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Post by MCIGuy on Jun 26, 2024 8:18:50 GMT -5
Naw, it was definitely McKenna. Thanks for the possible dignified escape hatch, but it was Drew McK. Yeah, those most recent comments tell me he's going to take some time. Frankly, the fact that we never got the "He's the best player in practice" quote (which isn't normally true but is often said) during the spring kind of signaled to me that we're not looking at a day one impact player. Why am I lost here? What recent comments and about whom?
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Post by guru on Jun 26, 2024 10:01:15 GMT -5
Yeah, those most recent comments tell me he's going to take some time. Frankly, the fact that we never got the "He's the best player in practice" quote (which isn't normally true but is often said) during the spring kind of signaled to me that we're not looking at a day one impact player. Why am I lost here? What recent comments and about whom? seems very clear the reference is to Drew McK?
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Post by MCIGuy on Jun 26, 2024 10:38:58 GMT -5
Why am I lost here? What recent comments and about whom? seems very clear the reference is to Drew McK? True but there were just a few highly positive of posts of McKenna posted in this very thread just about the same time, so that threw me off when SF referred to recent discussions. I am not aware of these recent discussions, especially none that paint McKenna in a so-so light (or any light) in which inside information on how the players were looking was shared on this board. That’s a topic of interest to me so if someone could point me in that direction it would be much appreciated.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 26, 2024 15:56:20 GMT -5
Yeah, those most recent comments tell me he's going to take some time. Frankly, the fact that we never got the "He's the best player in practice" quote (which isn't normally true but is often said) during the spring kind of signaled to me that we're not looking at a day one impact player. Why am I lost here? What recent comments and about whom? The video interview with Battle, I think? His comments weren't negative, but they weren't what you'd hear about a guy about to take the league by storm. "Drew McKenna, he came to us mid-year and it was a learning curve for him. But he's totally transformed his body during the time here ... He's a physical kid, he's a multi-positional guy. He's still learning. Technically, he's still a freshman even though he's been here in the program for a [half] year. He's made a huge jump especially physically, and now it's about transferring that to the court." Maybe Battle is intentionally downplaying expectations given how much Cooley's been burned, but on face value, this does not scream a guy they expect to be an impact player this year. I don't think this is bad at all, but if he were expected to make a big impact, I think we'd be hearing "he was one of the best players in practice last year" or "McKenna's on a mission, etc." That's all, though.
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Post by jwp91 on Jun 26, 2024 17:47:48 GMT -5
Why am I lost here? What recent comments and about whom? The video interview with Battle, I think? His comments weren't negative, but they weren't what you'd hear about a guy about to take the league by storm. "Drew McKenna, he came to us mid-year and it was a learning curve for him. But he's totally transformed his body during the time here ... He's a physical kid, he's a multi-positional guy. He's still learning. Technically, he's still a freshman even though he's been here in the program for a [half] year. He's made a huge jump especially physically, and now it's about transferring that to the court." Maybe Battle is intentionally downplaying expectations given how much Cooley's been burned, but on face value, this does not scream a guy they expect to be an impact player this year. I don't think this is bad at all, but if he were expected to make a big impact, I think we'd be hearing "he was one of the best players in practice last year" or "McKenna's on a mission, etc." That's all, though. OK. As much as we would like every player to be an impact player, if McKenna played 15 minutes a game (averaging say 5 & 4 & 1), competently rebounded and defended, didn't look lost at either 3 or 4, and was ready to take over for Peavy next year, his year would be a resounding success
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 26, 2024 17:55:08 GMT -5
The video interview with Battle, I think? His comments weren't negative, but they weren't what you'd hear about a guy about to take the league by storm. "Drew McKenna, he came to us mid-year and it was a learning curve for him. But he's totally transformed his body during the time here ... He's a physical kid, he's a multi-positional guy. He's still learning. Technically, he's still a freshman even though he's been here in the program for a [half] year. He's made a huge jump especially physically, and now it's about transferring that to the court." Maybe Battle is intentionally downplaying expectations given how much Cooley's been burned, but on face value, this does not scream a guy they expect to be an impact player this year. I don't think this is bad at all, but if he were expected to make a big impact, I think we'd be hearing "he was one of the best players in practice last year" or "McKenna's on a mission, etc." That's all, though. OK. As much as we would like every player to be an impact player, if McKenna played 15 minutes a game (averaging say 5 & 4 & 1), competently rebounded and defended, didn't look lost at either 3 or 4, and was ready to take over for Peavy next year, his year would be a resounding success Agree.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jun 26, 2024 18:13:46 GMT -5
Why am I lost here? What recent comments and about whom? The video interview with Battle, I think? His comments weren't negative, but they weren't what you'd hear about a guy about to take the league by storm. "Drew McKenna, he came to us mid-year and it was a learning curve for him. But he's totally transformed his body during the time here ... He's a physical kid, he's a multi-positional guy. He's still learning. Technically, he's still a freshman even though he's been here in the program for a [half] year. He's made a huge jump especially physically, and now it's about transferring that to the court." Maybe Battle is intentionally downplaying expectations given how much Cooley's been burned, but on face value, this does not scream a guy they expect to be an impact player this year. I don't think this is bad at all, but if he were expected to make a big impact, I think we'd be hearing "he was one of the best players in practice last year" or "McKenna's on a mission, etc." That's all, though. Okay, but did Battle really hype anyone in that q&a? No. One could claim that he could have been more generous to Fielder too but he kept it mid. He made sure to be thankful for Epps, Fielder and McKenna for returning and towards the end when the interviewer was trying to wrap it up with a question about Fielder and someone else, Battle made sure to talk about McKenna. To be perfectly blunt there was not much one could take from the interview, definitely nothing that was downplaying McKenna. "Still learning" is cliche coach speech that is tossed around for various reasons when the player is new. I am going to step back from this because at this point we are all making educated guesses or going with a gut feelings. But I have to say that from my perspective people seem to be projecting when it comes to McKenna despite nothing concrete to go by. At the same time Burks, who has not lit the world on fire based on any inside info provided by any of the Hoyas' sites or twitter, appear to be spotted as a starter who has huge upside because...he came from Kentucky?? That's my main gripe.
