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Post by practice on Feb 18, 2024 9:56:05 GMT -5
Danny Wolf must have been reading his HoyaTalk press clippings. He's laying a real egg tonight. 0-8 from the field, 0pts late at Princeton. Team is down 8 at the under 4. With Sorber, Cook and Fielder as bigs -- I'd much rather prefer to get a shot-blocker/rim-runner type to shore up the frontline. Someone like Tomlin -- the kid who was dismissed from KState and ended up at Memphis. I'm hoping, however, that a seasoned -- someone who has been a starter for 3-4 year -- PG is at the top of the list.
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Post by dense on Feb 18, 2024 12:49:49 GMT -5
Danny Wolf must have been reading his HoyaTalk press clippings. He's laying a real egg tonight. 0-8 from the field, 0pts late at Princeton. Team is down 8 at the under 4. With Sorber, Cook and Fielder as bigs -- I'd much rather prefer to get a shot-blocker/rim-runner type to shore up the frontline. Someone like Tomlin -- the kid who was dismissed from KState and ended up at Memphis. I'm hoping, however, that a seasoned -- someone who has been a starter for 3-4 year -- PG is at the top of the list. I agree but that's not the opinion most have on this board. Felix Okpara of Ohio St. Is my preferred choice. A top 60 recruit. He has started for 2 years in the Big Ten. Doesn't need plays run for him. Is a great lob catcher. Can handle it enough to move the ball on the perimeter and is an elite shot blocker. Freshman year highlights;
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Post by hoyasaxa18 on Feb 18, 2024 14:24:13 GMT -5
Danny Wolf must have been reading his HoyaTalk press clippings. He's laying a real egg tonight. 0-8 from the field, 0pts late at Princeton. Team is down 8 at the under 4. With Sorber, Cook and Fielder as bigs -- I'd much rather prefer to get a shot-blocker/rim-runner type to shore up the frontline. Someone like Tomlin -- the kid who was dismissed from KState and ended up at Memphis. I'm hoping, however, that a seasoned -- someone who has been a starter for 3-4 year -- PG is at the top of the list. Agreed on both counts here. AJ Hoggard of MSU is rumored to be considering transferring and would be a perfect fit. He had a relationship with Cooley coming out of HS, but the competition would be steep.
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Post by practice on Feb 18, 2024 14:26:22 GMT -5
With Sorber, Cook and Fielder as bigs -- I'd much rather prefer to get a shot-blocker/rim-runner type to shore up the frontline. Someone like Tomlin -- the kid who was dismissed from KState and ended up at Memphis. I'm hoping, however, that a seasoned -- someone who has been a starter for 3-4 year -- PG is at the top of the list. I agree but that's not the opinion most have on this board. Felix Okpara of Ohio St. Is my preferred choice. A top 60 recruit. He has started for 2 years in the Big Ten. Doesn't need plays run for him. Is a great lob catcher. Can handle it enough to move the ball on the perimeter and is an elite shot blocker. Freshman year highlights; Again, point guard has to be the priority ... but in terms of another big man, Okpara looks like the Cadillac version of what we need ... definitely should make a run, but big NIL $$$ -- if that's a consideration -- should be on a starting PG. I am beginning to think that Cooley's greatest failure this season was not signing up a veteran/high caliber point guard. Look at the difference that a player like Posh Alexander - and I wouldn't characterize him as elite -- is making for Butler. He's a senior who arrived with more than 80 starts ... he's settled down, he has a great coach and he's bought into what they are doing. RayJ Dennis at Baylor -- formerly from Toledo -- another great example. Think if Cooley had gone all in and made Ace Baldwin an offer -- then a 3 year starter at VCU now averaging 14 pts, 5.3 assists and shooting 43% and 34% at Penn State -- you think we still lose Holy Cross (1 pt), TCU (1), Seton Hall (4), @ Xavier (1), @ Seton Hall (6)? If we were 12-13 and 3-10 in the BE ... I also don't think we'd be taking some of these beatings. We'd still be not good ... but we wouldn't stink and appear to be noncompetitive in league games.
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 18, 2024 14:33:02 GMT -5
With Sorber, Cook and Fielder as bigs -- I'd much rather prefer to get a shot-blocker/rim-runner type to shore up the frontline. Someone like Tomlin -- the kid who was dismissed from KState and ended up at Memphis. I'm hoping, however, that a seasoned -- someone who has been a starter for 3-4 year -- PG is at the top of the list. I agree but that's not the opinion most have on this board. Felix Okpara of Ohio St. Is my preferred choice. A top 60 recruit. He has started for 2 years in the Big Ten. Doesn't need plays run for him. Is a great lob catcher. Can handle it enough to move the ball on the perimeter and is an elite shot blocker. Freshman year highlights; Okpara v. Edey right now. Okpara fouled out but did block one Edey shot.
