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Post by shansington on Nov 29, 2006 22:50:46 GMT -5
so i am not a frequent poster on the talkboard, but i read it pretty much everyday, and i just wanted to get some feedback on an issue that came up tonight. i sit in the famed YA section 120, and needless to say, we get a little funky from time to time. tonight, with 5 mins left in the game, down 4, me and about 4 or 5 my fellow YAs class of 2004 decide it's time to stand up for the rest of the game and make some noise. i mean god forbid we want to support our team. almost immediately, the EDITED behind us start yelling at us. i was expecting to turn and find a row of duck fans, but sure enough it was two hoya fans in their upper 20's to younger 30's. this strikes me as exactly the reason why hoya home games SUCK. we are a top 25 team (at the moment), down 4 points with under 5 minutes left in a key non-conference game, and we can't even get some of our 'fans' to get a even a little excited. i felt like i was at a wizards game or something. honestly, i would have expected this 3 or 4 years ago, but i was hoping this year was going to be different. i was hoping that the YA section would actually be filled with actual fans this year, and not EDITED who think they are too good to actually make some noise in support of their team. well, here's to a season full of Editeded off fans behind us in section 120, because when pitt and uconn come to town, we aren't going to sit for a second. go hoyas.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Nov 29, 2006 22:53:40 GMT -5
Good for you. Screw the people behind you. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: if they want silence and to be seated for the whole game, they can do so in front of the TV in their home.
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Post by HoyaInsomniac on Nov 29, 2006 22:57:16 GMT -5
We had a mom with her 10 week old baby sitting next to us (dressed head to toe in GU attire). Those 20-somethings can take a lesson in dedication from her.
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Nov 29, 2006 23:08:42 GMT -5
Fans in 119 also refused to stand for 95% of the game - it was just my row and 3-4 guys a few rows up. Me and a buddy kept yelling for people to stand, but nobody really listened. It was pretty pathetic.
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Post by NickSixers on Nov 29, 2006 23:13:14 GMT -5
I really don't understand why most of the folks (not the diehards on here, the more casual fans) pay the $$ to the HHC and for season tickets if in a game like tonight they don't cheer. Come on, support the team. I saw many fellow students urging fans along the sidelines to stand up and cheer down the stretch but there was little other than the YA sections. Just frustrating
I do understand that these fans' donations to the HHC are very important to the program, and that people have the right to do whatever they like at a game. Just frustrating to try to really build a home court advantage with little enthusiasm from the general fans.
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Post by HoyasSkins on Nov 29, 2006 23:16:42 GMT -5
Section 112 is terrible. The fans do not stand or cheer.
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Post by Oh My! on Nov 29, 2006 23:20:43 GMT -5
I agree 100% with the title of this thread, but it has nothing to do with standing, sitting, nor yelling at others for doing either. Too many of our fans (note, no %age listed here) come to the games ONLY to yell at officials, denegrate the opposing team with personal insults (Note that I didn't mind the Oompa Loompa chant, but-----why did it stop 5 minutes into the game???), and/or otherwise sit silent as if they have no comprehension of the competition which they witness.
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Post by ][-][ 0 `/ /-\ 5 on Nov 29, 2006 23:21:29 GMT -5
Not just 112 but that entire side of the court. Me and HoyaSkins may have been the only frigging fans standing at one point late in the game(other than an Oregon one with a stupid duck caller) and it Editeded me off when people said sit down. Learn to deal with other people supporting the team even if your too lazy to stand up.
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Post by ExcitableBoy on Nov 29, 2006 23:25:35 GMT -5
Also a problem in section 120 (among others), the non-Hoya fans. I would rather have the lower bowl full of Hoyas sitting on their hands than have to listen to visiting fans chant "Overrated" right into my ears.
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Post by Oh My! on Nov 29, 2006 23:26:07 GMT -5
Speaking of worst fans---some of these posts make it sound like you are in a contest between season ticket holders as to who can stand the longest. This thread is degenerating-----FAST.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Nov 29, 2006 23:28:10 GMT -5
Not saying it's right or wrong, but most fans cheer for effort and results. I couldn't see the game, but from almost everyone's opinion (I know there will be exceptions) the team produced neither effort nor results.
Why would you put so much emotion into a lackadaisical team effort? I cheer as hard as possible when the team exibits a great effort win or lose, but from what I understand, tonight was not that way. And no, that's not fair weather.
