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Post by Highsmith on Feb 26, 2022 15:46:20 GMT -5
If Ewing comes back, I’ll never support anything he does in anything ever again. See and that is where I just can't agree. I think we see eye to eye on Ewing. I want him out as badly as the next guy. This is coming from someone who applauded the hire and actually continue to defend him after the BET title but it's now abundantly clear he is simply not a good coach. All that being said there will never be a day, date, game, time, etc that I will not root for the Hoyas. I will root for them even if Ewing is the coach. I will root for the players on the roster. I will root for the community, fan base, university as a whole no matter what. Even w/Ewing at the helm. Even if I feel ultimately Ewing can not and will not be successful at Gtown...I will root for him and this team always... That may seem foolish from your perspective, I totally get it but Hoya basketball from a sporting perspective is by far my passion and that comes from a guy from Boston that worships Brady, Bird, Pedro, Bourque (I am too young for Orr)...but nothing would mean more to me (in sports) than Gtown winning it all with or without Ewing. Totally agree. I've been with this team for the vast majority of my life. Not going to stop now. Ewing needs to be done for sure. Ronnie Thompson needs to be shown the door for sure. We need to move into the 21st century with a young, hungry coach who can get us past this dark period. But if none of those things happen, I'll still be watching every game and rooting for them. I'll be doing a lot of complaining along the way, but I'll keep rooting for them!
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Post by bamahoya11 on Feb 26, 2022 15:50:38 GMT -5
If Ewing comes back, I’ll never support anything he does in anything ever again. See and that is where I just can't agree. I think we see eye to eye on Ewing. I want him out as badly as the next guy. This is coming from someone who applauded the hire and actually continue to defend him after the BET title but it's now abundantly clear he is simply not a good coach. All that being said there will never be a day, date, game, time, etc that I will not root for the Hoyas. I will root for them even if Ewing is the coach. I will root for the players on the roster. I will root for the community, fan base, university as a whole no matter what. Even w/Ewing at the helm. Even if I feel ultimately Ewing can not and will not be successful at Gtown...I will root for him and this team always... That may seem foolish from your perspective, I totally get it but Hoya basketball from a sporting perspective is by far my passion and that comes from a guy from Boston that worships Brady, Bird, Pedro, Bourque (I am too young for Orr)...but nothing would mean more to me (in sports) than Gtown winning it all with or without Ewing. I admire the commitment, and I hope that’s what I’ll do if we are back here next year doing the same things. I love Georgetown, and it’s hard for me to imagine just giving up. It’s probably not possible. Even as I’ve tried to watch Alabama basketball more closely, it’s never the same feeling. Still, I’m just so, so frustrated with these results. I never thought we could be this bad, and yet here we are. If we stay the course, I just don’t see that as a commitment to winning. I want to see us have a path forward to being a top-tier Big East team again. I still believe it’s possible. I don’t see any more how that happens with Ewing at the helm. Not after this year, and not with the type of rebuild we have in front of us.
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Post by cas92 on Feb 26, 2022 15:58:03 GMT -5
A new coach is not going to go with an 0-16 roster. There will be an overhaul. Imagine this team without Carey. Yeah but there should be growth between the freshman and sophomore year. I'm sure if we could go back there is no way we thought the '13 would be better without Big Hank. I'm actually looking forward to a team led by Jordan, Wayne, JBills and Ryan. I think we will surprise a few. W/ a coaching staff that's indisputably demonstrated the ability to develop players, this confidence ought to be well founded. This one? Not so much. For instance, if your best (game management) PG upon reflection was Terrell Allen (who came as a finished article as a grad transfer from USF), it doesn't lend much confidence that any rising sophomores who actually elect to remain (over/under 2) will reflect any marked improvement.
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Post by hoyainla on Feb 26, 2022 18:11:05 GMT -5
Oregon State is one of the worst major conference teams ever and they managed to win a conference game. It’s really hard to not win a conference game. The talent gap is not that great. It’s pretty shocking.
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Post by hoyazeke on Feb 26, 2022 18:24:03 GMT -5
Oregon State is one of the worst major conference teams ever and they managed to win a conference game. It’s really hard to not win a conference game. The talent gap is not that great. It’s pretty shocking. LA I'll prephis with, I don't know anything about Oregon St. But I looked at their roster and saw mostly seniors and juniors. Some of those kids had to play on their tourney team from last year. We have DC, Dante, Tim and Malcolm. I get your point but that team is at least experienced.
