miamihoya
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Post by miamihoya on Apr 7, 2006 22:08:27 GMT -5
Ya i wouldn't trust Noah's word much...would u tell 10,000 raging gator fans otherwise at the pep rally? I'm sure once the excitement of it all passes he will take a deeper look at it and realize he can make a ton of money yelling and screaming in the NBA. Plus his stock will never be higher than it is now. If they all stay though, thats a hell of a team.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2006 9:24:14 GMT -5
Rutgers? A threat? How long has it been since those terms were used in the same sentence?? The EXACT last time was when I visited the Rutgers campus in 1997 during a Visit-Every-College-Possible-Road Trip with my parents.* The comment was, verbatim: " More than two thirds of the girls at Rutgers present the threat of giving you an STD. You've been warned." * = Never happened. C'mon, my old man's a Hoya (CAS '69). You think he'd allow me to look at Rutgers? You're talking about a guy who, while recounting the story about how (after looking at Northwestern and driving back to Buffalo through Indiana) I declined the chance to get off I-90 and look at Notre Dame, said, "That was one of the happiest days of my life." |
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Post by VelvetElvis on Apr 8, 2006 10:35:58 GMT -5
funny, the same year my friends and I decided to take spring break in cancun. Stupid spring break tour company set it up in such a way that made us fly out of Newark. We shared a plane with what seemed like the entire greek system of Rutgers. They were just hideous human beings...No decorum whatsoever (coming from me, that is pretty bad)...The flight attendant left the cart in the aisle to go and make change. These idiots stole everything off of that cart including the f'n tomato juice! They were announcing the fact that they were doing cypress hill type antics in the back of the plane and playing volleyball with blown up condoms. The pilot finally came on and THREATENED the RUTGERS students with the possibility of landing the plane if they didn't begin to behave like they were human beings!
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Post by RockawayHoya on Apr 8, 2006 11:01:32 GMT -5
Rutgers? A threat? How long has it been since those terms were used in the same sentence?? The EXACT last time was when I visited the Rutgers campus in 1997 during a Visit-Every-College-Possible-Road Trip with my parents.* The comment was, verbatim: " More than two thirds of the girls at Rutgers present the threat of giving you an STD. You've been warned." * = Never happened. C'mon, my old man's a Hoya (CAS '69). You think he'd allow me to look at Rutgers? You're talking about a guy who, while recounting the story about how (after looking at Northwestern and driving back to Buffalo through Indiana) I declined the chance to get off I-90 and look at Notre Dame, said, "That was one of the happiest days of my life." 2/3rd is an underestimate, Buff. Having lived about 40 minutes away from the campus and knowing a billion kids who have gone or go there, I can tell you that it's almost possible to get them just by walking on campus. It's in the air, my friends. But the grease trucks, ah, now there's a redeeming quality. The "Fat Darrell" is definitely RUTGER'S THREAT to win any contest that has to do with late night snacking. |
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Post by hifigator on Apr 8, 2006 11:43:01 GMT -5
Ya i wouldn't trust Noah's word much...would u tell 10,000 raging gator fans otherwise at the pep rally? I'm sure once the excitement of it all passes he will take a deeper look at it and realize he can make a ton of money yelling and screaming in the NBA. Plus his stock will never be higher than it is now. If they all stay though, thats a hell of a team. I would normally agree with you, but I honestly don't think so now. Two days ago I would have thought the exact same way, but there is zero reason to handle it as they did if there is even the slightest doubt in their minds. I was there last night and as Billy D was being interviewed they asked him about next year. He said that we would worry about that a little later and that now was the time to enjoy this year but that down the road some of these guys are going to have some tough decisions. Horford walked over and took the microphone and then said that his two years had been great and they had accomplished a lot, two SEC tourny titles and a National Championship and that there really wasn't too much more to ... then Noah came over and took the mike and they started laughing and then looked back to Brewer who then joined them. After a couple of seconds they said it is time to introduce the 2006-2007 Florida Gators. It was absolutely awesome. I just don't see any reason at all that they would put on that charade if they weren't 100% certain. And for all the talk of "team," these guys really do like each other and understand that no matter what they can never come back to these years again. I thinkTito Horford might have talked to them as a group, because he has been very vocal about totally regretting leaving Miami early for the NBA. In any case, I am as positive as I could possibly be at this point that they are all coming back. |
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Post by Filo on Apr 8, 2006 12:48:21 GMT -5
I thinkTito Horford might have talked to them as a group, because he has been very vocal about totally regretting leaving Miami early for the NBA. In any case, I am as positive as I could possibly be at this point that they are all coming back. They may very well stay, especially since money is not an issue for Horford and Noah. I think all of them could use at least another year in college from a skills perspective. But the Tito thing is getting a bit ridiculous, especially as it concerns Noah. Tito went in the second round and did not really have the talent to stay in the NBA. Noah's not exactly in the same position as Tito was. In fact, Noah is probaby at the height of his attractiveness, given his run in the tournament and the weak overall draft. No guarantee that next year proves to be a better year for him... |
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Post by miamihoya on Apr 8, 2006 12:49:48 GMT -5
I don't know. It just sounds like Noah acting like an idiot as usual. Brewster and Horford I'll believe. But Noah just stock right now is way too high, and I can't see him passing up the oppurtunity to make tons of $$$. I would not be suprised at all to see him go back on his word.
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Post by theEDGEfactor on Apr 8, 2006 13:30:16 GMT -5
i think its great for noah to be loyal to his school, but i agree his stock is way to much that it will ever be...leave and take it you will be a top5...
