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Post by blueandgray on Feb 5, 2022 0:39:55 GMT -5
Has a Big East team ever been shut out for a season?
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 5, 2022 4:59:47 GMT -5
Has a Big East team ever been shut out for a season? DePaul in 2009, 0-18 (with a season ending loss to Georgetown, 48-40). Miami in 1994, 0-18.
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Post by hoyajmw on Feb 5, 2022 8:39:22 GMT -5
Has a Big East team ever been shut out for a season? DePaul in 2009, 0-18 (with a season ending loss to Georgetown, 48-40). Miami in 1994, 0-18. Depaul went on in '09 to beat Cincy in the opening round of the BET by 10 before then losing to Providence by 9, to finish 1-19 overall. Miami completed its season in '94 at 0-19 with an opening round tourney trouncing as the trouncee. And Providence actually also went 0-6 in the first season of the Big East (pre-double round robin '79-'80) before then also losing in the opening round of the tournament -- in the Providence Civic Center to add insult -- to finish 0-7 overall. Of other note that first year of '79-80 there were three of the few only five official one-loss regular season records in conference history (no one has ever gone undefeated), in which the Hoyas, Johnnies and SUcks all went 5-1 to finish as regular season tri-champions -- with the synchronicty of our beating SUcks by two at Manley (officially closing it), SUcks beating the Johnnies by one at Alumni Hall, and the Johnnies beating us by two at McDonough. Of course, we know who won the BET that year... UConn '96 and the Johnnies ('85) were the only other official one-loss regular season records (we administered the one loss each year). SUcks also had a one-loss regular season record that was vacated in th eearly 2010s due to NCAA violations (shocking, no?) Link below a fount of season by season history/records. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Men%27s_Basketball_Tournament
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 5, 2022 9:04:57 GMT -5
DePaul in 2009, 0-18 (with a season ending loss to Georgetown, 48-40). Miami in 1994, 0-18. Depaul went on in '09 to beat Cincy in the opening round of the BET by 10 before then losing to Providence by 9, to finish 1-19 overall. Miami completed its season in '94 at 0-19 with an opening round tourney trouncing as the trouncee. And Providence actually also went 0-6 in the first season of the Big East (pre-double round robin '79-'80) before then also losing in the opening round of the tournament -- in the Providence Civic Center to add insult -- to finish 0-7 overall. Of other note that first year of '79-80 there were three of the few only five official one-loss regular season records in conference history (no one has ever gone undefeated), in which the Hoyas, Johnnies and SUcks all went 5-1 to finish as regular season tri-champions -- with the synchronicty of our beating SUcks by two at Manley (officially closing it), SUcks beating the Johnnies by one at Alumni Hall, and the Johnnies beating us by two at McDonough. Of course, we know who won the BET that year... UConn '96 and the Johnnies ('85) were the only other official one-loss regular season records (we administered the one loss each year). SUcks also had a one-loss regular season record that was vacated in th eearly 2010s due to NCAA violations (shocking, no?) Link below a fount of season by season history/records. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Men%27s_Basketball_TournamentAh, I was referencing just the regular season conference record, but you're correct. And didn't remember that Provy team. Another trivia note, Leonard Hamilton coached that 1-19 Miami team. When at FSU he handed Boston College its season ending defeat resulting in BC going winless in the ACC.
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Post by Elvado on Feb 5, 2022 9:13:56 GMT -5
So this team could be legendarily bad…
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Post by hoyajmw on Feb 5, 2022 11:37:59 GMT -5
Depaul went on in '09 to beat Cincy in the opening round of the BET by 10 before then losing to Providence by 9, to finish 1-19 overall. Miami completed its season in '94 at 0-19 with an opening round tourney trouncing as the trouncee. And Providence actually also went 0-6 in the first season of the Big East (pre-double round robin '79-'80) before then also losing in the opening round of the tournament -- in the Providence Civic Center to add insult -- to finish 0-7 overall. Of other note that first year of '79-80 there were three of the few only five official one-loss regular season records in conference history (no one has ever gone undefeated), in which the Hoyas, Johnnies and SUcks all went 5-1 to finish as regular season tri-champions -- with the synchronicty of our beating SUcks by two at Manley (officially closing it), SUcks beating the Johnnies by one at Alumni Hall, and the Johnnies beating us by two at McDonough. Of course, we know who won the BET that year... UConn '96 and the Johnnies ('85) were the only other official one-loss regular season records (we administered the one loss each year). SUcks also had a one-loss regular season record that was vacated in th eearly 2010s due to NCAA violations (shocking, no?) Link below a fount of season by season history/records. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Men%27s_Basketball_TournamentAh, I was referencing just the regular season conference record, but you're correct. And didn't remember that Provy team. Another trivia note, Leonard Hamilton coached that 1-19 Miami team. When at FSU he handed Boston College its season ending defeat resulting in BC going winless in the ACC. Love the tidbit about Hamilton beating the BC team to make them winless. And to expressly connect a couple more dots (that likely only make us all feel worse): Hoyas in '80 and UConn '96 (freakin' Ray Allen and his off-balance jumper) are the ONLY two teams in BE Conference history to end conference season through tourney with only one conference loss. A win tomorrow over Providence (currently 9-1 in conference) would assure that exclusive club stays at two teams.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 5, 2022 12:04:43 GMT -5
One of these days we are bound to be hot while our opponent is cold. We keep saying this but it ain't happened yet.
