TC
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Post by TC on Mar 31, 2023 11:49:31 GMT -5
It probably helps tremendously that his daughter is a current senior, and thus he probably has better insight into where the students hang out and what they like. It was quite comical that Ewing drove to Wisey’s to greet students that time, almost like someone at the TAC said “I hear the kids like Wisemiller’s” and Pat went out and punched it into his GPS. Having a direct line into the non-basketball-player student body must give Cooley a leg up in identifying impactful meet-and-greet opportunities. Crouch set that up. I think Ewing must have had his arm twisted in order to even leave the TAC in an SUV.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 31, 2023 12:11:50 GMT -5
It probably helps tremendously that his daughter is a current senior, and thus he probably has better insight into where the students hang out and what they like. It was quite comical that Ewing drove to Wisey’s to greet students that time, almost like someone at the TAC said “I hear the kids like Wisemiller’s” and Pat went out and punched it into his GPS. Having a direct line into the non-basketball-player student body must give Cooley a leg up in identifying impactful meet-and-greet opportunities. Crouch set that up. I think Ewing must have had his arm twisted in order to even leave the TAC in an SUV. Yes, it had a little of that " How do you do, fellow kids?" cringe, but spoke volumes about the isolation that the basketball office maintained from Georgetown life as a whole. Just as the nexus of Ewing's undergraduate years was between Village A and McDonough Gym, Ewing and staff rarely ventured far from of the Thompson Center and the nearby parking garage. How much attention and/or free publicity would have been engendered had Ewing been seen more frequently on campus, attended the Athletic Hall of Fame ceremonies, the Black Alumni Summit, or even walked into Yates one day and played a little three on three with some students? It was likely never even considered. Ewing was head coach during four John Carroll Award Weekends, attended by over 1,000 alumni, parents, and donors to Georgetown in any one year. He attended none of them. This year's event in San Francisco has already announced that Ed Cooley (listed as "Parent, '23") will be participating in a panel discussion with Lee Reed. That's a positive step.
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jackofjoy
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Post by jackofjoy on Mar 31, 2023 21:44:20 GMT -5
On a related note, hope those 10 year old tweets dug up on a Hoya related Twitter account (that just went private) are fakes. If not, yeesh
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 1, 2023 13:05:03 GMT -5
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hoya9797
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Post by hoya9797 on Apr 1, 2023 15:48:05 GMT -5
On a related note, hope those 10 year old tweets dug up on a Hoya related Twitter account (that just went private) are fakes. If not, yeesh Which account?
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 1, 2023 16:12:52 GMT -5
Love seeing this - he is making the rounds!
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Post by hoyas315 on Apr 1, 2023 18:46:57 GMT -5
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 1, 2023 23:00:19 GMT -5
It probably helps tremendously that his daughter is a current senior, and thus he probably has better insight into where the students hang out and what they like. It was quite comical that Ewing drove to Wisey’s to greet students that time, almost like someone at the TAC said “I hear the kids like Wisemiller’s” and Pat went out and punched it into his GPS. Having a direct line into the non-basketball-player student body must give Cooley a leg up in identifying impactful meet-and-greet opportunities. Crouch set that up. I think Ewing must have had his arm twisted in order to even leave the TAC in an SUV. You have been trashing the coaches and players for over 12 years. Players, families and recruits read that. You should just stop.
