SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 16, 2004 17:13:17 GMT -5
Assuming Brandon stays for four years, continues to play primary minutes and be a primary scorer, I'm going to estimate his career totals:
101 GP, 1600 pts, 750 rebs, 200 asts, 200 stls, 100 blcks.
That would put him at #10 on the all-time scoring list.
Number 9 all-time rebounder.
Number 7 in steals.
Number 11 in blocks.
Some of this is because the team wasn't so good around him, but Brandon's going to have a heckuva career here if his last two years go like his sophomore year.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Nov 16, 2004 17:18:59 GMT -5
It is a little early to be talking about this. I am hoping that Brandon's role is more intangible. He needs to be a major leader over the next two years in terms of getting the program launched in earnest. This carries over to helping out the freshmen and ensuring that recruits have a good time when they visit.
As I said a few months ago, this season isn't necessarily going to be won on the court. Sure, we need to get better every day, but that may not mean winning 50% of our games. What we need to ensure is that we get some of the supports in place in terms of the student body etc.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 16, 2004 17:29:42 GMT -5
As I said a few months ago, this season isn't necessarily going to be won on the court. Sure, we need to get better every day, but that may not mean winning 50% of our games. What we need to ensure is that we get some of the supports in place in terms of the student body etc.
Hijack!
Seriously, if your only response is that it is too early to talk about this, and then turn the discussion elsewhere, why respond?
It was a fun little exercise. Nothing more.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Nov 16, 2004 18:27:40 GMT -5
Since JTIII's system seems to stress working together and passing more, it's highly possible that the Hoyas may do better as a team while Brandon's numbers fall.
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GUHoya07
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Post by GUHoya07 on Nov 16, 2004 18:39:51 GMT -5
I can't see his numbers falling even if we play more as a team. 16 pts and 8 boards isn't that much. It's not as if he was a ballhog. I think his numbers should increase in this system.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Nov 16, 2004 18:58:20 GMT -5
Since JTIII's system seems to stress working together and passing more, it's highly possible that the Hoyas may do better as a team while Brandon's numbers fall. I could see that happening easily. In my guesstimates, I brought his rebounds down but kept the points pretty high. But I could see a team that had four guys in the 12 ppg range and 20-25 pts from backups and the fifth starter.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Nov 16, 2004 19:27:31 GMT -5
At the same time, if the new offense showcases better shot selection, it's very possible that his FG% could improve considerably, resulting in higher point totals.
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Post by nychoya3 on Nov 16, 2004 23:16:46 GMT -5
If he keeps improving at the same rate, I expect him to average nearly 20 this season and possibly more as a senior. We may have a team offense in BB's last two seasons, but BB will clearly be option number one regardless. He's the one guy on the team who has proven he can create his own shots.
I think Bowman is a whole lot better than even most Hoya fans realize. Athletically, he's one of the most talented players in the BE and his game is catching up with his body. I expect big things from him the next two seasons.
Junior year: 19 pts, 8 boards, 1.5 blocks Senior: 20 pts, 7.5 boards, 1.5 blocks.
I predict he's a preseason first team all BE pick as a senior.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Nov 17, 2004 9:26:17 GMT -5
If they can allow him to play his position versus the scenario he was thrown into last year, he'll vastly improve. I also think that if we can develop another consistent ten to twelve point a game scorers (cook, owens.....) then the pressure will be off him to carry the load.
I just hope we don't start the season with another baseline dunk attempt that goes flying out of bounds like last year. That was the proverbial writing on the wall for last years season.
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Post by 1803 on Nov 17, 2004 9:34:18 GMT -5
Bowman is definitely a guy who could make the leap. Take a look at the progression: Highly recruited out of high school, probably could have gone to a major PAC - 10 school like Arizona, but would have been on the bench for a few years, and maybe recruited over. He chose the Big East, and the chance to start right away for an East Coast school that has for whatever reason set up a pretty good foothold in California. He had a typical freshman campaign, a little up and down, with a few flashes of greatness. His dunk against Nova in the Big East tourney that year summed it up perfectly. An incredible move seen on highlight reels across the country, and also I believe his only hoop of the night.
Last year he was clearly not happy, and the season went downhill fast. The transfer rumors were swirling, along with reports that he had to be re recruited by JT himself. He put up good numbers on a bad team. The season was awful, but his play was very good for a guy in his second year.
Now of course this is a fresh start for everyone. He is the closest thing the Hoyas have to a guy who can take over a game, and I would not be surprised to see him have a big year. He sees all of those framed NBA jerseys when he is at practice, and he knows that if he keeps working hard, he is going to have a chance to be up there, and to be remembered as one of the guys who turned this thing around. I will not be surprised if he is one of the best players in the Big East by the end of the season, and he is one of the reasons I am excited to watch this team play this year.
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Nov 17, 2004 11:45:23 GMT -5
BB has not even begun to establish his place in GU history - his "potential" (I hate that word) is unlimited if he buys into the system and concentrates on doing what he can do instead of what he thinks he can do - and if he does and progresses under control, he will end up succeeding at what he thinks he can do.
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Post by chinatownfanclub on Nov 18, 2004 13:23:08 GMT -5
He is the only guy on the team that can make you go "WOW!" Unfortunately he can also make you cringe. Talent wise I think he is top 15 (maybe 10) player in the big east. The real question this year is how he will be used. Is he going to be on the wing slashing to the hoop like he did his freshman year or will he be playing the four spot and using his quickness to score inside against bigger and slower players. He most definitely has the "potential" referred to. Let's hope he starts to make "the leap" this year.
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 18, 2004 20:41:38 GMT -5
He is the only guy on the team that can make you go "WOW!" Unfortunately he can also make you cringe. Talent wise I think he is top 15 (maybe 10) player in the big east. The real question this year is how he will be used. Is he going to be on the wing slashing to the hoop like he did his freshman year or will he be playing the four spot and using his quickness to score inside against bigger and slower players. He most definitely has the "potential" referred to. Let's hope he starts to make "the leap" this year. He’s a top five talent in the Big East in terms of raw athletic gifts. He has quickness, fantastic athleticism, explosive leaping ability, an outside shot you have to respect and a decent handle. Plus he’s 6’9 and has an incredible wingspan. Not to mention he has proven himself to be a very good rebounder and shown that that he can actually post opponents up. There are guys in the Big East who do not have his raw talent but are nevertheless better players (Gomes, Craig Smith, McNamara, the point for Pitt). But make no mistake Bowman has all of the abilities you want. He just needs to do a lot of fine tuning. By the way he isn’t some tweener like Hakim Warrick. Hakim, as fine a player as he is, has not developed any perimeter game and his body refuses to add on weight. Bowman not only has the far superior perimeter skills of the two he also keeps adding bulk. I can legitimately see Bowman playing the two or three at the next level if he plays smarter and refines his game a bit. Hakim though is not close to being the three he will need to play in the NBA. Rudy Gay from all indications matches/surpasses Bowman's combo of athleticism, length and versatility. Ultimately Jeff Green may too.
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