RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on Mar 4, 2022 20:09:42 GMT -5
This weekend is going to be very 'interesting'
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 5, 2022 5:33:31 GMT -5
The orange psychopath attempted to extort Zelensky on his "perfect" phone call by withholding antitank Javelins in exchange for an investigation of Hunter Biden to help his re-election prospects leading to his first impeachment. But "Biden is no better." The United States drastically enhanced its shipments of lethal military aid and protective equipment to Ukraine as the prospect of a Russian invasion became more apparent and then a reality, according to a declassified accounting of transfers and sales reviewed by The Washington Post. The list indicates that as early as December, the Pentagon was equipping Ukrainian fighters with arms and equipment useful for fighting in urban areas, including shotguns and specialized suits to safeguard soldiers handling unexploded ordnance. Over the last week, the Biden administration has increased such shipments, sending Stinger antiaircraft missile systems for the first time and further augmenting Kyiv’s supply of antitank Javelin missiles and other ammunition. www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/03/04/us-weapons-ukraine/
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 5, 2022 5:42:47 GMT -5
On Wednesday, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said that the Russian column had “not made any appreciable progress, geographically speaking, in the last 24 to 36 hours,” and described the Russian advance as “stalled.” Experts and observers have focused on two probable reasons for the delay: logistics and a needed pause for Russian forces brought on by stiffer than expected Ukrainian resistance before they begin the next phase of their advance. “It reflects the fact that this invasion was in fact poorly planned, poorly, poorly prepared, and is being poorly conducted,” Frederick W. Kagan, director of the Critical Threats project at the American Enterprise Institute, told the New York Times on Tuesday. “That column reflects, in part, Russia scrambled to adjust to problems that they had created by the way that they prepared and conducted this attack.” taskandpurpose.com/news/russia-40-mile-convoy-sitting-duck/
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 6, 2022 6:43:18 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 6, 2022 13:12:30 GMT -5
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 6, 2022 14:59:23 GMT -5
But "Biden is no better." The former presidential adviser and Russia expert Fiona Hill made headlines last week when she stated bluntly in a Politico interview that Vladimir Putin would not hesitate to use nuclear weapons. But it was another part of that long interview that I found almost as arresting. Hill described how Putin, as he reaches for domination, relies heavily on his skills at the influence-and-information game. “What happens in a Russian ‘all-of-society’ war, you soften up the enemy,” she told her interviewer, Maura Reynolds. Hill named some names: “You get the Tucker Carlsons and Donald Trumps doing your job for you.” And now, after a few years of their apologetic rhetoric on behalf of Russia, Putin “has got swaths of the Republican Party” and “masses of the U.S. public saying ‘Good on you, Vladimir Putin,’ or blaming NATO, or blaming the U.S.” for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, she added. In addition to the many times that Trump has praised Putin as strong and admirable, while failing to criticize his human rights offenses, our previous president helped the Russian cause in more specific ways. He reportedly argued to fellow world leaders in 2018 that Crimea — the Ukrainian peninsula that Russia invaded and annexed in 2014 — was Russian because, after all, people who live there speak Russian. www.washingtonpost.com/media/2022/03/06/putin-information-war-trump/
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 6, 2022 20:25:02 GMT -5
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 6, 2022 20:58:42 GMT -5
Wish posters would stop trying to make this a political issue. I don't care what Trump and other few Republicans say, Republicans are behind the administration in its effort to oppose the Russians.
I, for one, am proud of what Biden and our NATO allies have done to aid Ukraine while, at the same time, avoiding any measures that would put us in direct combat with Russian forces, such as a no-fly zone.