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Post by kghoya on Nov 29, 2006 23:32:14 GMT -5
Speaking of worst fans---some of these posts make it sound like you are in a contest between season ticket holders as to who can stand the longest. This thread is degenerating-----FAST. im actually still standing in section 111...im posting from my phone
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Nov 29, 2006 23:33:52 GMT -5
Amatures, I was calling out fans at the beginning of the week ...
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Post by BurleithBeast on Nov 29, 2006 23:59:41 GMT -5
Hey shansington:
I was one of those fans behind you in 120 telling you to sit down. Here's why: Like you said, it was you and four other people. It's a matter of common courtesy. I didn't particularly care to stand. I was at work all day. I rode my bike straight to the game. I was tired. But most importantly, not everybody wants to stand, and I don't consider it polite to ruin the game for people behind me who don't.
But here's the thing: standing/sitting is a separate issue from being a good or bad fan. I agree with you that fans in 120 don't always make a lot of noise. But the hell does that have to do with standing and blocking other peoples' views? I'm sorry--I just don't buy that standing up is somehow going to bring home a winner. I happen to make a lot of noise. I clap Let's Go Hoyas on O, I scream my lungs out on D. And yes, there comes times in the game where you stand up: last shot of the half, need a big D stand, Duke, Cuse, etc. That's the thing: People stand when there's something to stand for; not because standing is going to somehow goign to make the team play better. But when you guys stood up wasn't one of those times. As JJL said above, the effort wasn't something worth standing for. The Hoyas were in the middle of a 4 minute scoreless stretch and letting the game out of their grasp. Would my standing have changed that?
Then with about 2:30 on the clock, we stood up. We got a bucket, a Oregon turnover, I was on my feet. Lot of good that did.
Please don't insult fans who choose not to stand every minute of the game. I'm sick and tired of reading these "Worst Fans Ever" threads just because the YA section doesn't stand every minute of every game. Not to sound all Joe Lang here, but that's just not a reasonable expectation.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 29, 2006 23:59:45 GMT -5
Um wake up folks for the most part the non student fans are terrible sitting on their hands and not cheering and even worse selling their tickets to opposing fans i don't understand how this keeps happening. There are always opposing fans in the HHC sections. It's an outrage.
On a lighter note the student section was amazing in my opinion but maybe i'm a little biased but i thought HB did a great job today. Mad props.
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Post by saxacalhoya on Nov 30, 2006 0:02:18 GMT -5
I'm sorry--I just don't buy that standing up is somehow going to bring home a winner. Seriously ... if that was true USC would be in the Final Four every year.
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Post by ][-][ 0 `/ /-\ 5 on Nov 30, 2006 0:05:31 GMT -5
The student section was great and even in the end drowned out an overrated chant(though some students in the back of the sections left, that can't be prevented).Standing up with less than 4 minutes left in a close game is entirely reasonable. If someone stands in front of you, tough. Lean to the sides or maybe even stand up yourself. I don't think its that difficult to stand for a little and if you are going to pay some good money for those seats is really so difficult to put a little energy in?
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Post by BurleithBeast on Nov 30, 2006 0:11:38 GMT -5
.Standing up with less than 4 minutes left in a close game is entirely reasonable. If someone stands in front of you, tough. Lean to the sides or maybe even stand up yourself. I don't think its that difficult to stand for a little and if you are going to pay some good money for those seats is really so difficult to put a little energy in? Here's the thing: You gotta do a little test sometimes. You stand up for a big play, and if a critical mass of other people stay standing--right on, it's time to STAND, baby! If they don't, take a 10 count and have a seat. There will be other opportunities to stand. I happen to do this a lot. For instance, after The Vern had that huge block, I stood up and stayed standing. Then we turned the ball over and everyone sat down. So I sat down. This is one of those "Wisdom of the Crowd"-type situations. We collectively know when to stand better than any individual does.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 30, 2006 0:12:50 GMT -5
Only good thing about Cap Centre was the "captive" audience. No metros to run to...
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Post by redskins12820 on Nov 30, 2006 0:16:38 GMT -5
In the close games at the end, the sutdent section should do a little "stand up-clap clap-stand up" chant. I heard it a little tonight, but it was sporadic and then drowned out by a hoya saxa chant. I guarantee if the students do this, the arena will stand and make some noise. Everyone, including the opposing fans, should be excited if it's a 4 point game with 4 minutes left
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