SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 24, 2022 18:49:30 GMT -5
We have ceded the governance of our country to septuagenarians. They are way out of touch with what average Americans want. The rest of us are too busy trying to support our families to participate in the process so it is run by retirees. Hopefully “God” will take care of all these born children, imperiled women and rape victims. However thousands of years of human history suggests he won’t and lately he’s been too focused on making sure the country he supposedly loves the most is supplied with as many guns and weapons of mass destruction as possible. “God’s glory” sure works in mysterious ways. The irony, of course, is that the so-called pro-life people couldn't care less about those you mentioned. The programs they refuse to support prove that objective fact. Life begins at conception and ends in elementary school as far as I can tell.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 24, 2022 18:55:50 GMT -5
Glory be to God. One small step for mankind. Hmm, perhaps. I am willing to hear an argument that certain abortions should be banned under certain circumstances, such as third trimester abortions where there is no risk to the life of the mother. However, consider: On MSNBC today (I know, that radical leftist network), I heard a story from the pre-Roe days about a pregnant woman who was told that her baby would be stillborn, and that giving birth would be very risky for her, but there was nothing the doctors could do. The baby was stillborn, and the mother died giving birth. In Texas, women having problem pregnancies that might require abortions are being sent home. Some are returning with sepsis. Some of those women are going to die. Thanks to some of the crazy laws that are being passed, we will see more and more situations like this. The legislators passing these laws and the governors signing them are murderers with blood on their hands. It's that simple. As I wrote earlier when citing my own family situation, it should only happen to them. Also, note that many religions do not believe that life begins at conception, or anywhere near it, such as in the first six weeks. As far as I'm concerned, these hyper-restrictive laws are violating our First Amendment freedom of religion rights.
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hoyajinx
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Post by hoyajinx on Jun 24, 2022 19:14:00 GMT -5
At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if Republicans tried to pass laws that if a woman drinks during at any time during a pregnancy, she should be charged with providing a minor with alcohol or contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Jun 24, 2022 19:22:07 GMT -5
"Republicans" and "pro-life" people are only cool with "abortions" that start at the 24th trimester and happen naturally as God intended: with assault rifles in schools.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 24, 2022 19:45:35 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 24, 2022 19:46:15 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 24, 2022 19:47:34 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 24, 2022 20:10:20 GMT -5
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Massholya
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Post by Massholya on Jun 24, 2022 20:44:56 GMT -5
Where? Sadly might be legal based on some of the new laws signed into some of these crazy red states. Life is sacred unless it’s blocking a public roadway.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Jun 24, 2022 21:05:03 GMT -5
Senator Collins is EXTREMELY EXTREMELY concerned!!! "Inconsistent" - you mean they perjured themselves?? “This decision is inconsistent with what Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh said in their testimony and their meetings with me, where they both were insistent on the importance of supporting long-standing precedents that the country has relied upon,” Collins said. www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/06/24/collins-manchin-kavanaugh-gorsuch-abortion-roe/
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 24, 2022 23:08:47 GMT -5
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Jun 24, 2022 23:25:40 GMT -5
Glory be to God. One small step for mankind. God over what the majority of what Americans want. Such great news for those that hate democracy and love a God that answers exactly no prayers. What a great day for those that believe in fairy tales but don't actually care about human lives. How do Zeus and Apollo feel about abortion? And, why weren't their fake thoughts considered?
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Jun 24, 2022 23:33:41 GMT -5
It's almost as though most Americans are pro abortion. Oh, right. We are. Strange how "Republicans" couldn't care less what the constituency wants. Ed and those of his ilk are in the minority. And, as a "patriot," he's celebrating the triumph of the minority. And, he and those he supports don't give a sh%t about human life. They prove it at every opportunity with their votes. Just as they're proving they care more about their own personal agendas over American democracy. Congrats, "Republicans." You've solidified the division. And, you've put the nail in your coffin because you're peeing into the wind. You got your short-term win. You also just solidified your own demise. Rot with it, a-holes.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Jun 24, 2022 23:51:10 GMT -5
As has someone else here posted, why don't "Christians" have an issue with God? 10-15% of pregnancies end in miscarriages. Anecdotally, I believe it's higher but, obviously, that's just my small sample size. But, your "God" is the most active "abortion" doctor in the history of the world. As religion is the cause of more deaths than any other cause in the history of the world. But, "God's" will, apparently, is more important than one's own free will. For those that claim to be pro-life and Christian, outside of having grown up in your faith and indoctrinated from an age before you were capable of critical thinking, why is your Bible right and your god is THE god and why is the Koran wrong and Allah is the wrong god and what makes you think any of it is credible. I get it. That's what "faith" is about. "Leap of faith?" Really? What they mean is suspend all sense of logic and reason. And, instead, believe that some dude came back to life and that a book of his teachings was transcribed after having been passed down by illiterate generation to illiterate generation in the worst version of a middle school game of telephone is the guiding text for people 3000 years later. When one says it like that, it sounds ridiculous and stupid. It sounds that way because, most likely, it is.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Jun 24, 2022 23:53:22 GMT -5
Did Dr. Seuss ever take any stance on abortion? At least he has some credibility. I didn't think I'd like green eggs and ham. He proved me wrong.