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Post by hoyariv71 on Jun 27, 2024 9:01:36 GMT -5
I hope we put an end to this thread, the title is so insulting to these guys ready to work to get Gtown back!!!!!
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jul 2, 2024 16:16:25 GMT -5
I hope we put an end to this thread, the title is so insulting to these guys ready to work to get Gtown back!!!!! The title is 2024-25 Roster Discussion. How is that insulting? Or maybe the moderators moved it from a different thread. I am not sure if I am tired from work and missing something, or if it just makes no sense. In any event, I am excited to see all of our guys play this coming November. I won't be able to attend Kenner and will happily read anything about it. I do wonder if Kenner's move to Howard (and thus Georgetown's lack of control), will result in more of the ganes getting put online. I know it's opened up a lot in the last few years, though, even while at Georgetown.
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Post by hoyariv71 on Jul 3, 2024 6:28:55 GMT -5
I hope we put an end to this thread, the title is so insulting to these guys ready to work to get Gtown back!!!!! The title is 2024-25 Roster Discussion. How is that insulting? Or maybe the moderators moved it from a different thread. I am not sure if I am tired from work and missing something, or if it just makes no sense. In any event, I am excited to see all of our guys play this coming November. I won't be able to attend Kenner and will happily read anything about it. I do wonder if Kenner's move to Howard (and thus Georgetown's lack of control), will result in more of the ganes getting put online. I know it's opened up a lot in the last few years, though, even while at Georgetown. yes, the thread used to be called something like I see no improvement in the new players. I get it, I have loved Gtown since 1982 and just want to see a good team again, but let’s support these guys. It’s not a knock on last years guys talent or effort but I think we have a chance to be a lot better this year. PRAYING LOL
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 3, 2024 20:41:55 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Jul 3, 2024 21:34:27 GMT -5
I believe the pressure is on the staff to get the players to perform in a cohesive and consistent manner. Interesting starting lineup..
It’s one of the better recruiting classes, on paper, that Georgetown has had in a while. However, with so much new on the roster, it remains to be seen how the team will gel with one another and if the wins will follow.
Four months til tip. See you in the fall.
Early Prediction for Georgetown Starting Lineup: PG: Malik Mack SG: Jayden Epps SF: Micah Peavy PF: Drew Fielder C: Thomas Sorber
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Post by hoyariv71 on Jul 4, 2024 8:48:08 GMT -5
I believe the pressure is on the staff to get the players to perform in a cohesive and consistent manner. Interesting starting lineup..
It’s one of the better recruiting classes, on paper, that Georgetown has had in a while. However, with so much new on the roster, it remains to be seen how the team will gel with one another and if the wins will follow.
Four months til tip. See you in the fall.
Early Prediction for Georgetown Starting Lineup: PG: Malik Mack SG: Jayden Epps SF: Micah Peavy PF: Drew Fielder C: Thomas SorberI agree with the starting lineup at this point. I think Mack, Epps and Sorber are locks, I think McKenna and Peavy could go either way and fielder and ward could also, whoever plays better with the other 3.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 4, 2024 10:56:30 GMT -5
I'd be super proud of that article if I were a seventh grader. Gotta start somewhere. One of the big problems with the internet blogosphere is there is little to no mentorship and even less professional editing.
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Post by conshyhoya on Jul 4, 2024 19:58:34 GMT -5
I believe the pressure is on the staff to get the players to perform in a cohesive and consistent manner. Interesting starting lineup..