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Post by miracles87 on Apr 2, 2023 2:25:03 GMT -5
Admin To-Do List
1- Lock this thread
2- Unlock Ezewiro thread
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Apr 2, 2023 9:10:42 GMT -5
It’s great to see Coach mingling with the students on campus instead of schmoozing with the coaches at the Final Four
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Post by daveg023 on Apr 3, 2023 11:28:59 GMT -5
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Post by hoyajmw on Apr 3, 2023 18:16:32 GMT -5
Speaking of other Hilltop sports, and while not worthy of its own thread (and I’m pretty sure Ed won’t be there) Hoyas hosting Providence Wednesday 3pm — in softball, at the Nats Youth Academy in Anacostia (where Hoyas play their home games). Doubleheader against the Friars starting noon Thursday too. Very different fan bases for hoops and softball (I may be alone in the intersection of the Venn Diagrams) so doubt there will be much animosity, but I know I’ll have even more reason to cheer…P.S. just remembered I will NOT be alone.I met parents of a current softball starter at the Big East, pregaming. Just recently became hoops fans and yet there they were at the BET. Major points for school spirit
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Post by hoyajmw on Apr 5, 2023 22:14:53 GMT -5
Speaking of other Hilltop sports, and while not worthy of its own thread (and I’m pretty sure Ed won’t be there) Hoyas hosting Providence Wednesday 3pm — in softball, at the Nats Youth Academy in Anacostia (where Hoyas play their home games). Doubleheader against the Friars starting noon Thursday too. Very different fan bases for hoops and softball (I may be alone in the intersection of the Venn Diagrams) so doubt there will be much animosity, but I know I’ll have even more reason to cheer…P.S. just remembered I will NOT be alone.I met parents of a current softball starter at the Big East, pregaming. Just recently became hoops fans and yet there they were at the BET. Major points for school spirit For those wondering — I know there must be at least a couple of you out there — softball played two today, moving a game up a day to beat anticipated weather tomorrow afternoon. In almost storybook fashion, Hoyas swept, including a two run come from behind walk off win in the bottom of the 7th in game two. The sweep moved Hoyas from 7th in conference to fifth, which is meaningful because top 6 teams make the BET in softball now…. Team is composed almost entirely of players from elsewhere, and I spent a good chunk of the day asking and then informing parents as to the meaning of “Hoyas” and “Hoya Saxa.” I’m sure they’ll all be thankful at SOME point…
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 7, 2023 12:26:55 GMT -5
Hurley stated that the formula for winning a championship is to recruit three future NBA players and build a strong core roster around them.
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Post by CTHoya08 on Apr 7, 2023 13:21:16 GMT -5
Why didn't anyone think of that before?
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 7, 2023 13:50:07 GMT -5
Why didn't anyone think of that before? That’s why they pay him the big bucks. 🤣 He did deliver on the plan though.
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Post by bills on Apr 7, 2023 13:59:29 GMT -5
Hurley stated that the formula for winning a championship is to recruit three future NBA players and build a strong core roster around them. He also said that he was recruiting people who wanted to play for him and NIL was not important in that decision. And he was recruiting high school seniors to play for 4 years and will use the Transfer Portal to fill in a couple of spots when needed. This appears to be very different from what most schools appear to be doing with NIL allowed and the one transfer policy. I question if any school can continue to compete without being reasonably competitive in having NIL opportunities available to recruits and in not recognizing the higher value of someone who has high performance at the D1 level, even if at a mid major, and would be using their transfer option to join your team over most players coming out of High School.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 7, 2023 14:11:21 GMT -5
Hurley stated that the formula for winning a championship is to recruit three future NBA players and build a strong core roster around them. He also said that he was recruiting people who wanted to play for him and NIL was not important in that decision. And he was recruiting high school seniors to play for 4 years and will use the Transfer Portal to fill in a couple of spots when needed. This appears to be very different from what most schools appear to be doing with NIL allowed and the one transfer policy. I question if any school can continue to compete without being reasonably competitive in having NIL opportunities available to recruits and in not recognizing the higher value of someone who has high performance at the D1 level, even if at a mid major, and would be using their transfer option to join your team over most players coming out of High School. Hurley recruited many of these guys before NIL existed or when it was in the nascent stages, though. There just aren't going to be a lot of guys offered high amounts of NIL money who opt to not take it. It's too big an incentive and there's frankly no reason for players to pass it up. I do think recruiting solely from transfers or heavily from transfers is oversold sometimes, as high school recruiting still matters a lot. But, we are definitely in a different world than we were even 5 years ago.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 7, 2023 14:19:03 GMT -5
I think having upperclassmen is critical. Maturity and experience. However you get there.
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Post by bills on Apr 7, 2023 17:20:00 GMT -5
If as a head coach your primary recruiting focus was rising sophomores in the Transfer Portal you would have several key benefits over recruiting graduating high school athletes.
1. You would have all the data from their high school careers PLUS their data for a year played at a higher level of competition and playing 30 games. 2. You would have athletes who are a year more physically mature. 3. You would have team members who would have to sit out a year if they transferred. If you leave that program you don’t care if they get a waiver to transfer. But you will have pretty low turnover until they graduate or enter the NBA draft with an agent. This you a chance to develop your players into your offensive and defensive programs.
5* one-and-done recruits are only going to be there for a year or maybe two so those would be recruited directly out of high school. But how many of them are you going to get each year. Maybe some high 4* fall into that category as well. Why not focus on 3 people who have performed very well at the D1 level, maybe on the all freshman team for a mid major conference and have 9 solid players who have bought into your program to surround a star recruit.
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