HoNYaSaxa
Silver Hoya (over 500 posts)
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Post by HoNYaSaxa on Feb 15, 2007 14:38:36 GMT -5
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FOTP
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
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Post by FOTP on Feb 15, 2007 15:22:05 GMT -5
This cracks me up. the conventional ESPN "wisdom" from those idiots is that guards win titles. That's why they rip on our "weak" guard play as the reason we struggled early.
Now all of a sudden because we're doing well it's frontcourts.
The reality is it's teams play together with balance that win the whole thing. Plus, you need at least one and possibly 2+ lottery picks on the team. Talent wins out in general.
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Post by coloradohoya on Feb 15, 2007 15:22:48 GMT -5
I really thought the amazing thing about the power rankings was the fact that we were in every voter's ballot. It's not just bandwagoneers now, the whole media is recognizing we are for real.
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Post by VictorSkyPage on Feb 15, 2007 15:34:35 GMT -5
There is a Jim Jones reference in the Memphis team comment... if you can get over that and take a step back... it seems very appropriate because both Jim Jones and Memphis suck quite badly
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Post by VictorSkyPage on Feb 15, 2007 15:36:04 GMT -5
sidenote: Marquette better win out and play well in the B.E.T. if they want a 4 seed at this point...
and Arizona will probably slip into a 4 seed next week (I think they beat S.C. tonight and have a big week)
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FOTP
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
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Post by FOTP on Feb 15, 2007 15:36:35 GMT -5
I would KILL to be in the Memphis bracket. Them and Butler and Southern Ill or Nevada. Any one of those is going to be way overrated due to high RPI and we'd kill them all.
That would be my dream bracket.
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Post by VictorSkyPage on Feb 15, 2007 15:57:33 GMT -5
I like So Ill.. I like how they play (with legit talent in Falker and Tatum) and they are a really solid program year-in year-out...
however, I agree that Butler and Nevada (and obviously Memphis) suck.. they are going nowhere
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Feb 15, 2007 16:01:36 GMT -5
I've watched Butler play live a couple of times and i have to say that their guards are great. Both Graves and Green are real solid. Graves looks like Jay Burson (Ohio State) and plays like a mini Kirk Heinrich. They have one big weakness and that's lack of size. I think if we played them we would just overwhelm them down low.
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Post by VictorSkyPage on Feb 15, 2007 16:04:32 GMT -5
Graves is definitely a solid player... Butler is just way too reliant on the 3 (didn't they take 33 attempts in a game recently) and I agree that a team like our Hoyas would just pound the ball inside, they wouldn't be able to do a thing...
As far as Nevada.. Fazekas is a good player, Kemp is solid, and I don't really like Sessions -- I've watched them play a few times and I just don't think they have the toughness or will to win that a less talented and less battle-tested team needs to get through in the Dance.
p.s. - does anybody remember that player on Butler a few years back who wore #10 and had bug eyes - he would just come out and shoot 3's nonstop, I think he may have actually won the NCAA 3pt. contest. This was probably 01-02? This has been bothering me, I will try to look it up.
edit: never mind -- just remembered == Darnell Archey... did not like that man
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pkhoya03
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Post by pkhoya03 on Feb 15, 2007 16:08:18 GMT -5
Gottlieb ranks us, yet doesn't have anything to say... How surprising.
I guess he still thinks we have too many turnovers for his tastes.
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Post by ExcitableBoy on Feb 15, 2007 16:14:05 GMT -5
Question: what is the power 16? Is it just another poll but instead of ranking 25 teams it ranks only 16? Is it another bracketology but instead of ranking 64(5) teams it only ranks 16? Or is it supposedly power rankings of the top 16 teams in college basketball right now? If it is the third variety, no way are the Hoyas a "3 seed" right now. We are playing as well as any team in the country right now.
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Post by VictorSkyPage on Feb 15, 2007 16:17:49 GMT -5
Question: what is the power 16? Is it just another poll but instead of ranking 25 teams it ranks only 16? Is it another bracketology but instead of ranking 64(5) teams it only ranks 16? Or is it supposedly power rankings of the top 16 teams in college basketball right now? If it is the third variety, no way are the Hoyas a "3 seed" right now. We are playing as well as any team in the country right now. I've always wondered the same thing... I accept it for being an indicator of what seed these teams would have if the season ended today (which clearly it does not - and there is no way for things to remain status quo throughout the season - so it doesn't make sense, whatever) rather than straight power rankings |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 15, 2007 16:42:45 GMT -5
1. don't knock jim jones too much seeing as our team comes out to the song quoted.
2. Nevada sucks i'e picked them to loose everytime in the first round that i can remember and they've never dissapointed.
3. The power 16 makes no sense as a concept.
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hoyanick
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Post by hoyanick on Feb 15, 2007 16:45:29 GMT -5
All this attention from the media is making me very nervous.
Blame it on my formative years: the Esherick era.
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Post by VictorSkyPage on Feb 15, 2007 17:12:37 GMT -5
1. don't knock jim jones too much seeing as our team comes out to the song quoted. Still bothers me.. I wish the Hoyas weren't associated with that, oh well. You know, I've always thought "The What" (Notorious B.I.G. f/ Method Man) would be an appropriate song for the Hoyas to come out to being that the technical translation of Hoya is "what" and all. A nice mesmerizing sound (goes along with JT III's mesmerizing game plan), great song. Clearly I'm delving way too far into this. Just a random thought. |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 15, 2007 20:34:48 GMT -5
i think Make it rain would be a good song for Jwall.
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