EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 11, 2024 21:42:47 GMT -5
Any dollars to Cook would have no bearing on offers to 25-26 kids. I think it was a bad look by Cooley to speak about Cooks NIL ask, speaking on it publicly hurts the kids leverage. Agree. How can it matter seeing how we know Cook won’t be around in 25-26? |
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Post by prhoya on Jun 11, 2024 22:23:16 GMT -5
Depends on the NIL$ source.Agree. How can it matter seeing how we know Cook won’t be around in 25-26? Because that’s how NIL$ works. I’m trying not to post as much in the off-season so I will not get into a classic back-&-forth with you. |
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 12, 2024 4:58:18 GMT -5
How can it matter seeing how we know Cook won’t be around in 25-26? Because that’s how NIL$ works. I’m trying not to post as much in the off-season so I will not get into a classic back-&-forth with you. It’s impossible for a player who won’t be on the team in future seasons tie up a scholarship or possible PT, seems to me the same principle will apply to NIL dollars. I get that NIL is still a mystery in many ways but in this instance it seems pretty straightforward |
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Post by prhoya on Jun 12, 2024 7:42:43 GMT -5
Because that’s how NIL$ works. I’m trying not to post as much in the off-season so I will not get into a classic back-&-forth with you. It’s impossible for a player who won’t be on the team in future seasons tie up a scholarship or possible PT, seems to me the same principle will apply to NIL dollars. I get that NIL is still a mystery in many ways but in this instance it seems pretty straightforward Not the same principle at all. Scholarships are regulated at a maximum of 13 per year. PT is controlled by the head coach and has a limit of 40 minutes per player. NIL$ allegedly is controlled by outside sources, is regulated loosely (for now), varies from year to year (depending on the outside sources and donor/sponsorship commitments), has no limit (for now), and does not have to be used within a particular timeframe or season (again, depends on the agreement with the donor/sponsor). I agree with you that NIL is still a mystery in many ways. Oops, I did it again. No more posts on this from me to you… |
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 12, 2024 9:02:42 GMT -5
It’s impossible for a player who won’t be on the team in future seasons tie up a scholarship or possible PT, seems to me the same principle will apply to NIL dollars. I get that NIL is still a mystery in many ways but in this instance it seems pretty straightforward Not the same principle at all. Scholarships are regulated at a maximum of 13 per year. PT is controlled by the head coach and has a limit of 40 minutes per player. NIL$ allegedly is controlled by outside sources, is regulated loosely (for now), varies from year to year (depending on the outside sources and donor/sponsorship commitments), has no limit (for now), and does not have to be used within a particular timeframe or season (again, depends on the agreement with the donor/sponsor). I agree with you that NIL is still a mystery in many ways. Oops, I did it again. No more posts on this from me to you… While all of what you've posted here is true to some degree, you still haven't explained how a player who's out of eligibility for the 25-26 season and therefore unable to receive NIL money can impact the potential NIL of players who won't be eligible until the 25-26 season. What Peavy is getting this season in NIL has no bearing on the recruitments of Cam Ward or Acaden Lewis imho. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 12, 2024 11:04:20 GMT -5
Your bring him back because we need to add somebody, the pickings are getting slim, and he’s a kid you already know and who already has some familiarity with the staff, their systems, and the school. I’ve said before that I’d like to have him on as the fourth man in a three-man rotation, so to speak. Don’t really want him as the third man in a three-man rotation, but if the only other alternative is a two-man rotation, I’d take it. It also might be very helpful to Sorber and Fielder to have an experienced big who could teach them a few tricks about playing in the paint. |
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Post by HometownHoya on Jun 12, 2024 12:24:53 GMT -5
Not the same principle at all. Scholarships are regulated at a maximum of 13 per year. PT is controlled by the head coach and has a limit of 40 minutes per player. NIL$ allegedly is controlled by outside sources, is regulated loosely (for now), varies from year to year (depending on the outside sources and donor/sponsorship commitments), has no limit (for now), and does not have to be used within a particular timeframe or season (again, depends on the agreement with the donor/sponsor). I agree with you that NIL is still a mystery in many ways. Oops, I did it again. No more posts on this from me to you… While all of what you've posted here is true to some degree, you still haven't explained how a player who's out of eligibility for the 25-26 season and therefore unable to receive NIL money can impact the potential NIL of players who won't be eligible until the 25-26 season. What Peavy is getting this season in NIL has no bearing on the recruitments of Cam Ward or Acaden Lewis imho. NIL isn't like scholarships where you have 13 to use every year and they're fully funded. NIL is like a bag of money, you take out from it and there is no guarantee it will be replaced. Partially why people though we had such an incredible bag this year, because Cooley "saved" some from last year to use in the future. |
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Post by bostonfan on Jun 12, 2024 12:58:57 GMT -5
If they are going to bring Cook back, and I hope they do, wouldn't it be better to do that soon, so he has time to start working with the team over the summer. No doubt he had struggles last year defensively, but he always played hard, was a fairly consistent scorer and was the teams best rebounder. I was hoping the team could attract a legit rim protector/shot blocker, but that does not seem to be in the cards and I think Cook will help Sorber as he gets used to D1 college hoops
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jun 12, 2024 13:13:33 GMT -5
I will say this: Cook returning can make a real difference!
