hoyarooter
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 10,454
|
Post by hoyarooter on Jul 15, 2024 18:02:26 GMT -5
Am I sorry that someone took a shot at Trump? Yes. Do I feel sympathy toward him? Hell, no. Why should I feel sympathy for someone whose rhetoric has inspired death threats toward scores of people because they had the temerity to just try to do their jobs, or because they did something that Trump didn't like? Someone who was directly responsible for a violent attack on the Capitol in an effort to overthrow a fair and free election? Someone who mocked the attack on Paul Pelosi while his audience laughed? Yeah, he's a fine person, just like some of the fine people on both sides in Charlottesville.
|
|
Elvado
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 10,692
|
Post by Elvado on Jul 15, 2024 18:21:49 GMT -5
Am I sorry that someone took a shot at Trump? Yes. Do I feel sympathy toward him? Hell, no. Why should I feel sympathy for someone whose rhetoric has inspired death threats toward scores of people because they had the temerity to just try to do their jobs, or because they did something that Trump didn't like? Someone who was directly responsible for a violent attack on the Capitol in an effort to overthrow a fair and free election? Someone who mocked the attack on Paul Pelosi while his audience laughed? Yeah, he's a fine person, just like some of the fine people on both sides in Charlottesville. I give you credit for the courage of your convictions.
|
|
hoyajinx
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 2,588
|
Post by hoyajinx on Jul 15, 2024 18:29:34 GMT -5
Am I sorry that someone took a shot at Trump? Yes. Do I feel sympathy toward him? Hell, no. Why should I feel sympathy for someone whose rhetoric has inspired death threats toward scores of people because they had the temerity to just try to do their jobs, or because they did something that Trump didn't like? Someone who was directly responsible for a violent attack on the Capitol in an effort to overthrow a fair and free election? Someone who mocked the attack on Paul Pelosi while his audience laughed? Yeah, he's a fine person, just like some of the fine people on both sides in Charlottesville. I give you credit for being right.
|
|
|
Post by happyhoya1979 on Jul 15, 2024 20:43:46 GMT -5
The most gifted orator in the US Senate, John N. Kennedy says it best " The shooter isn't right wing, he isn't left wing, he's a broken wing."
|
|
DanMcQ
Moderator
Posts: 32,140
|
Post by DanMcQ on Jul 16, 2024 5:17:40 GMT -5
|
|
DanMcQ
Moderator
Posts: 32,140
|
Post by DanMcQ on Jul 16, 2024 5:19:45 GMT -5
|
|
hoyajinx
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 2,588
|
Post by hoyajinx on Jul 16, 2024 5:30:32 GMT -5
This is going to be the same thing that happened when Biden emphasized “unity” at the beginning of his term. Republicans hurled insults, lies, and stoked division, then when Democrats replied, Republicans would say “what happened to unity”? Now, Republicans will spew vitriol and hateful rhetoric, then complain when Democrats say literally anything about anything with “what happened to lowering the temperature”? Dishonesty is the Republican brand. If they refuse to “lower the temperature” while Democrats make a good faith effort to do so, democrats will be portrayed as weak punching bags. There’s no winning, so I encourage Democrats to do whatever will resonate most with voters because Republicans have no interest in playing fair.
|
|
DanMcQ
Moderator
Posts: 32,140
|
Post by DanMcQ on Jul 16, 2024 5:34:16 GMT -5
|
|
Massholya
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,016
|
Post by Massholya on Jul 16, 2024 11:14:31 GMT -5
|
|
hoyajinx
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 2,588
|
Post by hoyajinx on Jul 16, 2024 12:18:26 GMT -5
Kennedy supporters are being absolutely played. I’m not familiar with the Kennedy family tree, but I assume there had to be a fair amount of inbreeding to end up with Robert Kennedy, Jr. and his son.
|
|
tashoya
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 12,591
Member is Online
|
Post by tashoya on Jul 16, 2024 12:47:22 GMT -5
The most gifted orator in the US Senate, John N. Kennedy says it best " The shooter isn't right wing, he isn't left wing, he's a broken wing." Yeah... because he turned out not to be a Democrat. Meanwhile, mental health is another public health issue that the former Republican party couldn't care less about.
|
|
|
Post by happyhoya1979 on Jul 16, 2024 13:56:30 GMT -5
I know a lot of Republicans and many are very concerned with the mental health issues surrounding dementia particularly in the area of how it affects senior political leaders.
