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Post by guru on Feb 17, 2006 9:24:54 GMT -5
The Duke game means nothing? Are you kidding me? Clearly, you weren't there.
Anyway, Marquette is a bad loss, true. But they have a few good players and it's a tough place to play. Even if we lose to 'Nova on Sunday, the next three games are very winnable, putting us at 20 wins and a lock for a nice seed in the tourney. And with the tough schedules of others down the stretch, the 4 seed in the BE is still very much in play.
Yes, losing to a team like Marquette is embarrassing. But if we see them again in NYC, we'll absolutely smoke them.
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Post by Gold Coast Hoya on Feb 17, 2006 9:37:05 GMT -5
I was at the game last night and the loss was a bitter disappointment. After getting the ball to Ben on 3 of the first 5 possessions GU went away from him for no good reason. MU had no answer to Ben. Also, unless we learn how to attack the zone, we are one and done in any tournamnent this year. GU cannot live at the 3 point line when other teams take away the back door.
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Post by doublehoya on Feb 17, 2006 9:41:01 GMT -5
Ben?
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Post by EasyEd on Feb 17, 2006 10:34:47 GMT -5
Just a minor bump in the Road to the Final Four.
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Post by hoyasummer06 on Feb 17, 2006 12:49:45 GMT -5
A couple quick things I noticed last night and wondered about. 1. About the Princeton offense. When a team plays tough underneath, like in the WV and Marquette games, and uses the zone to close out the backdoor, does the offense ultimately fail? Isn't that when Georgetown kicks it out and starts taking really bad threes. What's our backup plan? going over the top of the D to Roy doesn't always work and our three point game has been off to say the least lately. 2. Jessie Sapp seems to have been getting a lot of playing time lately. He seems to have played a lot more against WV and Marquette than in other games... Do you think he's experienced enough or comfortable enough on the floor to handle the pressure of playing in big games, especially where georgetown does not have a thirty point lead?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 17, 2006 13:02:23 GMT -5
1. Ways to attack the zone:
Skip passes across the top for an OPEN three or if the defense overreacts, baseline drive. Passes to the top of the key or on the baseline and attack from there. Drive and dish off the collapse.
We tried all of these last night (though not enough) and simply failed to execute. How many five footers off of baseline drives rolled out? At least four I can remember. how many times did Brandon flash to the FT line but miss the layup? At least three or four.
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Post by Just Cos on Feb 17, 2006 13:40:15 GMT -5
Tough loss but some people are asking for WAY too much.
Continually impressed with the progress of Ben
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Feb 17, 2006 13:48:01 GMT -5
what good is the duke win doing us now? none. if you want to live everyday as if it were january 21 then so be it. we are not close to being that team right now. we are heading down the same road as last season, regardless of your denial. this is all forgotten if we win 3 of the last 4 or all 4 but that might be asking too much right now.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 17, 2006 13:54:29 GMT -5
what good is the duke win doing us now? none. if you want to live everyday as if it were january 21 then so be it. we are not close to being that team right now. we are heading down the same road as last season, regardless of your denial. this is all forgotten if we win 3 of the last 4 or all 4 but that might be asking too much right now. The Duke win is the only thing keeping us off the bubble (from an RPI perspective). Without that win, our RPI would most likely be around 40 or so, and we'd essentially be in the EXACT same spot as last year. You're right by saying we shouldn't still have our heads up in the clouds because of one game, but to dismiss that big win completely is ludicrous. If we finish these last 4 games 2-2, it is likely that it will be the Duke win that gets us into the tourney.
