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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 25, 2024 10:29:45 GMT -5
Writing about Kim Mulkey being a grouch Whatever the Mulkey story is, (a) it's national news and (b) it's not about Mulkey being a grouch. No sane editor would prioritize some Hoyas or Terps offseason piece over that. Yes, she's more than a grouch. No, it's not national news. The Washington Post covers far too little of Washington sports in its unrequited quest to be the Old Gray Lady.
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Post by TC on Mar 25, 2024 10:40:56 GMT -5
Yes, she's more than a grouch. No, it's not national news. Type "Kim Mulkey Washington Post" into Google News and see what you get (answer : pages of summaries of the controversy, speculation what might be in it, women's Sweet 16 articles that all mention the story, etc). Type that into Twitter and see what you get. It is absolutely national news and at least a week of free Washington Post advertising. Even if the story ends up a dud, it has been a PR bonanza.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 25, 2024 10:50:36 GMT -5
Good article - they obviously gave Jay Wright time to grow into his role, so it makes sense to do the same thing with Neptune. That said, from a pure Xs/Os standpoint, his in-game coaching seems horrific and it has been for two years now. They've had plenty of talent, they just don't run anything offensively that's worth a darn. The other thing is that we are currently in an era where there are very few nights off in the Big East. Neptune is clearly outmatched by people like Hurley, Pitino, McDermott, Smart, Miller, etc. I think they owe it to him to give him a shot, he was put in a very tough spot after Wright retired & Nova tapped him to succeed him.
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Post by guru on Mar 25, 2024 11:42:31 GMT -5
Give the Inquirer credit for calling the question. The lack of any serious commentary by the Post on the ditch Georgetown is in, and to a lesser extent, Maryland, speaks to a sports department trying to stay off an HR cut list. Writing about Kim Mulkey being a grouch and the vagaries of the US men's soccer team do nothing for local sports discussion. Georgetown is no longer a topic of local sports discussion, and really hasn’t been for quite some time. It’s a long road back, and only winning - a lot - will traverse it.
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Post by guru on Mar 25, 2024 11:43:45 GMT -5
Whatever the Mulkey story is, (a) it's national news and (b) it's not about Mulkey being a grouch. No sane editor would prioritize some Hoyas or Terps offseason piece over that. Yes, she's more than a grouch. No, it's not national news. The Washington Post covers far too little of Washington sports in its unrequited quest to be the Old Gray Lady. It’s not national news? LOL. wut
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Post by guru on Mar 25, 2024 11:45:34 GMT -5
Whatever the Mulkey story is, (a) it's national news and (b) it's not about Mulkey being a grouch. No sane editor would prioritize some Hoyas or Terps offseason piece over that. Yes, she's more than a grouch. No, it's not national news. The Washington Post covers far too little of Washington sports in its unrequited quest to be the Old Gray Lady. It’s a business. And no one outside of a few dozen on this board wants to read about Georgetown basketball.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 25, 2024 14:46:28 GMT -5
I do not subscribe to the Washington Post, and because their paywall is relatively aggressive, I only occasionally read their content. In 2024, how much of a "hometown" paper is the Washington Post? I realize they will cover things like Potomac Yards and major events, but how much do they cover other DC sports? I assume they at least give token coverage to the Redskins and Nationals. One of the areas where DC has always been behind NY, for example, on local media is the absence of papers like the NY Post or NY Daily News that more aggressively cover sports. For example, it's no coincidence that almost all the local media articles on Pitino are in the NY Post. It's not coming from the New York Times.
In smaller markets, where there are no professional sports, it makes sense that the local papers cover collegiate sports, especially when they are more successful than Georgetown has been over the last decade. But, when you consider all the professional sports, and the fact that the Washington Post is clearly aiming for a bigger audience than just the DC area, I can see why local sports coverage is limited.