Bravo to Biden.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Mar 6, 2022 21:20:15 GMT -5
Wish posters would stop trying to make this a political issue. I don't care what Trump and other few Republicans say, Republicans are behind the administration in its effort to oppose the Russians. I, for one, am proud of what Biden and our NATO allies have done to aid Ukraine while, at the same time, avoiding any measures that would put us in direct combat with Russian forces, such as a no-fly zone. Bravo to Biden. I understand what you're saying but it is, in fact, a political issue. And, the previous dumb schmuck is the leader of your "party." It doesn't much matter if you care what he says. Most of those that are in your voting group care very much what that moron says. They probably think the, "throw a Chinese flag on an F-22," is realistic, feasible and a good idea because most of his supporters are stupid. But, they're stupid people that get to vote. So, as long as Trump keeps talking and saying that this wouldn't happen under his administration, domestic politics is very much part of the issue for us at home. Thankfully, the Biden administration has done a lot of legwork in repairing all of the damage Trump did to our reputation and standing in NATO and is focusing on Ukraine as opposed to addressing the former idiot. However, his silence in that regard will be construed far differently by the "Republican" party. And, can we please stop pretending that the vast majority of "Republicans" are fully behind the administration even in this regard? That's less than truthful at best.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 6, 2022 21:47:43 GMT -5
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 6, 2022 21:59:57 GMT -5
Wish posters would stop trying to make this a political issue. I don't care what Trump and other few Republicans say, Republicans are behind the administration in its effort to oppose the Russians. I, for one, am proud of what Biden and our NATO allies have done to aid Ukraine while, at the same time, avoiding any measures that would put us in direct combat with Russian forces, such as a no-fly zone. Bravo to Biden. I understand what you're saying but it is, in fact, a political issue. And, the previous dumb schmuck is the leader of your "party." It doesn't much matter if you care what he says. Most of those that are in your voting group care very much what that moron says. They probably think the, "throw a Chinese flag on an F-22," is realistic, feasible and a good idea because most of his supporters are stupid. But, they're stupid people that get to vote. So, as long as Trump keeps talking and saying that this wouldn't happen under his administration, domestic politics is very much part of the issue for us at home. Thankfully, the Biden administration has done a lot of legwork in repairing all of the damage Trump did to our reputation and standing in NATO and is focusing on Ukraine as opposed to addressing the former idiot. However, his silence in that regard will be construed far differently by the "Republican" party. And, can we please stop pretending that the vast majority of "Republicans" are fully behind the administration even in this regard? That's less than truthful at best. You don't have a clue re Republicans supporting Biden in his support of Ukraine. And it's offensive to pontificate that Trump supporters are all stupid. You appear to be in an insulated bubble that jumps from "a Republican said" to "all Republicans say". Let's all get behind Biden as he maneuvers a very difficult situation. Why don't you just not respond with your anti-Republican rants. This is real war.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Mar 6, 2022 22:22:58 GMT -5
I understand what you're saying but it is, in fact, a political issue. And, the previous dumb schmuck is the leader of your "party." It doesn't much matter if you care what he says. Most of those that are in your voting group care very much what that moron says. They probably think the, "throw a Chinese flag on an F-22," is realistic, feasible and a good idea because most of his supporters are stupid. But, they're stupid people that get to vote. So, as long as Trump keeps talking and saying that this wouldn't happen under his administration, domestic politics is very much part of the issue for us at home. Thankfully, the Biden administration has done a lot of legwork in repairing all of the damage Trump did to our reputation and standing in NATO and is focusing on Ukraine as opposed to addressing the former idiot. However, his silence in that regard will be construed far differently by the "Republican" party. And, can we please stop pretending that the vast majority of "Republicans" are fully behind the administration even in this regard? That's less than truthful at best. You don't have a clue re Republicans supporting Biden in his support of Ukraine. And it's offensive to pontificate that Trump supporters are all stupid. You appear to be in an insulated bubble that jumps from "a Republican said" to "all Republicans say". Let's all get behind Biden as he maneuvers a very difficult situation. Why don't you just not respond with your anti-Republican rants. This is real war. Just one example. There are many: www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/politics/elise-stefanik-biden-putin-russia-ukraine-invasion/index.htmlAnd, I didn't say all Trump supporters are stupid. I said most. And, those folks keep proving that objective fact to be true. These are folks that still buy a fake "big lie." I suppose that's because they're brilliant? They also don't think that 1/6 was anything other than a peaceful protest because they don't like paying the price for their actions. These are also folks that think Trump cares about them as he continues to solicit contributions from them while not formally announcing any plans to run. Many on your side are continuing to blame Biden for Russia invading Ukraine. But, I suppose that's evidence of their intelligence? Additionally, I couldn't care less what you find offensive. The "party" you vote for tried to overturn a free and fair election and have taken steps to invalidate votes of people of color and also to invalidate elections for no reason other than the fact that they lost. If you're offended by what I wrote and not what you vote for, buy a mirror. You're supporting a "party" that is actively trying to dismantle American democracy. And, since you're offended, why don't you provide us with a quick summary of what the "Republican" party as currently constructed actually stands for that you support. You folks tend to get really quiet when asked directly. I assume the same will happen in this case.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 7, 2022 21:33:53 GMT -5