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 18, 2024 15:49:33 GMT -5
I agree but that's not the opinion most have on this board. Felix Okpara of Ohio St. Is my preferred choice. A top 60 recruit. He has started for 2 years in the Big Ten. Doesn't need plays run for him. Is a great lob catcher. Can handle it enough to move the ball on the perimeter and is an elite shot blocker. Freshman year highlights; Again, point guard has to be the priority ... but in terms of another big man, Okpara looks like the Cadillac version of what we need ... definitely should make a run, but big NIL $$$ -- if that's a consideration -- should be on a starting PG. I am beginning to think that Cooley's greatest failure this season was not signing up a veteran/high caliber point guard. Look at the difference that a player like Posh Alexander - and I wouldn't characterize him as elite -- is making for Butler. He's a senior who arrived with more than 80 starts ... he's settled down, he has a great coach and he's bought into what they are doing. RayJ Dennis at Baylor -- formerly from Toledo -- another great example. Think if Cooley had gone all in and made Ace Baldwin an offer -- then a 3 year starter at VCU now averaging 14 pts, 5.3 assists and shooting 43% and 34% at Penn State -- you think we still lose Holy Cross (1 pt), TCU (1), Seton Hall (4), @ Xavier (1), @ Seton Hall (6)? If we were 12-13 and 3-10 in the BE ... I also don't think we'd be taking some of these beatings. We'd still be not good ... but we wouldn't stink and appear to be noncompetitive in league games. Ace Baldwin is a bad example - he followed his head coach Rhodes from VCU to Penn State. It's extremely unlikely Baldwin would have come to Georgetown even "if Cooley had gone all in and made Ace Baldwin an offer". I'm not convinced a "veteran/high caliber point guard" is our biggest need. For consideration: Player A, in his first year transferring into the Big East: 29.3 minutes/game, 32.0% fg, 28.1% 3fg, 6.7 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 5.9 apg Player B, in his first year transferring into the Big East: 21.4 minutes/game, 40.1% fg, 34.4% 3fg, 7.6 ppg, 2.1 rpg, 2.6 apg Who is Player A and who is Player B?
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 18, 2024 19:56:11 GMT -5
Danny Wolf must have been reading his HoyaTalk press clippings. He's laying a real egg tonight. 0-8 from the field, 0pts late at Princeton. Team is down 8 at the under 4. With Sorber, Cook and Fielder as bigs -- I'd much rather prefer to get a shot-blocker/rim-runner type to shore up the frontline. Someone like Tomlin -- the kid who was dismissed from KState and ended up at Memphis. I'm hoping, however, that a seasoned -- someone who has been a starter for 3-4 year -- PG is at the top of the list. When has Cooley & staff ever had rim runners for bigs? It hasn't been his style, he's lived off of tough, versatile forwards(Henton, Bentil, Diallo, Bullock) and rugged bigs (Batts, Watson, Croswell) in his front-courts. For the back-court & wings, I just want players who know how to play & be effective without the ball in their hands. This team has zero ball movers & players who fit that bill. An interesting stat is that Horchler & Minaya led his best team in minutes during BE games but were 5th & 6th in FGA's on the team a couple of years ago. That's the team to mirror in my view
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Post by raleighfriar on Feb 18, 2024 21:47:35 GMT -5
Sounds like Mintz is a lock for the Hoyas. I see pluses and minuses to it. Likely won’t get any other high level ball handlers, but y’all will have plenty of scoring options
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Post by thedragon on Feb 18, 2024 22:15:30 GMT -5
Sounds like Mintz is a lock for the Hoyas. I see pluses and minuses to it. Likely won’t get any other high level ball handlers, but y’all will have plenty of scoring options Very premature to call anything a lock in February. Mintz probably won't put his Syracuse condo on the market til early March.
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Post by TC on Feb 18, 2024 22:23:01 GMT -5
Very premature to call anything a lock in February. Exactly - potato chips or no potato chips, too early to think anything is a lock.
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 18, 2024 23:42:15 GMT -5
Sounds like Mintz is a lock for the Hoyas. I see pluses and minuses to it. Likely won’t get any other high level ball handlers, but y’all will have plenty of scoring options I’d think we could do much better than Mintz.