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 12, 2024 13:25:31 GMT -5
While all of what you've posted here is true to some degree, you still haven't explained how a player who's out of eligibility for the 25-26 season and therefore unable to receive NIL money can impact the potential NIL of players who won't be eligible until the 25-26 season. What Peavy is getting this season in NIL has no bearing on the recruitments of Cam Ward or Acaden Lewis imho. NIL isn't like scholarships where you have 13 to use every year and they're fully funded. NIL is like a bag of money, you take out from it and there is no guarantee it will be replaced. Partially why people though we had such an incredible bag this year, because Cooley "saved" some from last year to use in the future. You could very well be right, I hope you aren't though because that would be problematic recruiting-wise. I would have hoped that these big donors would have made at least a 3 year commitment to the program. |
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Post by conshyhoya on Jun 12, 2024 15:37:26 GMT -5
I am not understanding the argument for Cook returning. I guess if your thinking of Cook as a body for practice purposes or a few minutes of reserve duty each game off the bench, then it makes sense, but frankly how much time would he get and would you want him to get that time at the expense of developing other players like Sorber and Fielder who have more than one year of eligibility left? I am not anti-Cook and loved his effort and energy last year, but all agree he was an undersized post with very limited range on the offensive end and a liability on defense. To what end would his return serve in terms of developing the program? Additionally, why would he want to come back with only 1 year of eligibility remaining if he was not going to get major minutes on the floor. The argument is we only have Fielder, Burks and Sorber for the 4/5 position so between foul trouble and injuries you need someone else. Peavy can play the 4 if needed but rather not. Cook wasn't my first choice but he does play hard and is a known player. You don't need to worry about him taking up too much time from Sorber and Fielder as they can't possibly fill all the minutes currently available. Also it is unknown what we will get from Burks and Sorber so you need some insurance. If Cook can't get what he wants elsewhere we should definitely bring him back at this point. |
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Post by jwp91 on Jun 12, 2024 18:11:38 GMT -5
If you read the tea leaves here, this is not likely to happen.
If you apply Accam's Razor, the reason he isn't committed to the Hoyas on June 12 is because he is not returning.
And for those who with to speculate with hypotheticals, if my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jun 12, 2024 18:59:10 GMT -5
If you read the tea leaves here, this is not likely to happen. If you apply Accam's Razor, the reason he isn't committed to the Hoyas on June 12 is because he is not returning. And for those who with to speculate with hypotheticals, if my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle. I really think this may be an area where either way we are fine. If he comes back, it's a nice depth piece and he is a good offensive player. If he doesn't, by default, we lose one of our worst defenders who led to our woes last year, and he won't stunt the growth of Sorber/Fielder. The main reason why it's a no-brainer to bring him back is that there is no apparent better person out there willing to come to Georgetown. If you had told me in March that he was going to transfer, I would have said "that makes sense because we'll get a better veteran center." But, we haven't. |
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Post by Filo on Jun 14, 2024 15:23:52 GMT -5
Cook = Duck. According to Rothstein anyway.
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Post by jackofjoy on Jun 14, 2024 16:43:31 GMT -5
To answer the thread title ... Nope.
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 14, 2024 16:54:05 GMT -5
Lock it up!
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