GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Nov 18, 2004 20:40:36 GMT -5
Hey guys, start searching for whatever dirt you can find on temple. Stuff like the Randle guy from Illinois who punched a wall and broke his hand, scandals, arrests, that sort of thing. The HB chair wants to do cheer sheets for games this year and once he sends me the outline Im supposed to fill it out with some good stuff.
Rosters with info on our guys, cheers, and dirt on the other team is the plan. GET TO WORK! ;D
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 18, 2004 21:11:17 GMT -5
They have a current player suspended for undisclosed reasons.
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GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Nov 18, 2004 21:14:24 GMT -5
hmm, I think it would be pretty hard to make a chant out of "undisclosed reasons" haha.
Thanks though, keep up the searching.
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Joe Hoya
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Post by Joe Hoya on Nov 18, 2004 23:51:58 GMT -5
It's Michael Blackshear. He's the guy who clocked Matt Causey last year.
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GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Nov 19, 2004 0:12:02 GMT -5
Oh right, that does seem familiar now. I think we might be able to work something out of that.
Guy who clocked Causey is suspended for undisclosed reasons. This could be something.
Keep up the digging fellas.
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nodak89
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Post by nodak89 on Nov 19, 2004 8:25:01 GMT -5
This is a stretch (um, yeah it's bad--but I got nothing else) .... how about playing off famous Temple grad Bill Cosby, maybe there's something... Jell-o Pud-ding clap clap...........clap clap clap Or, to encourage more red-blooded American male students to attend, how about Jello Pudding wrestling? T-shirt, T-shmirt.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Nov 19, 2004 8:26:49 GMT -5
Hey guys, start searching for whatever dirt you can find on temple. Well, I don't know much about the players, but I think the sheer volume of material on Bill Cosby alone should last you through the first 35 minutes of the game or so. After that, you can just chant "We kicked you out!" or "How about checkers?" referring to Temples ouster from the Big East and possible cancellation of their football program. If all else fails, just bring a life-sized poster of John Calipari to the front row and flash it in front of John Chaney. It is entirely possible he will start foaming at the mouth and charge the poster - a la John Candy in the Czech prison in "Stripes."
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GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Nov 19, 2004 11:02:17 GMT -5
haha, the John Calipari thing sounds pretty good. I really can't stand Calipari either though, which would make it tough, haha. Just dont know how to get a life-sized cut out of Cal ;D.
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Post by HoyaLawya on Nov 19, 2004 11:47:29 GMT -5
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YB
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Post by YB on Nov 19, 2004 12:34:22 GMT -5
The Calipari thing is brilliant.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Nov 19, 2004 12:41:03 GMT -5
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 19, 2004 12:44:34 GMT -5
Maybe we could just cheer for our guys? Just a thought.
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CAHoya07
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Post by CAHoya07 on Nov 19, 2004 12:52:15 GMT -5
On the cheer sheets, you should say that when the opposing players are introduced, the entire student section turns around, picks up a newspaper (which hopefully we can provide with a big stack of The Hoya), and chants, "Let's Go Hoyas!" It's an apparently an old tradition that was on the Duke game cheer sheet, I'd like for us to be able to do this well.
Keep it simple with the "dirt." If it's not painfully obvious/funny, no one's gonna want to cheer it. Simple stuff like the unfortunately not-loud-enough "Keebler" chant for McNamara is good.
I remember none of the stuff on the cheer sheet for the Duke game was successfully chanted. Except for the backturning to the opening lineup.
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Bahstin
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Post by Bahstin on Nov 19, 2004 13:40:43 GMT -5
Why, exactly, are we trying to be like Duke fans?
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 19, 2004 13:52:27 GMT -5
I hate to say it but the Cameron Crazies serve as a prototype for the rest of college basketball. Whether they started it is another question, but I think most schools look up to them as the reference group.
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GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Nov 19, 2004 13:53:29 GMT -5
Are Duke fans the only ones who torment the other team and make their home court a hostile environment? Anyway, even if we were being like them, which we are not, that would probably be a good thing. They do have great student support and make Cameron an intimidating place to play. One of the biggest problems Georgetown people have is that they get stuck in doing things their way even if its a horrible way to do it. Maybe its time to take some pointers from other places and improve the way we do things.
And I agree, supporting our team is the most important thing and we have to take care of that early and often. However, you also want to incorporate some other things if you can. I want to see us create a true home court advantage, and make games an exciting event for all. I think there are many parts to that and thats what Im trying to accomplish.
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Joe Hoya
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Post by Joe Hoya on Nov 19, 2004 13:58:54 GMT -5
The Calipari thing is brilliant. "I'll kill you! Come here, I'm gonna kill you!" My favorite video clip ever.
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Post by showcase on Nov 19, 2004 14:35:56 GMT -5
The only way an MCI crowd is going to intimidate an opposing team is if it's huge (and not rife with opposing fans). Cameron is 'intimidating' by virtue of its band-box size and the talk it gets in the media. In that regard, the Phone Booth is just like the CapCavern in Landover: huge and impersonal. It would take way more than cheer sheets to create an intimidating buzz in the MCI Centre.
In light of that, I'd personally steer away from cheer sheets right now. Just like I think it's bad coaching to insist on a strategy that doesn't account for the strengths and weaknesses of the players you have, I think an idea that works well in large part because of the environment its used in isn't going to translate well to another, and will actually come of as sad and artificial. I'd think Hoya supporters and HB would be better served creating a buzz to overcome the huge amount of intertia most students feel in regards to attending a game than investing time and effort trying to create artificial atmosphere.
Just my $0.02, and I'm honestly not trying to dampen enthusiasm for the Hoyas; and, in the interest of full disclosure, I won't be anywhere near the MCI on Monday nite (for geographical reasons alone, I assure you).
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Post by doublehoya on Nov 19, 2004 15:35:21 GMT -5
What is the "feel" on campus? Obviously the students that are on this board are pumped up, but can anyone speak to how the students in general are? Is there renewed interest? What kind of crowd can we expect monday night?
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 19, 2004 15:35:52 GMT -5
Cameron is intimidating because of volume, not the words that are said.
Duke fans are rude, annoyingly arrogant and offensive at times. Not to mention complete nerds.
Remember, these are the people who ran to their center court and sang songs to defend their "jump circle." They are the people who wrote that their basketball coach, though they had never met him, has changed their life.
They are also the people who chanted "PLO" at Steve Kerr. Kerr's father was a doctor killed in the Beirut Marine Barracks bombing in the early 80s.
These are not people to emulate.
Be loud. Be loud for our team. If you have be geeky enough to use cheer sheets, do it, but why not just cheer on your own players?
Heckling can be okay, but frankly it's a little weird to be more interested in berating a man like John Chaney (who is a class act) than cheering on Brandon Bowman. I mean the paper thing is fun, but sometimes it is over the line.
[Sanctimonious jerk alert: I am the guy who, along with several of my friends, started Ogre chants at Jason Lawson and repeatedly shouted "45! You suck! at some Rutgers player. It was fun. But I'm not proud of it. ;D]
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