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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 15, 2022 20:59:20 GMT -5
PR, I’m glad you bit. Lol. Georgetown is smart institution that understands how business works. You have iconic figure that bring an audiences who may not have paid attention to Gtown brand until they hired the iconic figure. Whether it’s short or long term Gtown will benefit. Where are these audiences? We’re setting record low numbers in fan attendance at the games.
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Post by hoyaroc on Feb 15, 2022 21:04:20 GMT -5
PR, I’m glad you bit. Lol. Georgetown is smart institution that understands how business works. You have iconic figure that bring an audiences who may not have paid attention to Gtown brand until they hired the iconic figure. Whether it’s short or long term Gtown will benefit. Where are these audiences? We’re setting record low numbers in fan attendance at the games. See you miss the attired point I was making. Stop being emotional. USA is big country. I stated maybe not Cap Center in my earlier post. You have TV!!!!
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 15, 2022 21:05:44 GMT -5
Where are these audiences? We’re setting record low numbers in fan attendance at the games. See you miss the attired point I was making. Stop being emotional. USA is big country. I stated maybe not Cap Center in my earlier post. You have TV!!!! Are you drunk?
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Post by hoyaroc on Feb 15, 2022 21:06:34 GMT -5
See you miss the attired point I was making. Stop being emotional. USA is big country. I stated maybe not Cap Center in my earlier post. You have TV!!!! Are you drunk? Yes, I’m drunk on life.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 15, 2022 21:10:31 GMT -5
PR, I’m glad you bit. Lol. Georgetown is smart institution that understands how business works. You have iconic figure that bring an audiences who may not have paid attention to Gtown brand until they hired the iconic figure. Whether it’s short or long term Gtown will benefit. So, people were not paying attention to the Georgetown brand. Then Georgetown hired Patrick Ewing. Now people are paying attention? I am just failing to see any evidence supporting this. For what it's worth, Patrick Ewing was extremely well known and known to have come from Georgetown well before he was hired to coach here. When I was a high school student who didn't care about basketball, I still knew who Ewing was, and I knew he had gone to Georgetown as I was considering where to go to college. As a player clearly Ewing brought a lot of attention to Georgetown basketball. So, I'll give you that. I am just not sure how becoming the coach moved that needle in any way. Fans do not follow college basketball teams because of the guy up top (except maybe tafkashsee). They follow to watch a winning team or to enjoy a sport they like that is often associated with their alma mater. I promise TV ratings for our games and our attendance at our games will go up if, you know, we actually win a few games. Regardless of who the coach is. Also, I will say that had Ewing had a good record at Georgetown, it would have done wonders for the program, as the media wants that story. Other than 4 days last March, it just hasn't happened that way.
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Post by hoyaroc on Feb 15, 2022 21:20:25 GMT -5
PR, I’m glad you bit. Lol. Georgetown is smart institution that understands how business works. You have iconic figure that bring an audiences who may not have paid attention to Gtown brand until they hired the iconic figure. Whether it’s short or long term Gtown will benefit. So, people were not paying attention to the Georgetown brand. Then Georgetown hired Patrick Ewing. Now people are paying attention? I am just failing to see any evidence supporting this. For what it's worth, Patrick Ewing was extremely well known and known to have come from Georgetown well before he was hired to coach here. When I was a high school student who didn't care about basketball, I still knew who Ewing was, and I knew he had gone to Georgetown as I was considering where to go to college. As a player clearly Ewing brought a lot of attention to Georgetown basketball. So, I'll give you that. I am just not sure how becoming the coach moved that needle in any way. Fans do not follow college basketball teams because of the guy up top. They follow to watch a winning team or to enjoy a sport they like that is often associated with their alma mater. I promise TV ratings for our games and our attendance at our games will go up if, you know, we actually win a few games. Regardless of who the coach is. Also, I will say that had Ewing had a good record at Georgetown, it would have done wonders for the program, as the media wants that story. Other than 4 days last March, it just hasn't happened that way. Saxa2003, I respect your opinion. But I was having family and friends discussion during the SuperBowl party and I spoke about Gtown and everyone was that’s Patrick Ewing team even the younger adults at the party. They were saying I watch their games because Patrick Ewing. And they can’t name nobody else accept AI.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 15, 2022 21:29:16 GMT -5