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Post by hoyainla on Feb 26, 2022 23:43:04 GMT -5
Oregon State is one of the worst major conference teams ever and they managed to win a conference game. It’s really hard to not win a conference game. The talent gap is not that great. It’s pretty shocking. LA I'll prephis with, I don't know anything about Oregon St. But I looked at their roster and saw mostly seniors and juniors. Some of those kids had to play on their tourney team from last year. We have DC, Dante, Tim and Malcolm. I get your point but that team is at least experienced. For a good part of the year we started 2 grad seniors, a junior, a sophomore and a 5 star freshman. They are starting 1 good player but nowhere near as good as DC, a guy that could barely get in for Marquette last year, a guy that was JUCO last year, a Nichols State transfer and a big stiff. They have nobody on the roster that was higher than a 3 star. They are one of the worst shooting and rebounding teams in the country. They are saving us from the embarrassment of being the worst KenPom major conference team and by over 50 spots. Even with all that they pulled out a double digit conference win over a Utah team that beat them by 25 in the rematch. The talent deficit is not as large as people are making it out to be, especially not the bottom Big East teams and certainly not when we play shorthanded Depaul missing their best player or 2nd best player. I was very low on this teams hopes for this year, mainly because of Dante and the lack of a 4, but even after seeing a few Big East games I thought we would win about 3 conference games. Even bad teams win a couple. We are historically bad and it's inexcusable.
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bamahoya11
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Post by bamahoya11 on Feb 27, 2022 9:14:13 GMT -5
As I looked at our schedule this morning, it really sank in just how badly we have done. Barring an upset in Big East play or in the tournament, we will finish this year with exactly one win over a power 5 team from any league — Syracuse. We have failed to be competitive in most of our other games against teams even from other major conferences. Indeed, we struggled to stay on the floor with teams from decent mid-major conferences. We lost badly to a decent Mountain West team (SDSU) and lost to a terrible A-10 team (St. Joseph’s). We lost by double-digits to a mediocre SEC team (South Carolina) and by single digits to a mediocre Big 12 team (TCU). Then, we have been swept in Big East play, including sweeps by DePaul and Butler, teams that will not sniff the postseason. Two of those four games against the bottom of the league were blowouts. I raise this because I had forgotten how bad our non-conference season actually was. Despite this, we were still playing better at the beginning of the season than we are at the end of the season.
All of this shows that we aren’t a couple transfers away from a top 25 team. It’ll take a comprehensive rethink of the entire program to get out of this. The coaching today isn’t working. Some of our players are improving over the season, yet the team play is stagnant at best and arguably worse.
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 27, 2022 9:30:54 GMT -5
As I looked at our schedule this morning, it really sank in just how badly we have done. Barring an upset in Big East play or in the tournament, we will finish this year with exactly one win over a power 5 team from any league — Syracuse. We have failed to be competitive in most of our other games against teams even from other major conferences. Indeed, we struggled to stay on the floor with teams from decent mid-major conferences. We lost badly to a decent Mountain West team (SDSU) and lost to a terrible A-10 team (St. Joseph’s). We lost by double-digits to a mediocre SEC team (South Carolina) and by single digits to a mediocre Big 12 team (TCU). Then, we have been swept in Big East play, including sweeps by DePaul and Butler, teams that will not sniff the postseason. Two of those four games against the bottom of the league were blowouts. I raise this because I had forgotten how bad our non-conference season actually was. Despite this, we were still playing better at the beginning of the season than we are at the end of the season. All of this shows that we aren’t a couple transfers away from a top 25 team. It’ll take a comprehensive rethink of the entire program to get out of this. The coaching today isn’t working. Some of our players are improving over the season, yet the team play is stagnant at best and arguably worse. And you must have erased the Dartmouth loss from memory. That's an all-time low light in my book.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Feb 27, 2022 12:59:24 GMT -5