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Post by hoya73 on Feb 5, 2022 13:30:10 GMT -5
Depaul went on in '09 to beat Cincy in the opening round of the BET by 10 before then losing to Providence by 9, to finish 1-19 overall. Miami completed its season in '94 at 0-19 with an opening round tourney trouncing as the trouncee. And Providence actually also went 0-6 in the first season of the Big East (pre-double round robin '79-'80) before then also losing in the opening round of the tournament -- in the Providence Civic Center to add insult -- to finish 0-7 overall. Of other note that first year of '79-80 there were three of the few only five official one-loss regular season records in conference history (no one has ever gone undefeated), in which the Hoyas, Johnnies and SUcks all went 5-1 to finish as regular season tri-champions -- with the synchronicty of our beating SUcks by two at Manley (officially closing it), SUcks beating the Johnnies by one at Alumni Hall, and the Johnnies beating us by two at McDonough. Of course, we know who won the BET that year... UConn '96 and the Johnnies ('85) were the only other official one-loss regular season records (we administered the one loss each year). SUcks also had a one-loss regular season record that was vacated in th eearly 2010s due to NCAA violations (shocking, no?) Link below a fount of season by season history/records. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Men%27s_Basketball_TournamentAh, I was referencing just the regular season conference record, but you're correct. And didn't remember that Provy team. Another trivia note, Leonard Hamilton coached that 1-19 Miami team. When at FSU he handed Boston College its season ending defeat resulting in BC going winless in the ACC. Amazing how the reputation of Hamilton, and the results of Hamilton, have gone upwards after that. You won't see that very often. I'd like to see Ewing succeed as an NBA coach, some day.
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Post by kettlehill on Feb 5, 2022 16:50:37 GMT -5
After seeing DePaul take down Xavier on the road- and outplaying them at the end- that 0-19 deal looks too close for comfort. And BTW Depaul was without Freeman-Liberty.
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Post by This Just In on Feb 5, 2022 19:42:51 GMT -5
So 0-20 Regular Season all time 1st 0-21 if you include the BET
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Post by hoyajmw on Feb 5, 2022 21:36:37 GMT -5
So 0-20 Regular Season all time 1st 0-21 if you include the BET It seems unlikley the home Covided “out” Xavier game gets played (Xavier may want to but it takes two to tango/agree and who among us thinks we’ll want to? Especially since the alternative is resting/gameplanning for DePaul at home on Feb 24 — a few days after what seems to be the only possible make up date of Feb 21. So knock a game off your “all times(s)” but otherwise that indeed is the abyss we are staring into…
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 6, 2022 15:16:40 GMT -5
And the beat rolls on..... 0-10.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 6, 2022 15:26:01 GMT -5
Projections now show a 17% chance of going winless now. Only 2 games remaining where we have more than a 20% chance to win. That the road Depaul game coming up on Wednesday is not one of them should tell you something.
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Post by Elvado on Feb 6, 2022 15:53:46 GMT -5
I am beginning to believe that a winless BE season is not only likely, but necessary.
Like the plane over the Meadowlands in 1979, a monstrous wake up call is needed on the Hilltop.
When fans being angry, then disappointed morphs into utter apathy, you are lost.
We need an explosion of sorts and an 0-for just MIGHT do it.
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Post by drquigley on Feb 6, 2022 16:03:24 GMT -5
Okay, so we have played 10 BE games so far. That's 400 minutes of BE basketball. Can any of you out there who have less of a life than I do check our game videos and tell me how many of those minutes were played with us leading? If you have the time and really want to make us feel bad how many minutes of these 10 games have we lead in the second half? I'm guessing less than 40 for an entire games and less than 10 in the second half.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2022 16:14:48 GMT -5
Okay, so we have played 10 BE games so far. That's 400 minutes of BE basketball. Can any of you out there who have less of a life than I do check our game videos and tell me how many of those minutes were played with us leading? If you have the time and really want to make us feel bad how many minutes of these 10 games have we lead in the second half? I'm guessing less than 40 for an entire games and less than 10 in the second half. Today we had the lead for 14:05 overall & 2:39 in the 2nd half.
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Post by daveg023 on Feb 6, 2022 16:55:15 GMT -5
Okay, so we have played 10 BE games so far. That's 400 minutes of BE basketball. Can any of you out there who have less of a life than I do check our game videos and tell me how many of those minutes were played with us leading? If you have the time and really want to make us feel bad how many minutes of these 10 games have we lead in the second half? I'm guessing less than 40 for an entire games and less than 10 in the second half. Today we had the lead for 14:05 overall & 2:39 in the 2nd half. Only other game I think we’ve had a lead for any material amount of time was the Nova game. Still lost by 11 though.
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Post by drquigley on Feb 6, 2022 17:35:39 GMT -5
Today we had the lead for 14:05 overall & 2:39 in the 2nd half. Only other game I think we’ve had a lead for any material amount of time was the Nova game. Still lost by 11 though. I've probably underestimated the time but still it seems to be only a matter of minutes once we take a lead that we give it back.
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 6, 2022 17:44:12 GMT -5
We’ve played 20 halves of basketball. How many halves have we won? my guess is that we are 3-17.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 6, 2022 23:41:53 GMT -5
Okay, so we have played 10 BE games so far. That's 400 minutes of BE basketball. Can any of you out there who have less of a life than I do check our game videos and tell me how many of those minutes were played with us leading? If you have the time and really want to make us feel bad how many minutes of these 10 games have we lead in the second half? I'm guessing less than 40 for an entire games and less than 10 in the second half. Marquette: 3:48 (all 1H) Butler: 9:21 (all 1H) at SJU: never led at Prov: never led Nova: 12:46, 8:40 in 2H at UConn: never led at Butler: 6:35, 0:19 in 2H SHU: 9:15, 4:05 in 2H SJU: never led Prov: 14:05, 2:39 in 2H In 10 games: Total time leading: 55:50 Total time leading in 2H: 15:43 Games never held the lead: 4 (SJU went wire to wire on us twice) Largest lead: 7 (against Nova, 2nd half)
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