So, people were not paying attention to the Georgetown brand. Then Georgetown hired Patrick Ewing. Now people are paying attention? I am just failing to see any evidence supporting this. For what it's worth, Patrick Ewing was extremely well known and known to have come from Georgetown well before he was hired to coach here. When I was a high school student who didn't care about basketball, I still knew who Ewing was, and I knew he had gone to Georgetown as I was considering where to go to college. As a player clearly Ewing brought a lot of attention to Georgetown basketball. So, I'll give you that. I am just not sure how becoming the coach moved that needle in any way. Fans do not follow college basketball teams because of the guy up top. They follow to watch a winning team or to enjoy a sport they like that is often associated with their alma mater. I promise TV ratings for our games and our attendance at our games will go up if, you know, we actually win a few games. Regardless of who the coach is. Also, I will say that had Ewing had a good record at Georgetown, it would have done wonders for the program, as the media wants that story. Other than 4 days last March, it just hasn't happened that way. Saxa2003, I respect your opinion. But I was having family and friend discussion during the SuperBowl party and I spoke about Gtown and everyone was that’s Patrick Ewing team even the younger adults at the party. They were saying I watch their games because Patrick Ewing. And they can’t name nobody else accept AI. Lol! They want to watch Patrick in the coaching box?! Yell “Move!”?! Or his NBA schemes on offense and defense?! Maybe trip a player or two?! I have never heard of someone who watches the games on tv because of the coach, not the players. Maybe if the product was awesome, then you would watch the whole team and staff at work, but the product is GU’s historical worst. In fact, our fellow posters keep writing how they are turning the games off or not watching at all.
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Post by EasyEd on Feb 15, 2022 21:45:13 GMT -5
Must be fun to kick someone when he is down. EasyEd, I hope you’re doing well. I don’t know about you, but I like to see how we’re doing vs opponents. These are just the numbers. Other posters have appreciated my effort. Pat is not down. When his dream job was not in the cards, Pat was handed a great gig he was not looking for and is earning approximately 8 times what he was making as an assistant coach in the NBA. In fact, he’s earning around what an average NBA head coach makes. He’ll be fine. pr, you posted this earlier and have posted updates several times. You have made your point clearly. To update it further does not change the message you are imparting but only kicks Ewing when he is down. And he is down; not out but down. Show some respect for a human being who happens to be our coach today.
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Post by guru on Feb 15, 2022 21:50:11 GMT -5
So, people were not paying attention to the Georgetown brand. Then Georgetown hired Patrick Ewing. Now people are paying attention? I am just failing to see any evidence supporting this. For what it's worth, Patrick Ewing was extremely well known and known to have come from Georgetown well before he was hired to coach here. When I was a high school student who didn't care about basketball, I still knew who Ewing was, and I knew he had gone to Georgetown as I was considering where to go to college. As a player clearly Ewing brought a lot of attention to Georgetown basketball. So, I'll give you that. I am just not sure how becoming the coach moved that needle in any way. Fans do not follow college basketball teams because of the guy up top. They follow to watch a winning team or to enjoy a sport they like that is often associated with their alma mater. I promise TV ratings for our games and our attendance at our games will go up if, you know, we actually win a few games. Regardless of who the coach is. Also, I will say that had Ewing had a good record at Georgetown, it would have done wonders for the program, as the media wants that story. Other than 4 days last March, it just hasn't happened that way. Saxa2003, I respect your opinion. But I was having family and friends discussion during the SuperBowl party and I spoke about Gtown and everyone was that’s Patrick Ewing team even the younger adults at the party. They were saying I watch their games because Patrick Ewing. And they can’t name nobody else accept AI. I was at a super bowl party where everyone agreed that Georgetown sucks at basketball now and that Patrick Ewing isn’t a good coach.