|
|
tashoya
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 12,591
Member is Online
|
Post by tashoya on Jul 16, 2024 14:12:16 GMT -5
I know a lot of Republicans and many are very concerned with the mental health issues surrounding dementia particularly in the area of how it affects senior political leaders. Again, when it's a Democrat. Your disingenuousness and selective caring is transparent and ridiculous. I don't recall your posts about dementia or general psychopathy with regard to Trump. What about all of the white guys that shoot up schools and bars, etc.? Has that lead a "Republican" charge for stricter background checks? I mean, since y'all are so concerned, it's shocking as to why NO steps have been made by the former Republican party in that regard.
|
|
DanMcQ
Moderator
Posts: 32,140
|
Post by DanMcQ on Jul 16, 2024 22:36:51 GMT -5
|
|
Elvado
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 10,692
|
Post by Elvado on Jul 17, 2024 18:31:38 GMT -5
If, and when, Biden is thrown overboard by the Democratic Party, how does party leadership square their full throated screaming about defending “our Democracy” while disenfranchising the 14 million primary voters who selected Joe?
|
|
prhoya
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 23,532
|
Post by prhoya on Jul 17, 2024 18:44:07 GMT -5
|
|
hoyarooter
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 10,454
|
Post by hoyarooter on Jul 17, 2024 19:24:44 GMT -5
If, and when, Biden is thrown overboard by the Democratic Party, how does party leadership square their full throated screaming about defending “our Democracy” while disenfranchising the 14 million primary voters who selected Joe? Come on, Elvado, this is ridiculous, and you know it. On the one hand, you've been claiming for weeks that Biden is demented, if not in so many words. Please feel free to correct me if that's not your position. And Biden has made it clear that he's not going to be forced out by anyone, so that if he chooses to withdraw, it will be because he considers that to be for the good of the country. But now you're bleating about the poor Biden delegates? This is disingenuous at best, and you can't have it both ways. Give it a rest.
|
|
Elvado
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 10,692
|
Post by Elvado on Jul 17, 2024 19:30:39 GMT -5
If, and when, Biden is thrown overboard by the Democratic Party, how does party leadership square their full throated screaming about defending “our Democracy” while disenfranchising the 14 million primary voters who selected Joe? Come on, Elvado, this is ridiculous, and you know it. On the one hand, you've been claiming for weeks that Biden is demented, if not in so many words. Please feel free to correct me if that's not your position. And Biden has made it clear that he's not going to be forced out by anyone, so that if he chooses to withdraw, it will be because he considers that to be for the good of the country. But now you're bleating about the poor Biden delegates? This is disingenuous at best, and you can't have it both ways. Give it a rest. If he “chooses” to withdraw it will be because the Party leaders met his price. I have contended he was demented for years. I think you are probably coming around on that one. I am not bleating for anyone. I find the circular firing squad of the Democratic Party riotous. I just want to hear the leaders who so love democracy explain why those 14 million votes don’t count.
|
|
DFW HOYA
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 5,865
|
Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 17, 2024 20:15:58 GMT -5
I just want to hear the leaders who so love democracy explain why those 14 million votes don’t count. It's a leading question. What did the leaders in the GOP say about the 15 percent of the votes case for Nikki Haley? Did they not count? There are two scenarios here: 1. A candidate drops out before the convention, as they all do, actively or not; or 2. A nominated candidate drops out before the election. Biden had one big hurdle entering the debate and he did not meet it. No one is accusing him of being the mastermind so artfully portrayed by Phil Hartman in days gone by, but the Democrats now face two scenarios along the lines of "the lady or the tiger": 1. Keep him and they probably don't win. 2. Drop him and they probably could win.
|
|
EtomicB
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 15,264
Member is Online
|
Post by EtomicB on Jul 17, 2024 20:17:25 GMT -5
Come on, Elvado, this is ridiculous, and you know it. On the one hand, you've been claiming for weeks that Biden is demented, if not in so many words. Please feel free to correct me if that's not your position. And Biden has made it clear that he's not going to be forced out by anyone, so that if he chooses to withdraw, it will be because he considers that to be for the good of the country. But now you're bleating about the poor Biden delegates? This is disingenuous at best, and you can't have it both ways. Give it a rest. If he “chooses” to withdraw it will be because the Party leaders met his price. I have contended he was demented for years. I think you are probably coming around on that one. I am not bleating for anyone. I find the circular firing squad of the Democratic Party riotous. I just want to hear the leaders who so love democracy explain why those 14 million votes don’t count. Who was the other choice in the primary for voters to choose from Elvado? You can't pretend as though the DNC allowed the primary race to be a truly contested event.
|
|