Would Georgetown benefit from an outlet like the Washington Post covering the program well? Absolutely, because it would bring a level of credibility that is non-existent in the fan-based news sites that are often based on few facts and a lot of speculation. And of course, it is easier for an outlet like the Washington Post to push for an interview with Ed Cooley, for example, than Casual Hoya or Hilltop Hoops. But, that's really the main value. Otherwise, all of us would be getting most of our news from other sources anyway. Does anybody really need a Washington Post recap of a game? Those of us who are really interested will have that information well before the Washington Post publishes anything. As far as more casual readers, could it help garner interest? Maybe on the margins, but when we are losing as much as we have been, it's doubtful. And as far as the actual paper/print version of the paper, it is essentially irrelevant for most people under 40 (and many older than that too).
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 26, 2024 8:40:08 GMT -5
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 26, 2024 8:47:28 GMT -5
If Seton Hall loses Sha, that could be devastating to their program. A big gut punch.
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 26, 2024 9:05:12 GMT -5
If Seton Hall loses Sha, that could be devastating to their program. A big gut punch. If it happens, they should call Willard and see if he’d come back. Miller and Matta have set the precedent within the Big East. Willard is one year away from being fired in College Park.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 26, 2024 10:15:47 GMT -5
If we lose Shaheen that is a big blow to the Big East and a direct result of UVA Val not vocally sticking up for the conference when the NCAA selection committee committed those travesties of justice. (UVA, Texas A&M, Boise State, mediocre Big Ten, Mountain West, big 12, and Sec teams) If you can’t Make the NCAA tournament with a 13-7 conference record and beating the best team in the nation (ran Clingan off the court with the pace) and Marquette the I can’t blame anyone for leaving for a more protected conference.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 26, 2024 10:17:14 GMT -5
Good article - they obviously gave Jay Wright time to grow into his role, so it makes sense to do the same thing with Neptune. That said, from a pure Xs/Os standpoint, his in-game coaching seems horrific and it has been for two years now. They've had plenty of talent, they just don't run anything offensively that's worth a darn. The other thing is that we are currently in an era where there are very few nights off in the Big East. Neptune is clearly outmatched by people like Hurley, Pitino, McDermott, Smart, Miller, etc. Mediocre . . .
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 26, 2024 11:16:44 GMT -5
If we lose Shaheen that is a big blow to the Big East and a direct result of UVA Val not vocally sticking up for the conference when the NCAA selection committee committed those travesties of justice. (UVA, Texas A&M, Boise State, mediocre Big Ten, Mountain West, big 12, and Sec teams) If you can’t Make the NCAA tournament with a 13-7 conference record and beating the best team in the nation (ran Clingan off the court with the pace) and Marquette the I can’t blame anyone for leaving for a more protected conference. If Holloway leaves, it's not going to be because of Val Ackerman. All these people complaining about Val Ackerman act as if she threw a fit it would somehow change the result? Once the decision was made, it wasn't going to change. Seton Hall is probably the weakest positioned school in the conference when it comes to resources. It would be hard to blame any Seton Hall coach for leaving that lack of resources to go to a much wealthier program. Let's be real.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 26, 2024 11:21:57 GMT -5
If we lose Shaheen that is a big blow to the Big East and a direct result of UVA Val not vocally sticking up for the conference when the NCAA selection committee committed those travesties of justice. (UVA, Texas A&M, Boise State, mediocre Big Ten, Mountain West, big 12, and Sec teams) If you can’t Make the NCAA tournament with a 13-7 conference record and beating the best team in the nation (ran Clingan off the court with the pace) and Marquette the I can’t blame anyone for leaving for a more protected conference. If Holloway leaves, it's not going to be because of Val Ackerman. All these people complaining about Val Ackerman act as if she threw a fit it would somehow change the result? Once the decision was made, it wasn't going to change. Seton Hall is probably the weakest positioned school in the conference when it comes to resources. It would be hard to blame any Seton Hall coach for leaving that lack of resources to go to a much wealthier program. Let's be real. Did UVA deserve to be in this tournament? Yes or no. Did Seton Hall deserve to be in this tournament?
