Hoya06
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Post by Hoya06 on Feb 22, 2007 10:31:14 GMT -5
I know this has been said many times, but what the heck does ESPN have against us??? Currently there are 8 "stories" in the "news headlines" of the Men's College BB front page:
1) OSU over Penn St 2) Vandy upset 3) Miami beats Va 4) Tenn over Bama 5) Illinois mascot "retiring" 6) UF over SC 7) S. Ill get 10TH STRAIGHT (hmm.......) 8) OK St honors former coach.
Are they telling me ALL of these stories trump our 10pt ROAD win for our 10th straight victory with ONE our POY candidates playing like POY. Makes me sick, but also thankful for this board and the intelligent/not-so-intelligent/hilarious insight it provides.
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Post by VictorSkyPage on Feb 22, 2007 10:39:50 GMT -5
yea the fact that So Ill is up there over us was strange to me..
i wouldn't look too far into it - let us slide "under the radar" for as long as possible, it's not like people don't know about the Hoyas anyway
Saturday will be big
I do think we all agree that Jeff doesn't get the pub he deserves, he isn't flashy enough and doesn't put up the gaudy Durant point totals that the average fan needs to see
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Post by williambraskyiii on Feb 22, 2007 10:40:02 GMT -5
dude first of all relax. i am getting tired of inferiority complexes...we beat a 1-11 team.
I'll bet the bank that if we win on saturday, when it MATTERS, we will be splashed on the front page of espn and other media outlets. That is the biggest college basketball game on the docket saturday.
Lets move on from the "Hey we are doing well - I am loving the press" stage to the "We are establishing ourselves as a perennial power in college hoops once again, let's act like we've been here before" stage.
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Post by dajuan on Feb 22, 2007 10:44:10 GMT -5
To be honest, it just isn't that big of a story objectively as far as national media goes.
We beat the worst team in the Big East, and we didn't play very well. If there had been a headline, it would have said something like, "Hoyas survive early scare, hold off Bearcats". So either way, we're not getting a ton of love from the national media on a 10 pt win over the worst team in the conference.
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Feb 22, 2007 10:50:53 GMT -5
People on this board do a better job of finding "disrespect" than the New England Patriots. Take it down a notch.
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thebin
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Post by thebin on Feb 22, 2007 10:51:12 GMT -5
I agree that last night's story didn't deserve more press than it got. But our Nova and Marquette wins (both aired on ESPN) were buried on ensuing Sportscenters. I attribute part of this to the fact that both were early games, which is a silly rationale that SC seems to use a lot.
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Post by bubbrubbhoya on Feb 22, 2007 11:08:23 GMT -5
You seriously think that Chief Illiniwek (or whatever the silly name is) doesn't merit more press than the Georgetown Hoyas? Get real!
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Post by utraquehoya on Feb 22, 2007 11:17:04 GMT -5
While we're on the topic of press coverage, the front page of the Sports section of the Wa. Post (district edition) this morning had a HUGE colored picture of some MD player (8x5" at least) in the middle of the page. Gtown had a small 3x3 pictured somewhere on pg 9.
Admittedly Cinci wasn't a splashy or important win, and MD's win was significant for their tournament hopes, but, still, it was against a team that's in 9th place in the ACC.
None of this is new news for Hoya readers of the Post, of course, and we've discussed the reasons here (e.g., catering to schools with larger fan bases in the area; we just need to become one of those schools with large following).
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Feb 22, 2007 11:33:34 GMT -5
Unlike many on this board, I don't have a visceral dislike of MD or the ACC, but I must admit that I was not happy this morning when I read my Washington Post e-mail listing of yesterday's sports headlines. There were only two college basketball stories listed, one on Maryland's win over Florida State and the other on Virginia's loss to Miami. Not a mention of the only top 15 ranked team in the area that's on a 10 game winning streak and tied for first place in its conference! Talk about no love -- it's one thing when a national media outlet does it, but when the local press does -- that's unforgivable. The Post should be ashamed!
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Post by ExcitableBoy on Feb 22, 2007 11:38:34 GMT -5
On the plus side, we were one of the earlier college bball games shown on sports center today.
All in all, I wouldn't worry too much about having to click on one extra link in order to find out that the #12 ranked Hoyas won their tenth straight. I can guarantee that if we hadn't won our tenth straight, you could have found a link to our game much more easily. I much prefer the former over the latter.
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Post by hoyatables on Feb 22, 2007 12:06:31 GMT -5
Heh -- I noticed that UMd got top billing on the WTOP sports wrap-up too, followed by a one line "Georgetown beat Cincinnati for its 10th straight win." I just assumed its because it isn't news when we win a game anymore, but is a big deal when the Terps can put a full 40 minutes together .
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Post by paranoya on Feb 22, 2007 12:12:31 GMT -5
The press coverage is poor but just to bring up your point Bill about being splashed all over espn if we win against pitt, ill actually bet we get the normal treatment which is front page status until the later games which we will then be removed. I mean we have texas vs. oklahoma (red river shootout), Fla vs. LSU (Both made final 4), Marquette vs. ND (2 big east "powerhouses" who get way too much love for how bad they are), and Bama vs. Auburn (one of the biggest rivalries) as games later than us and will warrant more coverage than Pitt vs. GU in ESPN's mind. Maybe if we had a football program worth talking about that could change for us too.
