WASHINGTON POST

[Air Jordan]

We are waiting on the next negative article you can print about our boys, and our program. COME ON WITH IT

[happyhoya1979]

Feinstein-Do your worst-We'll do our best!!!

[Air Jordan]

thats for damn sure, read gottweeds article said it wasnt so much us, but Carolina beat themselves. MAn these people are funny

[HoyaSAXA]

well ok guys what about the two articles in saturdays paper, sally jenkins article was great, and mikes was pretty good. Both were positive hoya columns, who cares about what feinstein says, he isnt even close to an established writer in the scheme of things

[AustinHoya03]

Actually the WaPo has had us on the front of its website all evening with links to a photo gallery and articles:

www.washingtonpost.com/

[dairishhoya]

Along with Camille's story they have:

Shouts of Pride Echo in Georgetown
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/25/AR2007032501294.html

Sarah Nelson, 19, a freshman, agreed. "I'm just really excited they pulled it off at the end. They're awesome," she said.

So awesome that fans slowly -- and peacefully -- began to spill onto the quad and then M Street to celebrate.

By about an hour after the game, the celebration had slowed.

But not the jubilation.

Great photo of M Street:
media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/03/25/PH2007032501357.jpg


Hoyas Find More History in the Making
Comeback Win Over North Carolina Leads to 1st Final Four Since '85
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/25/AR2007032501353.html

Ewing wept for joy afterward, saying: "I had to let out. All those years people said I wouldn't live up to my father. And to accomplish something he did in college, to go to the Final Four and hopefully win a national championship, I just lost it when I saw him and my family."

* * *

"Everybody fusses about whether I should be doing my son's games," Thompson Jr. said. "I found out I shouldn't. Because I was numb. I was deaf for five minutes. I was just like, 'They're gonna do this. They're gonna do this.' "


Hoyas Come Full Circle
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/25/AR2007032501354.html

With this game, the Hoyas carved out their own enduring legacy. A quarter century from now, the most indelible memory of these Hoyas will be of their impeccable teamwork, their collective restraint, and rigorous method. While they have plenty of star power in players such as Green and center Roy Hibbert, their greatest attribute is the fact that all of them are valued and vital parts. Five starters were in double figures, and they had 26 assists on 38 field goals, and even those statistics fail to take into account the contributions of reserves Jeremiah Rivers or Patrick Ewing Jr., who got the game's most important rebound. No matter what happens now, whether they win or lose in Atlanta, they are already one of the most memorable teams in school history.

Wallace Saves His Best for Last
Guard's 19 Points Help Rescue Hoyas From Elimination
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/25/AR2007032501340.html

Hibbert said he smiled when he saw Sapp feed Wallace the ball. It's a play Hibbert said the Hoyas often practice, precisely with Wallace catching the ball at that spot.

"He's calm out there," Hibbert said. "He doesn't take bad shots. That's Jon's favorite spot. He likes to come off the drift, so we always like to run that play."
And that's why Wallace didn't mind taking the big shot. It so impressed Tar Heels Coach Roy Williams, that he went over to Wallace afterward to tell him.

"I told Jonathan Wallace, 'Son, you made a big-time shot. Congratulations and good luck to you,' " Williams said. "Toughness is being like Wallace. If you don't make that shot, you probably don't win that game."

[AvantGuardHoya]

Enough w/the WaPo bashing. I'm not looking for slights right now. As far as I'm concerned their coverage is exactly what I'd like to see. In fact yesterday I was floored when they had us on the print edition FRONT PAGE above the fold w/pictures! That's completely uncharacteristic and noteworthy.

I'm also pleased to say that the Fred Brown story seems to have faded from memory. The victory over Carolina has changed a great deal....

[ExcitableBoy]

After the game, Mike Lupica was along the sidelines looking for a story and one Hoya fan yelled at him "Way to pick UNC, Lupica" (which is a fair point--journalists are so rarely actually held accountable for their picks).

In response, in his whiny I-host-the-Sports-Reporters voice, he said "THAT'S what you want to say right now?" (also a fair point, I really couldn't care less what they say, we are certainly a final four contender now, regardless of our inability to create turnovers, our subpar guard play and our lack of a star wants the ball every time and who will score 30).

[DonkDonk]

it's not that reporters pick other teams besides the Hoyas that makes us angry and I don't expect them to be apologetic - the right accountability, if that is the right word, is actually something like what Gottlieb said: "their guards have played much better than I thought they would." he realized that he made the mistake of assuming that our weakness HAD to be our small men. (I'm not saying our guards are the best in the country but they have never been a glaring weakness at any point this season.)

because the focus on the Hoyas leading into the tournament, and even now, has been on our big men, - naturally analysts are going to point out that our small guys are a weakness without really studying what our team is about.

this is akin to football analysts leaning towards saying that a team with an awesome passing attack has weak personnel in the running game...just because the running attack hasn't posted the same type of numbers. it's just an easy way of doing a strengths/weaknesses analysis without doing the REAL homework and possibly finding out that the team is actually very talented all the way around.

I wish we didn't care so much what analysts think / who is writing about us, but we do, because it becomes our advertisements so to speak for our program.

[Boz]

Say what you want about Lupica (and I'm not a big fan of his either), but this is one heck of a column for any Georgetown fan to read:

www.nydailynews.com/sports/col/lupica/

[WiseyBum]

I don't know if this has been posted before, so I apologize if you've seen it. And, it's not really Post material, but they are distributing it in a rather careless manner, for which I blame them.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2007/03/24/GR2007032400046.html

There's no methodology and goes out of its way to indict Georgetown for not graduating players that transferred.

I think this type of stuff is rolled out all the time, but it just got me riled up because I was only going to spend today eating and thinking about yesterday's win.

Here's my take on it (players added to the team 1996-99, transfers mentioned, no notation means I believe they graduated):

1996 -- Shernard Long (transfer Georgia State)
Rhese Gibson
Ed Sheffey (transfer NM State)
Shamel Jones (transfer Memphis)

1997 -- Kenny Brunner (transfer Samurai Sword State)
Nat Burton
RBB
Demian Bolden*

1998 -- Kevin Braswell
Anthony Perry
Gharun Hester*
Willie Taylor (transfer VCU)

1999 -- Demetrius Hunter (transfer UNLV)
David Paulus*
Trenton Hillier*
Victor Samnick
Courtland Freeman
Jason Burns (transfer College of Idaho)
Lee Scruggs (graduation data not available)

* -- non-scholarship?

From what I can tell, the only player who is not listed on hoyabasketball.com without a degree and year of graduation (other than transfers) is Lee Scruggs.

Grad rate counting transfers: 58% (they had 47%, but they probably only counting scholarship players. So I guess I'd throw out Bolden, Hester, Paulus and Hillier, which gets us down to their 47%)

Grad rate not counting transfers: 92% (Throwing out walk-ons; 88%)

[hoyatables]

Thanks for exposing the ridiculousness that was the 47% number. When I saw the "entered between 1996 and 1999 I knew it was a junky number to start. And I figured they probably didn't account for all the kids that transferred without graduating from Georgetown, but graduated somewhere else.

Lies, damn lies, and statistics.