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 26, 2024 11:46:54 GMT -5
If Holloway leaves, it's not going to be because of Val Ackerman. All these people complaining about Val Ackerman act as if she threw a fit it would somehow change the result? Once the decision was made, it wasn't going to change. Seton Hall is probably the weakest positioned school in the conference when it comes to resources. It would be hard to blame any Seton Hall coach for leaving that lack of resources to go to a much wealthier program. Let's be real. Did UVA deserve to be in this tournament? Yes or no. Did Seton Hall deserve to be in this tournament? You are conflating two things that are separate. I've told you--now multiple times--that I did not think UVA should be in and that Seton Hall was deserving. That is a separate question from whether Val Ackerman throwing a fit would have put Seton Hall into the tournament in 2024. It would not have. Nor do you address my other point, which is that Seton Hall has a lot bigger systemic problems (notably, lack of resources and NIL) in holding onto its coaches than Val Ackerman.
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 26, 2024 12:15:01 GMT -5
Did UVA deserve to be in this tournament? Yes or no. Did Seton Hall deserve to be in this tournament? You are conflating two things that are separate. I've told you--now multiple times--that I did not think UVA should be in and that Seton Hall was deserving. That is a separate question from whether Val Ackerman throwing a fit would have put Seton Hall into the tournament in 2024. It would not have. Nor do you address my other point, which is that Seton Hall has a lot bigger systemic problems (notably, lack of resources and NIL) in holding onto its coaches than Val Ackerman. Ackerman has not had a banner couple weeks but you can't blame Shaheen if he leaves Seton Hall for Louisville. 100 out of 100 coaches would do the same thing. They are two programs in completely different stratospheres.
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 26, 2024 13:21:15 GMT -5
"College basketball transfer portal: Indiana and Arkansas highlight the top programs hunting point guards These teams will be big-game hunting for some of the top point guards in the 2024 transfer portal cycle... UCONN HUSKIES Dan Hurley inked top-30 freshman guard Ahmad Nowell, and backup point guard Hassan Diarra still has another year of eligibility if he wants to use it. But, UConn will certainly be active in the point guard market with All-American Tristen Newton exhausting his eligibility. Hurley has been exceptional in the transfer portal in the last two cycles. Following in Newton and Cam Spencer's footsteps should be attractive. UConn is primed for success in the portal, yet again." 247sports.com/longformarticle/college-basketball-transfer-portal-ncaa-basketball-teams-in-need-of-point-guards-229359555/#2394933
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Post by thedragon on Mar 26, 2024 16:21:14 GMT -5
PC fans understandably excited.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 26, 2024 17:08:45 GMT -5
Did UVA deserve to be in this tournament? Yes or no. Did Seton Hall deserve to be in this tournament? You are conflating two things that are separate. I've told you--now multiple times--that I did not think UVA should be in and that Seton Hall was deserving. That is a separate question from whether Val Ackerman throwing a fit would have put Seton Hall into the tournament in 2024. It would not have. Nor do you address my other point, which is that Seton Hall has a lot bigger systemic problems (notably, lack of resources and NIL) in holding onto its coaches than Val Ackerman. “Val Ackerman throwing a fit”no results that is your opinion not fact. Dan Hurley, Holloway, McDermott, Pitino, Kim English etc have all thrown a “fit” SilenT Val?
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Post by hoyaguy on Mar 26, 2024 18:44:02 GMT -5
You are conflating two things that are separate. I've told you--now multiple times--that I did not think UVA should be in and that Seton Hall was deserving. That is a separate question from whether Val Ackerman throwing a fit would have put Seton Hall into the tournament in 2024. It would not have. Nor do you address my other point, which is that Seton Hall has a lot bigger systemic problems (notably, lack of resources and NIL) in holding onto its coaches than Val Ackerman. “Val Ackerman throwing a fit”no results that is your opinion not fact. Dan Hurley, Holloway, McDermott, Pitino, Kim English etc have all thrown a “fit” SilenT Val? Sooooo Val flipping out would make the committee go back after selection Sunday and say oh whoops Val is right, UVA sorry you're out. Is that what you expect to happen in that scenario? (Yes that's is a serious question based on what you've been saying) I'm more curious about what's your issue with Val? I would shocked that your only issue with her is this instance considering how hard you are trying to push this weird narrative. Someone would have to be insane to not take the Louisville job over Seton hall.
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