hoyajinx
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Post by hoyajinx on Aug 17, 2024 16:30:50 GMT -5
Your appetite for tax cuts is not dispositive of the issue of promised tax cuts being a cynical vote buy. Besides, I was referencing the tax cuts from 2017 that bought votes. I am not convinced this is a cynical vote buy; it’s attempting to address an issue that is plaguing prospective homebuyers. Again, I’ve already addressed the issue, and without knowing what the fully fleshed-out proposal is, I won’t commit to an opinion on it. That’s not an unreasonable stance. However, I do think both Trump and Harris are engaging in a similar cynical proposal: no tax on tips. It’s bad policy and seems incredibly arbitrary, except in its effort to gain vote share from hourly workers. Also, it’s susceptible to manipulation. For me, that is much worse than the housing proposal which seems to have at least some hurdles in order for individuals to qualify. But again, I reserve judgment. Fair enough. Enjoy your weekend. You as well. And best of luck to Harry. I hope he enjoys his time in school.
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Post by Elvado on Aug 17, 2024 17:19:31 GMT -5
Fair enough. Enjoy your weekend. You as well. And best of luck to Harry. I hope he enjoys his time in school. Thank you. I am sure he will do great but am nervous just the same.
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 17, 2024 17:22:13 GMT -5
Poor Demented Donnie. He's so confused! Don't his family members worry about his mental health??
Donald Trump is still talking about President Joe Biden dropping out. In his speech today in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., he claimed it was an “overthrow.” “What happened to Biden? I was running against Biden and now I’m running against someone else,” he told the crowd. “I said, who am I running against, Harris? I said who the hell is Harris?”
During his speech in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., Donald Trump continued to complain about the Time magazine cover featuring Vice President Kamala Harris: “They have this unbelievable artist drawing her.” He also appeared to be referring to Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan writing that one of Harris’s advantages is her physical appearance. “She said Kamala has one big advantage, she’s a beautiful woman,” he said. “I say I am much better looking than her … I’m a better looking person than Kamala.”
-- WaPo, 8/17/24, 6:02 pm
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 17, 2024 17:29:31 GMT -5
You as well. And best of luck to Harry. I hope he enjoys his time in school. Thank you. I am sure he will do great but am nervous just the same. Twas (and will be) ever thus. Otherwise we would not be parents. To the extent that such "giveaways" would get to people who do not come from generational wealth and assist them on their way to achieving some of that where otherwise they might not have, I think that is a good thing. There is always a wide gap between aspiration and execution where campaign promises are concerned, regardless of the side of the political aisle. As mentioned, hearing more about the detail will help each of us decide how to characterize proposals such as these. In addition, whether they actually come to fruition also involves convincing those in the other party that they are a good idea as well. If that does not happen, you're right that these may never see the light of day (as described in a campaign).
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Post by hoyarooter on Aug 17, 2024 20:05:22 GMT -5
Kamala seems to understand that the middle and lower middle classes are getting left behind in this country, and that something needs to be done to support them. I'm not sure her decisions are optimal (or that any of them will see the light of day even if she is elected and Congress remains divided, as is fairly likely), but they still beat in spades some of the absolute garbage that is coming out of Project 2025 (what's that, saith Trump, never heard of it).
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Post by tashoya on Aug 17, 2024 21:08:10 GMT -5
A "Republican" being aggrieved about "asset shifting" is, undoubtedly, the most hilarious thing I've ever read on this board. The hypocrisy is so transparent as to make the eyeglasses I'm currently wearing seem opaque.
Best of luck to Harry. I hope he loves his time in college.
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hoyajinx
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Post by hoyajinx on Aug 18, 2024 4:55:27 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Aug 18, 2024 6:06:29 GMT -5
Because his party is not seeking to orchestrate a palace coup and replace him… The media still dances to the DNC music…
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Post by hoyajinx on Aug 18, 2024 6:29:54 GMT -5
Because his party is not seeking to orchestrate a palace coup and replace him… The media still dances to the DNC music… Coup? Really? Thanks for injecting the Fox News talking points. Before it was elder abuse to have Biden out there, now it’s a coup when he’s replaced. Pick a lane.