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Post by thedragon on Feb 19, 2024 0:01:48 GMT -5
Sounds like Mintz is a lock for the Hoyas. I see pluses and minuses to it. Likely won’t get any other high level ball handlers, but y’all will have plenty of scoring options I’d think we could do much better than Mintz. Then we may be fortunate that what you think carries very little weight around here. I'd have some team-first concerns- but he's a 6'4 PG who's a preseason Naismith watch player in the top 5 in scoring in the ACC. We could do worse.
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Post by dense on Feb 19, 2024 0:13:17 GMT -5
I’d think we could do much better than Mintz. Then we may be fortunate that what you think carries very little weight around here. I'd have some team-first concerns- but he's a 6'4 PG who's a preseason Naismith watch player in the top 5 in scoring in the ACC. We could do worse. My main concern as well. He can be a passer but he is more of a get my own as a default. Also he seems to be clashing with Autry a lot because he has not started a game or 2 lately and hasn't been playing PG some. We could do worse and I'd be worried about him and Epps and if anyone else would see the ball. 😂
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Post by dense on Feb 19, 2024 0:14:08 GMT -5
Sounds like Mintz is a lock for the Hoyas. I see pluses and minuses to it. Likely won’t get any other high level ball handlers, but y’all will have plenty of scoring options I'm assuming this is coming from Trilly Donovan?
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Post by raleighfriar on Feb 19, 2024 6:27:13 GMT -5
100%.
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Post by practice on Feb 19, 2024 8:16:36 GMT -5
Sounds like Mintz is a lock for the Hoyas. I see pluses and minuses to it. Likely won’t get any other high level ball handlers, but y’all will have plenty of scoring options I'm assuming this is coming from Trilly Donovan? I think I've seen Mintz on at least one mock draft board ... my experience is limited to the beatdown he led against the Hoyas earlier in the season ... looked like a borderline pro at that point ... wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't try to make the leap after this season ... needs to be a better 3pt shooter but other than that has a lot of measurables for the next level.
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Post by practice on Feb 19, 2024 8:48:23 GMT -5
With Sorber, Cook and Fielder as bigs -- I'd much rather prefer to get a shot-blocker/rim-runner type to shore up the frontline. Someone like Tomlin -- the kid who was dismissed from KState and ended up at Memphis. I'm hoping, however, that a seasoned -- someone who has been a starter for 3-4 year -- PG is at the top of the list. When has Cooley & staff ever had rim runners for bigs? It hasn't been his style, he's lived off of tough, versatile forwards(Henton, Bentil, Diallo, Bullock) and rugged bigs (Batts, Watson, Croswell) in his front-courts. For the back-court & wings, I just want players who know how to play & be effective without the ball in their hands. This team has zero ball movers & players who fit that bill. An interesting stat is that Horchler & Minaya led his best team in minutes during BE games but were 5th & 6th in FGA's on the team a couple of years ago. That's the team to mirror in my view You know that Cooley came to Georgetown in no small part get better players than he could get at Providence, right? Very far from proving that so far, but that was part of the stated rationale.
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 19, 2024 9:09:39 GMT -5
When has Cooley & staff ever had rim runners for bigs? It hasn't been his style, he's lived off of tough, versatile forwards(Henton, Bentil, Diallo, Bullock) and rugged bigs (Batts, Watson, Croswell) in his front-courts. For the back-court & wings, I just want players who know how to play & be effective without the ball in their hands. This team has zero ball movers & players who fit that bill. An interesting stat is that Horchler & Minaya led his best team in minutes during BE games but were 5th & 6th in FGA's on the team a couple of years ago. That's the team to mirror in my view You know that Cooley came to Georgetown in no small part get better players than he could get at Providence, right? Very far from proving that so far, but that was part of the stated rationale. I do know that but does that mean he'll change the type of players who've made him successful as a coach?
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Post by practice on Feb 19, 2024 9:19:34 GMT -5
You know that Cooley came to Georgetown in no small part get better players than he could get at Providence, right? Very far from proving that so far, but that was part of the stated rationale. I do know that but does that mean he'll change the type of players who've made him successful as a coach? We shall see ... good question. I wonder if his style changed from Fairfield to Providence.
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Post by reformation on Feb 19, 2024 9:50:43 GMT -5
You don't need to change the type of player to get better players. The very best players are a little quicker and better shooter than guys a level below. Being the same player and a 5-10% better shooter can make a big winning/losing diff
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