It’s one of the better recruiting classes, on paper, that Georgetown has had in a while. However, with so much new on the roster, it remains to be seen how the team will gel with one another and if the wins will follow.
Four months til tip. See you in the fall.
Early Prediction for Georgetown Starting Lineup: PG: Malik Mack SG: Jayden Epps SF: Micah Peavy PF: Drew Fielder C: Thomas SorberI agree with the starting lineup at this point. I think Mack, Epps and Sorber are locks, I think McKenna and Peavy could go either way and fielder and ward could also, whoever plays better with the other 3. So you think it is up in the air between a guy who hasn't played a game in a year and a half (none in college) and one of the best defenders in the country? That is an odd take. Peavy is 100% starting. I don't see Sorber as a lock as a starter. He hasn't played a game yet and they barely practiced so not sure how he locked up his job already. If for some odd reason Fielder is going to be a 4 this year then yeah Sorber is a lock as there is literally no one else. Fielder should be a 4 but I don't think that is going to be much of an option with the roster construction lacking any other viable centers other than them two. The starters will be Mack, Epps, Peavy, Fielder and the last one if up for grabs probably based on who looks the best or where they want to play Peavy and Fielder. Who is Ward? Do you mean Burks or Williams?
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Post by jwp91 on Jul 4, 2024 21:31:24 GMT -5
I agree with the starting lineup at this point. I think Mack, Epps and Sorber are locks, I think McKenna and Peavy could go either way and fielder and ward could also, whoever plays better with the other 3. So you think it is up in the air between a guy who hasn't played a game in a year and a half (none in college) and one of the best defenders in the country? That is an odd take. Peavy is 100% starting. I don't see Sorber as a lock as a starter. He hasn't played a game yet and they barely practiced so not sure how he locked up his job already. If for some odd reason Fielder is going to be a 4 this year then yeah Sorber is a lock as there is literally no one else. Fielder should be a 4 but I don't think that is going to be much of an option with the roster construction lacking any other viable centers other than them two. The starters will be Mack, Epps, Peavy, Fielder and the last one if up for grabs probably based on who looks the best or where they want to play Peavy and Fielder. Who is Ward? Do you mean Burks or Williams? 100%
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Post by jwp91 on Jul 4, 2024 21:45:53 GMT -5
The fact that in his recent podcast interview, Mack mentioned Burks twice as one of his first mentions when talking about his teammates tells me something. Perhaps there is a bit of rapport, respect or at a minimum early friendship. I wouldn’t bet my life on it, but I would guess there is some rapport on the court too.
I went back and re-listened. By my listen he mentioned every scholarship player except McKenna. This only means that McKenna wasn’t top of mind. I suggest not over-reading into this, but if he were showing up to be a starter so far, he might be more top of mind.
Mack seemed to me to list the top weapons….himself, Epps, Peavy, Burks and Sorber/Fielder. Will Cooley agree with Mack? Who knows…but Mack has more access to make assessments than any of us.
Not saying any of this is conclusive but for those practiced in the art of reading tea leaves, I think there are potential inferences to be made.
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Post by hoyariv71 on Jul 5, 2024 6:56:19 GMT -5
So you think it is up in the air between a guy who hasn't played a game in a year and a half (none in college) and one of the best defenders in the country? That is an odd take. Peavy is 100% starting. I don't see Sorber as a lock as a starter. He hasn't played a game yet and they barely practiced so not sure how he locked up his job already. If for some odd reason Fielder is going to be a 4 this year then yeah Sorber is a lock as there is literally no one else. Fielder should be a 4 but I don't think that is going to be much of an option with the roster construction lacking any other viable centers other than them two. The starters will be Mack, Epps, Peavy, Fielder and the last one if up for grabs probably based on who looks the best or where they want to play Peavy and Fielder. Who is Ward? Do you mean Burks or Williams? 100% I apologize, I meant burks! I have no problem with you take on Peavy vs McKenna, you are probably correct esp chalky since defense wins games, I’m just high on a McKenna. I’m all in on a Sorber, I believe he will be all big East freshman team, he is almost a five star player with a great offensive game and solid D. I agree, the fact no solid backup center may come back to haunt us, in the fact the it puts Fielder and Burks out of position. Lastly, I think the one of the biggest things to watch is out bench, this may be one of keys, Mulready, Williams, Burks/Filder, McKenna and Louisville kid, apologize can’t think of his name, on paper big upgrade. Go Hoyas 2024
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Post by jwp91 on Jul 5, 2024 8:21:29 GMT -5
I like Thomas Sorber a lot. I just hope he is ready for Big East basketball in the same timeframe in which we need him. He wouldn't be the first freshman big to need time to adjust to a new level of play. And he wouldn't be the first to make a big impact as a freshman either.
He will be fun to watch.
I expect we will see all 10 scholarship players contributing one way or another.
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