I dont understand how they think but i also agree with the fact that it is nice to fly under the radar, however, i would be lying if i said it doesnt eat at me a little inside when i see inferior schools getting so much love.
**And yes i know they update somewhat regularly so they change the featured story but i am talking about any link on the main men's B Ball homepage which other teams who play early often get even after the late games end.
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Post by DoubleOhHoya on Feb 22, 2007 13:09:37 GMT -5
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Big Dog
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Post by Big Dog on Feb 22, 2007 13:14:22 GMT -5
I agree that last night's story didn't deserve more press than it got. But our Nova and Marquette wins (both aired on ESPN) were buried on ensuing Sportscenters. I attribute part of this to the fact that both were early games, which is a silly rationale that SC seems to use a lot. It has nothing to do with the times of games. It has everything to do with the fact that both days there were very big upsets that provided a much bigger national story. When we beat MU it was WVU over UCLA. When we beat Nova, it was Vandy over Florida. When he pounded Duke into submission last year it was the story for all day long, despite the game being played at noon or whatever it was. We're getting plenty of respect, and we'll get even more if we win Saturday. To be fair though, coverage of our game will be overshadowed by everybody's focus on Wisc-OSU the next day.
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Post by Fan Of The Game on Feb 22, 2007 13:50:38 GMT -5
Georetown beating Cincy is a non-story. While a loss would have been bad, the win did little to improve our standing at this point in the season.
Maryland's win and Virginia's loss were both extremely consequential. We should be happy that we're not worried about single wins over inferior Big East competition in order to secure an NCAA bid.
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thebin
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Post by thebin on Feb 22, 2007 15:15:42 GMT -5
Sorry Big Dog but that rationale might explain why the game was not first or second, but it wasn't even among the first 10 college games I saw covered either day. I am not saying it should have been first or second story either day (especially Nova) but there is most certainly some correlation as to how recent your game was played going into how high in the rotation SC has it. The Sunday morning SC after the massive Marquette win was not in the first 25 minutes or so of the SC's I watched. And it wasn't even among the first wave of college games covered. I agree that last night's story didn't deserve more press than it got. But our Nova and Marquette wins (both aired on ESPN) were buried on ensuing Sportscenters. I attribute part of this to the fact that both were early games, which is a silly rationale that SC seems to use a lot. It has nothing to do with the times of games. It has everything to do with the fact that both days there were very big upsets that provided a much bigger national story. When we beat MU it was WVU over UCLA. When we beat Nova, it was Vandy over Florida. When he pounded Duke into submission last year it was the story for all day long, despite the game being played at noon or whatever it was. We're getting plenty of respect, and we'll get even more if we win Saturday. To be fair though, coverage of our game will be overshadowed by everybody's focus on Wisc-OSU the next day.
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Post by MassHoya on Feb 22, 2007 15:27:34 GMT -5
GameDay did have Jeff's block as one of its Gym Gems this noon.
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Post by hifigator on Feb 22, 2007 15:38:14 GMT -5
I think the fact that you were playing a very bad Cincy team but you in a lose lose situation. Unless you rout them by 25, and that isn't your style of play, you weren't going to get a lot of good press.
The Pitt game this weekend will really establish a lot. Either you become the beast of the east or solidify yourself as the BE#2. For what it is worth, the ESPN radio guy Kincaid predicts a Pitt victory but Eric Assilias (SP?) predicts Hoya revenge.
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Feb 22, 2007 15:39:10 GMT -5
Georetown beating Cincy is a non-story. While a loss would have been bad, the win did little to improve our standing at this point in the season. Maryland's win and Virginia's loss were both extremely consequential. We should be happy that we're not worried about single wins over inferior Big East competition in order to secure an NCAA bid. Maybe the Cincy game "is a non-story" to you. If we'd lost, we'd be out of a tie for first. Winning meant we put ourselves in a position to claim first outright with a victory over our next opponent Saturday. I'd call that consequential, too. Seems to me that the Post always has excuses for how it handles GU basketball coverage. I ain't giving them a pass on this one. UVa's road loss to Miami was of more significance than GU's win? Surely you jest!
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Post by hifigator on Feb 22, 2007 16:04:52 GMT -5
Avant, but that's the point. UVA lost! You guys didn't in almost the same situation. I think UVA was still tied for the lead in the ACC. They went on the road to a bottom rung conference opponent and took an L, knocking them out of first place. You were tied for the BE lead and went on the road to the last place team in the conference ... and WON. That isn't as much of a story. If you really wanted it to be a story then all you had to do was lose.
Our loss to Vandy got nearly top billing last Saturday. Yesterday we won, which coupled with Vandy's loss gave us only our second outright SEC title in history, yet it wasn't exactly front page material. It is good to be in a position where wins are so expected that your games only become newsworthy when you lose. If you think about it, that ultimately is pretty much the goal.
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