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Post by 617hoya on Feb 15, 2022 21:57:59 GMT -5
EasyEd, I hope you’re doing well. I don’t know about you, but I like to see how we’re doing vs opponents. These are just the numbers. Other posters have appreciated my effort. Pat is not down. When his dream job was not in the cards, Pat was handed a great gig he was not looking for and is earning approximately 8 times what he was making as an assistant coach in the NBA. In fact, he’s earning around what an average NBA head coach makes. He’ll be fine. pr, you posted this earlier and have posted updates several times. You have made your point clearly. To update it further does not change the message you are imparting but only kicks Ewing when he is down. And he is down; not out but down. Show some respect for a human being who happens to be our coach today. Nope, please keep posting, PR. It is appreciated and a good reminder.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 15, 2022 22:04:16 GMT -5
EasyEd, I hope you’re doing well. I don’t know about you, but I like to see how we’re doing vs opponents. These are just the numbers. Other posters have appreciated my effort. Pat is not down. When his dream job was not in the cards, Pat was handed a great gig he was not looking for and is earning approximately 8 times what he was making as an assistant coach in the NBA. In fact, he’s earning around what an average NBA head coach makes. He’ll be fine. pr, you posted this earlier and have posted updates several times. You have made your point clearly. To update it further does not change the message you are imparting but only kicks Ewing when he is down. And he is down; not out but down. Show some respect for a human being who happens to be our coach today. I’ve been posting updates after all games and will do so for the rest of the season, win or lose. I’m being fair and respectful, including just factual/accurate information, and not adding commentary. I did it for Esh, so it’s not like I’m picking on Pat. Just like back then, a very small number of posters didn’t appreciate it, but a lot of them did. To realize how bad the state of GU’s basketball program is right now, it’s important to visualize it and not hide from it. Did you see the record tables DFW added to the front page? Maybe you should complain to him about those.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 15, 2022 22:20:37 GMT -5
I did not read the in-game part of the thread, only the post-game commentary, but I am surprised that nobody comments on the lack of Mutombo. I know Ewing is looking for any combination that works, and I do not blame him for that at all, but there just seems to be no rhyme or reason. It also surprises me that Clark doesn't get more run.
For what it's worth, I don't think playing Mutombo more is going to yield wins, but he is a freshman and has the most promise of any big on the team. And, I think on balance, he's the better player than Wilson or Ighoefe, though all of them are different from one another.
I realize Clark, for example, could be limited, but is he really any worse than Rice when he's not hitting threes? I always think we should play to win, but considering we have zero shot of doing anything meaningful the rest of the way, the choices are a bit surprising to me.
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Post by hoyaroc on Feb 15, 2022 22:42:34 GMT -5
I did not read the in-game part of the thread, only the post-game commentary, but I am surprised that nobody comments on the lack of Mutombo. I know Ewing is looking for any combination that works, and I do not blame him for that at all, but there just seems to be no rhyme or reason. It also surprises me that Clark doesn't get more run. For what it's worth, I don't think playing Mutombo more is going to yield wins, but he is a freshman and has the most promise of any big on the team. And, I think on balance, he's the better player than Wilson or Ighoefe, though all of them are different from one another. I realize Clark, for example, could be limited, but is he really any worse than Rice when he's not hitting threes? I always think we should play to win, but considering we have zero shot of doing anything meaningful the rest of the way, the choices are a bit surprising to me. I totally agree. Why not, play Kobe and Ryan more minutes. Coach has nothing to lose now might as well play the freshman and sophomore.
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Post by blaneyboy on Feb 16, 2022 1:52:34 GMT -5
I was a Dante fan after the BET Championship and thought he had nowhere to go but up. How wrong I was. He is no Kevin Braswell. Rein him in. Pet peeve.
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Post by dchoya72 on Feb 17, 2022 5:17:33 GMT -5
What is your idea of the couch being held accountable? To me the couch has to be comfortable. Preferably long enough for me to put up my feet and it can't smell. That to me is an accountable couch. That's funny... I guess humor has to be injected!
