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Post by FairfaxHoya on Mar 14, 2007 7:26:56 GMT -5
Look at USA Today - they show each coach's vote throughout the season. How did Steve Fischer move us up only one spot (into about 14th place) after winning the Big East tourney? He looks like an idiot next to everyone else.
Also humorous -- watching Boeheim become our biggest cheerleader after beating us at SU.
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Post by Jack on Mar 14, 2007 7:59:30 GMT -5
How did Steve Fischer move us up only one spot (into about 14th place) after winning the Big East tourney? He looks like an idiot next to everyone else. Maybe because he was too busy voting two teams from his own conference into the Top 10, UNLV (13) and BYU (23). Oh, by the way, those two teams had respective Pomeroy ranks of 55 and 52. But seriously, the coaches poll is an excellent measure. |
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Post by dajuan on Mar 14, 2007 8:18:09 GMT -5
Link?
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Post by GUMBA on Mar 14, 2007 9:38:25 GMT -5
Can somebody explain how the Big East has five teams in the Coaches top 25, while the ACC has only two yet the Big East only gets six bids while the ACC gets seven? The Big Ten has two teams in the top 25 and gets five bids. The PAC 10 looks to be the toughest conference with four out of ten teams ranked vs. five out of 16 for the Big East. But historically the PAC 10 teams tend to fold early when they get in the NCAAs. I hope the Big East teams all crush their first and second round opponents this year to teach the committee a lesson. I'm not apologizing for the Cuse but your could argue the BE deserved eight bids again this year given the strength of the conference. I'm sure the OOC stats posts don't indicate the reltative strength of the conference but the rankings indicate the BE is much stronger than the committee gave it credit for.
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 14, 2007 11:13:31 GMT -5
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Post by SirSaxa on Mar 14, 2007 11:31:28 GMT -5
Something is very odd.
I was looking at the breakdown for Hoya votes in week 19 -- this week.
We are ranked 8.
5 coaches actually put us at 8
2 put us lower than 8
24 put us HIGHER than 8.
So how did that get calculated down to "only" an 8th place ranking?
I guess I don't understand the math very well.
But you know what? None of that matters.
What does matter?
"Just win baby!"
One game at a time.
Just keep playing Hoya basketball.
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Post by 3556reservoir on Mar 14, 2007 11:35:57 GMT -5
It looks like that Fischer vote killed us, no? Only 7 of 31 coaches had us at 8 or lower, but we ended up at 8? Hardly seems like a representative measurement. What a stupid poll.
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Post by Boz on Mar 14, 2007 11:48:03 GMT -5
I looked at that list of coaches and wouldn't want any of them coaching Georgetown, LEAST of all crooked old Steve Fischer, so who cares what their opinion is.
OK that's not fair. Steve Fischer is not the coach I'd least want. That spot is reserved for Sweaty Gary, in perpetuity.
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Mar 14, 2007 12:18:08 GMT -5
GUMBA, not only the amount of bids but the seeding of the Big East teams vs the ACC teams is off kilter. Virginia #4, Maryland #4, Va Tech #5, Duke #6 while ND gets a 6, Marquette 8 and Villanova 9. No respect for the Big East.
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 14, 2007 13:56:29 GMT -5
I looked at that list of coaches and wouldn't want any of them coaching Georgetown, LEAST of all crooked old Steve Fischer, so who cares what their opinion is. OK that's not fair. Steve Fischer is not the coach I'd least want. That spot is reserved for Sweaty Gary, in perpetuity. Really? You'd rather have Whiny Magoo as Gtown's coach than Sweaty Gary? Interesting... |
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Post by ExcitableBoy on Mar 14, 2007 15:13:51 GMT -5
Something is very odd. I was looking at the breakdown for Hoya votes in week 19 -- this week. We are ranked 8. 5 coaches actually put us at 8 2 put us lower than 8 24 put us HIGHER than 8. So how did that get calculated down to "only" an 8th place ranking? I guess I don't understand the math very well. But you know what? None of that matters. What does matter? "Just win baby!" One game at a time. Just keep playing Hoya basketball. It's voters like this true champion who account for a skew like that. When one voter puts us at #14, that means six voters have to put us at #7. Thus, it only takes a couple of clowns to really skew the mean (which is why the median are a better measure). Even if our average ranking is above #8 (i.e. 7.2 or something like that), as long as there are 7 teams in front of us, we will be #8. So that means that if we are at the tail end of a log-jam (3 points behind Wisc & 8 behind UCLA) we could actually have a higher average ranking on coaches' ballots than in the actual poll. But in the end, 7 vs 8 is pretty irrelevant, especially right now. |
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Post by Boz on Mar 14, 2007 15:21:29 GMT -5
I looked at that list of coaches and wouldn't want any of them coaching Georgetown, LEAST of all crooked old Steve Fischer, so who cares what their opinion is. OK that's not fair. Steve Fischer is not the coach I'd least want. That spot is reserved for Sweaty Gary, in perpetuity. Really? You'd rather have Whiny Magoo as Gtown's coach than Sweaty Gary? Interesting... Oops. Make that a two-way tie for last. |
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 14, 2007 15:48:34 GMT -5
Really? You'd rather have Whiny Magoo as Gtown's coach than Sweaty Gary? Interesting... Oops. Make that a two-way tie for last. I feel like this would be an interesting debate during the offseason. Which coach, who has never coached the Hoyas, would you least want to see coaching the team? So long as people realized it wasn't a bash Esherick thread, yeah, that'd be fun. |
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Post by The Stig on Mar 14, 2007 16:17:34 GMT -5
That's very interesting, well done to the USA Today for putting it out.
It looks like Belmont's coach (Byrd) has been a pretty consistent fan of ours throughout the year.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Mar 14, 2007 16:33:31 GMT -5
So Fischer was a big fan of the Big East all around. Us at 14th, Pitt at 17th, Louisville at 23rd, Notre Dame at 19th, and Marquette unranked. Which basically puts the entire Big East well behind the Mountain West.
If he had voted us 11th (which would have still been the lowest in the poll), we would have tied for 7th in the final poll.
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