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Post by Just Cos on Feb 17, 2006 13:54:48 GMT -5
what good is the duke win doing us now? none. if you want to live everyday as if it were january 21 then so be it. we are not close to being that team right now. we are heading down the same road as last season, regardless of your denial. this is all forgotten if we win 3 of the last 4 or all 4 but that might be asking too much right now. Pretty sure that Duke win will help us on Selection Sunday.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Feb 17, 2006 14:01:13 GMT -5
what good is the duke win doing us now? none. if you want to live everyday as if it were january 21 then so be it. we are not close to being that team right now. we are heading down the same road as last season, regardless of your denial. this is all forgotten if we win 3 of the last 4 or all 4 but that might be asking too much right now. What good is the Duke win doing for us now? It's one of two big-time quality wins for us against teams in the top 10 of the RPI. It will help us get into the Tournament and improve our seeding tremendously. It also shows that we have the ability to beat the best team in the country when we are playing well. Look, everybody knows we're playing poorly right now, but there's no reason why this team can't bounce back and win 3 of the last 4. Step back from the ledge and take a breath of fresh air. This year's team is much better than last year's. Last year, our only win over a ranked opponent was over #16 Pitt in early January, a team that ended up being an 8-seed in the NCAA Tournament. This year, we have beaten the top-ranked team in the nation, Duke, for their ONLY loss all year, as well as a solid Pitt squad that should be a 3 or 4 seed. Last year, I don't think we had a single double-digit win in coference play. This year, we've absolutely blown Cincinnati, DePaul, and St. John's out of the building. The point is that all signs point to his team being MUCH better than last year's and much more experienced. Our offense has looked like doggy doo-doo lately, but there's no reason to think we can't regroup and rebound. Everybody's getting flashbacks to last year's losing streak. To tell you the truth, I am too. But I have confidence for all the reasons I listed that this team is much better than last year, and we will not collapse. We've lost to two good teams, they aren't St. John's or Providence. This is a speed bump, but we'll bounce back and win some games and be in good shape for the NCAA Tournament. Losing to Marquette is disappointing, but not the reason to hit the panic button like everyone seems to do on this board.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 17, 2006 15:55:52 GMT -5
It seems as if we were beaten before we started the game. Having not seen it on TV, I can only speculate from comments here. Apparently, it was a very hostile environment, they were down from losing to WVU (bad 2nd half), MU was planning all sorts of rah-rah activities (singing happy b-day to some fan, etc.), MU considering it a must win. I even thought it would be very hard to pull out a win there last night. I don't know what the answer to this is. Perhaps, what someone suggested about showing the tape against Duke. It will be a very hard game vs Nova, and I hope they have a plan. At least Nova is closer to DC.
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Post by ][-][ 0 `/ /-\ 5 on Feb 17, 2006 18:05:50 GMT -5
The reason we lost was because lic didnt ask for 5-0 because it wouldnt have been played.
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Post by Big Dog on Feb 17, 2006 18:08:51 GMT -5
It seems as if we were beaten before we started the game. Having not seen it on TV, I can only speculate from comments here. Apparently, it was a very hostile environment, they were down from losing to WVU (bad 2nd half), MU was planning all sorts of rah-rah activities (singing happy b-day to some fan, etc.), MU considering it a must win. I even thought it would be very hard to pull out a win there last night. I don't know what the answer to this is. Perhaps, what someone suggested about showing the tape against Duke. It will be a very hard game vs Nova, and I hope they have a plan. At least Nova is closer to DC. Marquette just played with a far greater sense of urgency than we did. The crowd I think was afraid of us at first, particularly after what happened at Rutgers last Sunday. But once they came back after that early storm, people started to feel comfortable. (The only feel-good moments of being there for me were when the PA announcer instructed all MU fans to keep standing until Marquette scored its first basket. Since that took 3 minutes while we scored 6 points, i was loving it.) Here's hoping we play with a bit of desperation on Sunday, and catch Nova feeling fat and happy.
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Post by hoyas2008 on Feb 17, 2006 18:59:35 GMT -5
Thats the kind of game I want to see Thornton, Crawford, anybody who actually wants to be out there. Hopefully we will decide that the Nova game is worth trying in
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 17, 2006 20:13:37 GMT -5
jeff green possibly worst game of career trying too hard rest of team horrible great when into hibbs and he was yelling for the ball and somtimes free and they took threes.. winnable game up by one wiht like three minutes.. gotta get rolling again. go hoyas beat nova wil be hard
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Post by HealyHoya on Feb 17, 2006 22:59:18 GMT -5
I think the truth is always somewhere in the middle...this is the same Marquette team that beat UConn. Truthfully, Marquette likely punched their ticket to the NCAA Tourny with this win. The BE sends 7-8 teams and I'm not sure Seton Hall is in with their unbelievable inconsistency this year. As such, while this is an L it's not necessarily a "terrible" loss. Sure, a win would have been better (when is that not the case?) and yes, our BE Tourny seeding is in jeopardy, but let's not lose control. If we lose to 'Nova -- and I think we match up with 'Nova pretty well so that's not a given -- we're still a 20-win team assuming we beat Rutgers, 'Cuse and SoFla.
Someone posted that the Duke game wasn't that long ago so let's stay confident. Well, I'm not happy with any lose, but scrapping at the end of the year to make the NIT wasn't that long ago either...
We are a Tournament team. We will right the ship. We will be better next year than this year and better the year after...
Go Hoyas. Beat 'Nova, Rutgers, 'Cuse and SoFla.
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Post by hoya73 on Feb 17, 2006 23:26:08 GMT -5
The only thing that hurts more than the loss is being smack in the middle of UMCP territory. My coworkers are gonna have a field day with me tomorrow. I never thought I'd say this, but tomorrow I might have to kill a man. Time to channel my inner Brick Tamland . . . ;D I killed aman in a Brazzaville street fight. I tried to hold back but he taunted me so.
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