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Post by rihoya09 on Apr 9, 2006 23:50:44 GMT -5
Aldridge of Texas is going pro according to ESPN
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Post by miamihoya on Apr 10, 2006 11:18:47 GMT -5
Aldridge of Texas is going pro according to ESPN yup...i guess he didn't wanna stick around one more season and try to bring a bball championship to texas...any guesses on who goes higher: vince young in nfl draft or aldridge in nba? i say aldrige. sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2403280 |
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Post by JimmyHoya on Apr 10, 2006 11:40:52 GMT -5
Bummer.
Aldridge is good, but he could use another year. Get bigger, stop fading away, etc.
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Post by HeartAttackHoya on Apr 10, 2006 13:05:25 GMT -5
people were saying the same things about chris bosh, who i compare Aldridge to, and he developped quite quickly. I still think Texas is the most talented team in the country next year even without Aldridge coming back.
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Post by nychoya3 on Apr 10, 2006 13:13:56 GMT -5
Douby is testing the waters. His HS coach says he's gone if he's a first rounder. I'd take him in the first, and it's not like he can have a better year next year. He was unreal start to finish this season, and he isn't going to get any bigger as a senior. He should be a good role player in the pros as a scorer off the bench. www.c-n.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060410/SPORTS07/604100364/1012/SPORTS10 |
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Apr 10, 2006 15:13:52 GMT -5
I think a lot of teams out there could use a durable scoring guard like Douby - I'd love to see NOK take him to pair with Paul and end the dream that Speedy Claxton has a future starting for any team in the NBA.
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Post by Cambridge on Apr 10, 2006 15:33:46 GMT -5
Noah is getting really bad advice if he's not leaving for the pros next year. It is nearly impossible to repeat titles in college basketball and Noah is only about 14 games removed from time where he averaged 2 ppg in 6min. Right now he is lottery and there is no reason that he should risk a) injury b) exposure of being a lesser talent than he appeared during a hot streak c) next year's draft class being substantially better and knocking him out of the lottery.
Go pro Noah, you can always get your degree later.
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Post by VelvetElvis on Apr 10, 2006 15:59:53 GMT -5
Noah is getting really bad advice if he's not leaving for the pros next year. It is nearly impossible to repeat titles in college basketball and Noah is only about 14 games removed from time where he averaged 2 ppg in 6min. Right now he is lottery and there is no reason that he should risk a) injury b) exposure of being a lesser talent than he appeared during a hot streak c) next year's draft class being substantially better and knocking him out of the lottery. Go pro Noah, you can always get your degree later. Wilbon was saying the same thing this morning on the Kornheiser radio show. He said that he asked about 25 players, coaches and/or scouts about Noah and whether he should come out. He stated that only Richard Jefferson said that he should go back to UF. Btw, are you trying to entice hifi and marsh from uf boards to come over and eat up pages and pages with their comments. We have more important things to discuss like Buff's next '80s related poll! |
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Apr 10, 2006 16:06:00 GMT -5
Bridge is so right, because I really think Noah isn't as good as he appeared.
You can look at his numbers and they are extremly impressive. You look at him, and he's got athleticism and he can really pass the ball.
But look closer at his run through the NCAA's.
He played against South Alabama.
He played against Wisconsin-Milwaukee, who's best big man is Adrian Tigert, who's all of 6-7.
He played against Lewis and Thomas of George Mason, who are both 6-6.
He played against Nova, who we all know have no big men.
Then he played against UCLA, who's big men are pure garbage.
The only comp he really had was against Jeff and Roy. Jeff scored, what, 18 points and had 10 rebounds? He didn't dominate the game until the refs saddled Jeff with three quick personal fouls to start the second half. Other than that, I thought Jeff got the better of him.
I'm not saying he's not going to be a good player.
But, he isn't the world beater that people make him out to be. Not by a longshot. He compiled numbers against weaker big men, big men who didn't have the skills or the height to pose a challenge to him on the offensive end of the floor. Plus, he was always allowed to roam because he had Horford by his side.
So he should go pro, he should capitolize on the momentum created by his facade of domination.
He could definitly be exposed next season.
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Post by VelvetElvis on Apr 10, 2006 16:35:10 GMT -5
I saw him live in Indianapolis from a pretty good perspective (30-40 rows up across from UF bench). FWIW, I thought he walked every time he got the ball @ the top of the key and triend to make move. I also couldn't believe he got away with hooking as many times as he did (anytime he got the ball down low). It was amazing to watch how quickly he got up and down the floor and he never really seemed to be taking off series. I was also impressed with his passion. The kid was constantly clapping and cheering on his teammates when good things happened or encouraging when something didn't go so well. I didn't think that it was too different then the type of energy that pe2 carried on the bench this year.
Another interesting thing that wilbon said today is that "Noah underestimates his own talent level" -thoughts?
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Post by BeantownHoya on Apr 11, 2006 6:44:09 GMT -5
NBAdraft.net released an updated mock draft yesterday and both Noah and Horford had been moved to the 2007 mock draft. I find that interesting because although I will agree w/most they usually do a poor job predicting the actual order of the draft, the last 2 years(from what I remember) they were very good at evaluating what players were going or staying.
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Post by FairfaxHoya on Apr 11, 2006 6:47:34 GMT -5
Of course Noah would be a high draft pick. The NBA only drafts on potential nowadays. That's why Kwame Brown gets taken over Shane Battier, even though most figured Battier would be a 15 point, 9 rebound, high-energy guy for about 10 years. Today Noah would be a total stiff in the NBA, but he COULD get much better. Hence, a top 3 draft status.
But the kid does not need the money. If he wants to stay in school, here's saluting him ...
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