As I looked at our schedule this morning, it really sank in just how badly we have done. Barring an upset in Big East play or in the tournament, we will finish this year with exactly one win over a power 5 team from any league — Syracuse. We have failed to be competitive in most of our other games against teams even from other major conferences. Indeed, we struggled to stay on the floor with teams from decent mid-major conferences. We lost badly to a decent Mountain West team (SDSU) and lost to a terrible A-10 team (St. Joseph’s). We lost by double-digits to a mediocre SEC team (South Carolina) and by single digits to a mediocre Big 12 team (TCU). Then, we have been swept in Big East play, including sweeps by DePaul and Butler, teams that will not sniff the postseason. Two of those four games against the bottom of the league were blowouts. I raise this because I had forgotten how bad our non-conference season actually was. Despite this, we were still playing better at the beginning of the season than we are at the end of the season. All of this shows that we aren’t a couple transfers away from a top 25 team. It’ll take a comprehensive rethink of the entire program to get out of this. The coaching today isn’t working. Some of our players are improving over the season, yet the team play is stagnant at best and arguably worse. And you must have erased the Dartmouth loss from memory. That's an all-time low light in my book. Oh, I remember, but I’m trying to forget. I left Dartmouth off the list because I’m trying to eliminate it from my mind. All of it just shows how far from competitive we are unfortunately.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Feb 27, 2022 17:35:48 GMT -5
We head into the final week of the regular season winless. This thread has gone on too long without a win. As we enter the final week, I think our best chance at a victory may come against Xavier. They aren’t playing well and have their own dissatisfaction with their coach. They still have some chance at the postseason, but I could see us giving them a game.
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 27, 2022 21:53:35 GMT -5
If Ewing comes back, I’ll never support anything he does in anything ever again. See and that is where I just can't agree. I think we see eye to eye on Ewing. I want him out as badly as the next guy. This is coming from someone who applauded the hire and actually continue to defend him after the BET title but it's now abundantly clear he is simply not a good coach. All that being said there will never be a day, date, game, time, etc that I will not root for the Hoyas. I will root for them even if Ewing is the coach. I will root for the players on the roster. I will root for the community, fan base, university as a whole no matter what. Even w/Ewing at the helm. Even if I feel ultimately Ewing can not and will not be successful at Gtown...I will root for him and this team always... That may seem foolish from your perspective, I totally get it but Hoya basketball from a sporting perspective is by far my passion and that comes from a guy from Boston that worships Brady, Bird, Pedro, Bourque (I am too young for Orr)...but nothing would mean more to me (in sports) than Gtown winning it all with or without Ewing. Well said, Beantown, but I would just add that I will also be pulling hard for Ewing in his future endeavors, whether they be at GU or otherwise. He's still the greatest player in the history of the program.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Mar 2, 2022 21:06:43 GMT -5
The Hoyas lose, and the administration places a vote of confidence in a sinking ship. Not a great day.
It all comes down to Xavier to avoid a winless league season. Guess it won’t be 0-20, but it feels as bad. Xavier is playing really poorly right now though, and we are playing pretty well. I hope we can win it and finally put this winless thread to rest. For now, though, the winless streak continues.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Mar 2, 2022 21:10:45 GMT -5
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The administration thinks this is acceptable
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 2, 2022 21:13:08 GMT -5
Don’t forget to cancel Fubo TV again.
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Mar 2, 2022 21:13:46 GMT -5
Maybe we’ll pull a reverse ‘07 Pats and win our last game to avoid 0-19
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Post by bamahoya11 on Mar 2, 2022 21:15:15 GMT -5
0-18 The administration thinks this is acceptable It’s disheartening. Winning the Big East Tournament last year was fun, but it’s no substitute for sustained success. We were 7-9 in league play last year and 0-18 this year. The program is a wreck. We need a change so badly.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 2, 2022 21:28:36 GMT -5
As pointed out on the front page, our last two coaches received votes of confidence and each was fired within three weeks thereafter. Never say never.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Mar 2, 2022 21:31:29 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Mar 2, 2022 21:42:30 GMT -5
As pointed out on the front page, our last two coaches received votes of confidence and each was fired within three weeks thereafter. Never say never. Both times the students demonstrated on campus.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Mar 2, 2022 22:00:21 GMT -5
As pointed out on the front page, our last two coaches received votes of confidence and each was fired within three weeks thereafter. Never say never. Both times the students demonstrated on campus. That’s the issue. No one really cares. None of the students today even really know what it’s like to have a good basketball team. I wish they would express their objections to the decision, but I don’t think it’s likely. Instead, our AD has been tasked to work with Ewing to come up with a plan to fix the team.
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