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Post by Elvado on Jun 25, 2022 4:23:39 GMT -5
It's almost as though most Americans are pro abortion. Oh, right. We are. Strange how "Republicans" couldn't care less what the constituency wants. Ed and those of his ilk are in the minority. And, as a "patriot," he's celebrating the triumph of the minority. And, he and those he supports don't give a sh%t about human life. They prove it at every opportunity with their votes. Just as they're proving they care more about their own personal agendas over American democracy. Congrats, "Republicans." You've solidified the division. And, you've put the nail in your coffin because you're peeing into the wind. You got your short-term win. You also just solidified your own demise. Rot with it, a-holes. I am sure you mean “pro-choice” and not pro-abortion but your point is taken. The decision a woman makes to carry or not carry a child must be gut-wrenching all by itself and the imposition of government interference must be simply intolerable. I hope that this decision forces the legislators to codify Roe on the federal level and end this nonsense once and for all.
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TC
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Post by TC on Jun 25, 2022 8:32:17 GMT -5
I hope that this decision forces the legislators to codify Roe on the federal level and end this nonsense once and for all. Let's wish for unicorns and rainbows too. The only thing that's going to be codified on the federal level is a federal criminalization of abortion as soon as your party grabs the House and 50 seats in the Senate. Or just the House and 48 seats, because Manchin and Sinema will probably go along with it. The big company I work for started offering travel health benefits for employees that have to travel out of state for abortions/gender care yesterday. I wish they'd stop supporting Republicans instead (symptoms / root cause).
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Massholya
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Post by Massholya on Jun 25, 2022 9:53:15 GMT -5
I hope that this decision forces the legislators to codify Roe on the federal level and end this nonsense once and for all. Let's wish for unicorns and rainbows too. The only thing that's going to be codified on the federal level is a federal criminalization of abortion as soon as your party grabs the House and 50 seats in the Senate. Or just the House and 48 seats, because Manchin and Sinema will probably go along with it. The big company I work for started offering travel health benefits for employees that have to travel out of state for abortions/gender care yesterday. I wish they'd stop supporting Republicans instead (symptoms / root cause). Apparently some of these states are now trying to make these types of benefits illegal as well. The only option may ultimately be for companies to stop doing business in these states and move operations to states that don’t try to limit the freedom of their people.
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Post by hoya73 on Jun 25, 2022 10:06:23 GMT -5
I hope that this decision forces the legislators to codify Roe on the federal level and end this nonsense once and for all. Let's wish for unicorns and rainbows too. The only thing that's going to be codified on the federal level is a federal criminalization of abortion as soon as your party grabs the House and 50 seats in the Senate. Or just the House and 48 seats, because Manchin and Sinema will probably go along with it. The big company I work for started offering travel health benefits for employees that have to travel out of state for abortions/gender care yesterday. I wish they'd stop supporting Republicans instead (symptoms / root cause). Well, it would take killing off the filibuster, and the hope against that is that Manchin and Sinema felt preserving the filibuster was paramount, during this Congress. Wait, I just read what I typed. Never mind, those hypocrites will go along with GOP level hypocrisy. I wonder if, at some point, the Thomas Court will go full 18th Century, giving men who father fetuses the right to decide whether the woman will have an abortion or not. I suspect the ruling is more about taking away women's rights than whether a fertilized embryo is a person.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 25, 2022 11:48:48 GMT -5
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