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 18, 2024 8:13:09 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Aug 18, 2024 8:17:28 GMT -5
Because his party is not seeking to orchestrate a palace coup and replace him… The media still dances to the DNC music… Coup? Really? Thanks for injecting the Fox News talking points. Before it was elder abuse to have Biden out there, now it’s a coup when he’s replaced. Pick a lane. And the media sat idly by until the word went out that he had to go. A 3 year nap from covering his decline became a five alarm fire.
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Post by hoyajinx on Aug 18, 2024 8:41:33 GMT -5
Coup? Really? Thanks for injecting the Fox News talking points. Before it was elder abuse to have Biden out there, now it’s a coup when he’s replaced. Pick a lane. And the media sat idly by until the word went out that he had to go. A 3 year nap from covering his decline became a five alarm fire. You literally watch a channel that paid three quarters of a billion dollars for outright lying to its viewers in an effort to help Trump overturn a free and fair election. Excuse me if I chuckle at your hollow indictment of the media.
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Post by Elvado on Aug 18, 2024 8:51:57 GMT -5
And the media sat idly by until the word went out that he had to go. A 3 year nap from covering his decline became a five alarm fire. You literally watch a channel that paid three quarters of a billion dollars for outright lying to its viewers in an effort to help Trump overturn a free and fair election. Excuse me if I chuckle at your hollow indictment of the media. I don’t watch politicaI news; it turns my stomach. I watch local Channel 6 here in Philly. I believe Biden, compromised as he was then, won in 2020. That the mainstream media missed his continued deterioration, speaks either to the efficiency of the DNC deception or the willful blindness of the media.
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hoyajinx
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Post by hoyajinx on Aug 18, 2024 8:59:50 GMT -5
You literally watch a channel that paid three quarters of a billion dollars for outright lying to its viewers in an effort to help Trump overturn a free and fair election. Excuse me if I chuckle at your hollow indictment of the media. I don’t watch politicaI news; it turns my stomach. I watch local Channel 6 here in Philly. I believe Biden, compromised as he was then, won in 2020. That the mainstream media missed his continued deterioration, speaks either to the efficiency of the DNC deception or the willful blindness of the media. Which gives rise to a question: if you don’t consume political news, how do you know that the media wasn’t reporting on Biden’s decline? How are you aware of their supposed about face? It’s a lot like Trump saying he doesn’t know anything about Project 2025, but he also somehow disagrees with it.
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Post by Elvado on Aug 18, 2024 9:03:16 GMT -5
I don’t watch politicaI news; it turns my stomach. I watch local Channel 6 here in Philly. I believe Biden, compromised as he was then, won in 2020. That the mainstream media missed his continued deterioration, speaks either to the efficiency of the DNC deception or the willful blindness of the media. Which gives rise to a question: if you don’t consume political news, how do you know that the media wasn’t reporting on Biden’s decline? How are you aware of their supposed about face? It’s a lot like Trump saying he doesn’t know anything about Project 2025, but he also somehow disagrees with it. I read several papers a day online. WSJ, Philadelphia Inquirer and New York Post (Mets junkie). I have watched Channel 6 (ABC affiliate) every day for the last 27 years and they have never covered his slipping. How could this be?
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Post by prhoya on Aug 18, 2024 9:33:58 GMT -5
Which gives rise to a question: if you don’t consume political news, how do you know that the media wasn’t reporting on Biden’s decline? How are you aware of their supposed about face? It’s a lot like Trump saying he doesn’t know anything about Project 2025, but he also somehow disagrees with it. I read several papers a day online. WSJ, Philadelphia Inquirer and New York Post (Mets junkie). I have watched Channel 6 (ABC affiliate) every day for the last 27 years and they have never covered his slipping. How could this be? I’ll join jinx and call BS on this one. You know and repeat the FoxNews talking points. It’s too much of a coincidence for me.
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Post by Elvado on Aug 18, 2024 9:39:46 GMT -5
I read several papers a day online. WSJ, Philadelphia Inquirer and New York Post (Mets junkie). I have watched Channel 6 (ABC affiliate) every day for the last 27 years and they have never covered his slipping. How could this be? I’ll join jinx and call BS on this one. You know and repeat the FoxNews talking points. It’s too much of a coincidence for me. Oh however will I sleep tonight? . Do you read the NYPost?
