms!" petition. Doesn't it sort of reduce the effectiveness of the whole petitioning concept when you do it frequently?
And about the potato skins...if you couldn't tell I was being sarcastic and just trying to make a point, then I'm sorry. But they would be a good addition.
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