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Post by dchoya72 on Feb 17, 2022 5:20:23 GMT -5
Updated. Patrick Ewing’s BE coaching record vs.:Jordan (Butler): 4-6 (home 1-4, away 3-2) Hurley (UConn): 0-3 (h 0-1, a 0-2) McDermott (Creighton): 3-8 (h 1-4, a 1-4, n 1-0) mo ok ok Leitao (DePaul): 4-3 (h 2-1, a 2-2) Stubblefield (DePaul): 0-1 (h 0-0, a 0-1) Wojciechowski (Marquette) 2-6 (h 0-4, a 1-2, n 1-0) Smart (Marquette): 0-1 (h 0-1, a 0-0) Cooley (Providence): 3-6 (h 2-3, a 1-3) Willard (Seton Hall): 4-7 (h 3-2, a 0-4, n 1-1) Mullin (SJU): 3-2 (h 1-1, a 2-0, n 0-1) Anderson (SJU): 3-4 (h 2-1, a 1-2, n 0-1) Wright (Villanova): 2-8 (h 1-4, a 0-4, n 1-0) Mack (Xavier): 0-2 (h 0-1, a 0-1) Steele (Xavier): 2-3 (h 2-1, a 0-2) Patrick Ewing’s Big East regular season record:2017-18 (5-13) = .278 2018-19 (9-9) = .500 2019-20 (5-13) = .278 2020-21 (7-9) = .438 2021-22 (0-13) = .000BET (4-3) = .571 BE regular season w/ BET: 30-60 (h 15-28, a 11-29, n 4-3) = .333BE regular season w/o BET: 26-57 (h 15-28, a 11-29) = .313Notes: Craig Esherick’s BE record (1999-2004): ---BE overall 46-59 (. 438); BE reg. sea. 41–53 (.436); BET 5-6 (.454) John Thompson III’s BE record (2005-2017): ---BE overall 146-106 (. 579); BE reg. sea. 131–94 (.580); BET 15-12 (.555) Patrick Ewing has a losing record against every current Big East coaches. Patrick Ewing is currently in a 14-game losing streak, which is the longest losing streak in Georgetown history. Must be fun to kick someone when he is down. PR your statistical analysis sucks!
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Post by dchoya72 on Feb 17, 2022 5:32:39 GMT -5
Saxa2003, I respect your opinion. But I was having family and friends discussion during the SuperBowl party and I spoke about Gtown and everyone was that’s Patrick Ewing team even the younger adults at the party. They were saying I watch their games because Patrick Ewing. And they can’t name nobody else accept AI. I was at a super bowl party where everyone agreed that Georgetown sucks at basketball now and that Patrick Ewing isn’t a good coach. I dont think that is true. He has demonstrated he can coach players. He needs a better organization and a stronger skill set from his team. He bears and does not shy away from responsibilty, but players play! In his time here he has demonstrated he can coach, but that job is a very comprehensive conundrum and he needs help across the board that he is not getting.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 17, 2022 7:20:45 GMT -5
I was at a super bowl party where everyone agreed that Georgetown sucks at basketball now and that Patrick Ewing isn’t a good coach. I dont think that is true. He has demonstrated he can coach players. He needs a better organization and a stronger skill set from his team. He bears and does not shy away from responsibilty, but players play! In his time here he has demonstrated he can coach, but that job is a very comprehensive conundrum and he needs help across the board that he is not getting. So, every losing coach can just blame the players he recruited and their lack of execution of his brilliant game plan? Everything stops with the coach, he’s the CEO.
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Post by prhoya on Feb 17, 2022 7:20:59 GMT -5
PR your statistical analysis sucks! My joke meter may be off this morning, but my post was not meant to be a statistical analysis. It’s just stats without commentary/analysis. It purposely doesn’t have analysis to not ruffle any feathers.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 17, 2022 7:23:53 GMT -5
Stats don’t lie. Commentary and analysis are subjective, hence the endless posting on this board. 🤣
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