You don't have a clue re Republicans supporting Biden in his support of Ukraine. And it's offensive to pontificate that Trump supporters are all stupid. You appear to be in an insulated bubble that jumps from "a Republican said" to "all Republicans say". Let's all get behind Biden as he maneuvers a very difficult situation. Why don't you just not respond with your anti-Republican rants. This is real war. Just one example. There are many: www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/politics/elise-stefanik-biden-putin-russia-ukraine-invasion/index.htmlAnd, I didn't say all Trump supporters are stupid. I said most. And, those folks keep proving that objective fact to be true. These are folks that still buy a fake "big lie." I suppose that's because they're brilliant? They also don't think that 1/6 was anything other than a peaceful protest because they don't like paying the price for their actions. These are also folks that think Trump cares about them as he continues to solicit contributions from them while not formally announcing any plans to run. Many on your side are continuing to blame Biden for Russia invading Ukraine. But, I suppose that's evidence of their intelligence? Additionally, I couldn't care less what you find offensive. The "party" you vote for tried to overturn a free and fair election and have taken steps to invalidate votes of people of color and also to invalidate elections for no reason other than the fact that they lost. If you're offended by what I wrote and not what you vote for, buy a mirror. You're supporting a "party" that is actively trying to dismantle American democracy. And, since you're offended, why don't you provide us with a quick summary of what the "Republican" party as currently constructed actually stands for that you support. You folks tend to get really quiet when asked directly. I assume the same will happen in this case. I would just add to this that in the last two days, two people, one of whom is a physician, have told my wife that if Trump were president, Putin would not have done this. While I do believe that there is broad support among Republicans in Congress for Biden's approach, it's not at all clear to me that that is true among Trump's supporters. Because after all, it's Kamala Harris's fault that they supported Russia in the first place. So sayeth Tucker Carlson.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Mar 8, 2022 1:15:37 GMT -5
Just one example. There are many: www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/politics/elise-stefanik-biden-putin-russia-ukraine-invasion/index.htmlAnd, I didn't say all Trump supporters are stupid. I said most. And, those folks keep proving that objective fact to be true. These are folks that still buy a fake "big lie." I suppose that's because they're brilliant? They also don't think that 1/6 was anything other than a peaceful protest because they don't like paying the price for their actions. These are also folks that think Trump cares about them as he continues to solicit contributions from them while not formally announcing any plans to run. Many on your side are continuing to blame Biden for Russia invading Ukraine. But, I suppose that's evidence of their intelligence? Additionally, I couldn't care less what you find offensive. The "party" you vote for tried to overturn a free and fair election and have taken steps to invalidate votes of people of color and also to invalidate elections for no reason other than the fact that they lost. If you're offended by what I wrote and not what you vote for, buy a mirror. You're supporting a "party" that is actively trying to dismantle American democracy. And, since you're offended, why don't you provide us with a quick summary of what the "Republican" party as currently constructed actually stands for that you support. You folks tend to get really quiet when asked directly. I assume the same will happen in this case. I would just add to this that in the last two days, two people, one of whom is a physician, have told my wife that if Trump were president, Putin would not have done this. While I do believe that there is broad support among Republicans in Congress for Biden's approach, it's not at all clear to me that that is true among Trump's supporters. Because after all, it's Kamala Harris's fault that they supported Russia in the first place. So sayeth Tucker Carlson. Yours is a typical encounter. Otherwise intelligent people that didn't care much about politics prior to 2016 read snippets and summaries that support their particular bent and they run with it to the end. Prior to 2016, I considered Ed an intelligent, well-informed person that had a good handle on all of things about which he posted. With his responses to me in particular, it seems, he's taken a bit of a shortcut in terms of informing himself. If it can happen to him, it makes more sense to me now why it would happen with those far less intelligent than he. But, the fact remains that the assertion that most or all "Republicans" are behind the Biden administration with regard to Ukraine is ridiculous and patently false. Especially when it comes to their propaganda network and more than a few of their elected officials whose elections were never questioned by "Republicans" in the same election cycle where there was "widespread fraud" (nearly all by "Republicans" as it turns out). It seems to me that Ed is conflating his own beliefs and thoughts with those of the "party" for which he's voting. They're not similar in intellect or rationality. To be so disingenuous as to ignore those on the "right" that are blaming the invasion of Ukraine on Biden is baffling. Ed knows better but, seemingly, he's buying into the alternate reality of what is the current iteration of the "Republican party." When the smarter members start buying the BS, we're in serious trouble. All that said, not a single poster here has expressed any remorse about voting for Trump. I can understand parts of the arguments for having done so intellectually. I absolutely cannot understand continuing to support him or not owning up to the fact that that was a horrific mistake. Elvado and Ed seem okay with his presidency. And, I can't wrap my mind around that. Partially because they don't seem all that eager to explain. They don't like getting push-back for their choices which is understandable. But, neither of them can cogently defend them, either. Maybe the problem isn't the opposition.
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Post by happyhoya1979 on Mar 8, 2022 8:36:17 GMT -5
Putin and Xi have collaborated to create a crisis in Ukraine that is leading the US and the entire West to make a major strategic blunder. The whole purpose of the Ukraine war is to destabilize the U.S. economy by exploiting the Green lobby to whom Joe Biden is wedded and the Hawkish Republicans to cut off the American economy from Russian oil and gas. The goal has nothing to do with Ukraine other than to use it as a trojan horse to produce a massive United States recession from $6 or $7 dollar a gallon gasoline as the Democrat greens and the Hawksih Republicans congratulate themselves on their morality. In the process, a small economy, 14th in the world, now has the potential to bring down the US Economy.
Send the Ukranians Javelins and F-16s but don't destroy the US economy by cutting off America from Russian Oil, which is Putin's objective. Have the intelligence and satisfaction of saying Go to hell Putin with every $4 tank of gas (instead of $6 or $7 dollar tanks). Putin will just send the oil from an American embargo to China (and probably at a much higher price to him after the us embargo goes into effect-or giving Putin a price umbrella to send discounted oil to China). Let's be smart.
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