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Post by hoyajinx on Aug 18, 2024 9:40:08 GMT -5
Which gives rise to a question: if you don’t consume political news, how do you know that the media wasn’t reporting on Biden’s decline? How are you aware of their supposed about face? It’s a lot like Trump saying he doesn’t know anything about Project 2025, but he also somehow disagrees with it. I read several papers a day online. WSJ, Philadelphia Inquirer and New York Post (Mets junkie). I have watched Channel 6 (ABC affiliate) every day for the last 27 years and they have never covered his slipping. How could this be? So to be clear, you read the WSJ (Murdoch owned with an op/ed section that is basically a Fox News fever dream), the Post (see WSJ but replace “op/ed section” with “entire ‘news’paper”), and two local outlets. And you use this as proof that there was no one questioning Biden? That’s not a compelling argument. Have you considered consuming any political media that doesn’t confirm your biases? Maybe one that isn’t in the Murdoch conglomerate of insurrectionist fantasies? I read literally everything, including Fox News (unfortunately) and the WSJ just to see if I am missing an angle on something. The Post doesn’t even count. Fox News literally NEVER offers anything of value; even the “news” aspect of it is terminally stupid. The WSJ’s news is generally pretty good with a right of center view, but, as noted, the op/ed section is mostly demented ramblings. I know we’ve gone far afield here, but I encourage you to get out of your media bubble. You literally parrot exact talking points from the Murdoch media machine even if you want to disclaim Fox News as the source.
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Post by Elvado on Aug 18, 2024 9:46:14 GMT -5
I read several papers a day online. WSJ, Philadelphia Inquirer and New York Post (Mets junkie). I have watched Channel 6 (ABC affiliate) every day for the last 27 years and they have never covered his slipping. How could this be? So to be clear, you read the WSJ (Murdoch owned with an op/ed section that is basically a Fox News fever dream), the Post (see WSJ but replace “op/ed section” with “entire ‘news’paper”), and two local outlets. And you use this as proof that there was no one questioning Biden? That’s not a compelling argument. Have you considered consuming any political media that doesn’t confirm your biases? Maybe one that isn’t in the Murdoch conglomerate of insurrectionist fantasies? I read literally everything, including Fox News (unfortunately) and the WSJ just to see if I am missing an angle on something. The Post doesn’t even count. Fox News literally NEVER offers anything of value; even the “news” aspect of it is terminally stupid. The WSJ’s news is generally pretty good with a right of center view, but, as noted, the op/ed section is mostly demented ramblings. I know we’ve gone far afield here, but I encourage you to get out of your media bubble. You literally parrot exact talking points from the Murdoch media machine even if you want to disclaim Fox News as the source. Please recommend an unbiased news source. I’ll wait. Or, you can tell me which major network or daily called out Biden’s decline pre debate meltdown.
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Post by hoyajinx on Aug 18, 2024 10:01:57 GMT -5
So to be clear, you read the WSJ (Murdoch owned with an op/ed section that is basically a Fox News fever dream), the Post (see WSJ but replace “op/ed section” with “entire ‘news’paper”), and two local outlets. And you use this as proof that there was no one questioning Biden? That’s not a compelling argument. Have you considered consuming any political media that doesn’t confirm your biases? Maybe one that isn’t in the Murdoch conglomerate of insurrectionist fantasies? I read literally everything, including Fox News (unfortunately) and the WSJ just to see if I am missing an angle on something. The Post doesn’t even count. Fox News literally NEVER offers anything of value; even the “news” aspect of it is terminally stupid. The WSJ’s news is generally pretty good with a right of center view, but, as noted, the op/ed section is mostly demented ramblings. I know we’ve gone far afield here, but I encourage you to get out of your media bubble. You literally parrot exact talking points from the Murdoch media machine even if you want to disclaim Fox News as the source. Please recommend an unbiased news source. I’ll wait. Or, you can tell me which major network or daily called out Biden’s decline pre debate meltdown. You’re kidding right? Do you not recall the days leading up to the State of the Union where news outlets everywhere were speculating that the SotU could be Biden’s chance to dispel notions of his decline or reinforce them? That was in March. Oh, that’s right. You only consume Murdoch political news. In terms of “unbiased news”, I have no recommendation. My only recommendation was that you get out of the Murdoch-sphere for a second and maybe read some other insights. There is a reason why people on here think you only watch Fox News, and it’s clear that it’s because of a Murdoch heavy diet. I mean, calling what happened to Biden a coup reeks of Fox News stupidity.
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