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Post by dchoya72 on Jan 5, 2022 11:48:59 GMT -5
Overall, I like the pickup for next year and agree with those that say anything that we get this season is gravy. Mo, Carey and Rice will all be gone next year, so adding a second sniper to Anglin is a wise move. I also like getting incoming transfers in the current college hoops landscape, as they're forced to have loyalty to the program - it becomes very difficult and debilitating to one's career to transfer a second time. That said, I really hope this addition isn't implying that there could be long-term issues with Jordan Riley, either due to injury or otherwise. Bristol obviously plays the same position as Riley with Beard/Harris/Anglin also in the backcourt mix - that's 5 guys 6'4" and under for 2 or 3 positions on the court. The other concern is it's another pickup from a low major school. In the last couple years, we've brought in Carey from Siena, Bile from Northwestern State, Rice from the Citadel and now Bristol from Howard. Meanwhile we've lost Akinjo to Arizona (and now #1 Baylor), McClung to Texas Tech, Wahab to Maryland and LeBlanc to LSU. That is not a good trend. We're bringing in worse talent from the transfer portal than we're losing to it. I don't see how that bodes well for top 25 level success. To me, it's another example of how low the bar has fallen for the program. People are cheering Ewing for bringing in a transfer from Howard. In the 80s we brought in top level recruits like Patrick Ewing, Reggie Willliams, Alonzo Mourning. In the 90s, we brought in top level recruits like Othella Harrington, Allen Iverson, and Jahidi White. In the 2000s, we brought in top level recruits like Greg Monroe, Austin Freeman, Chris Wright. Today, we're supposed to get excited about transfers from Northwestern State and Howard. It's really an indictment on how far the program has fallen on Ewing's watch. Hoyaboya, Your analysis is sad! The rankings are subjective. Sometimes they're right, other times they don't correctly assess or project correctly the talent level of recruits or prospects. The program in my opinion suffered before Ewing got here to coach. We are on the rise not the downfall. Obtaining a talent that attended Howard University is not a fallen position, ask UCONN. Sometimes you have good information, and sometimes you just miss the boat completely, like something fell and hit you on the head!
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 5, 2022 11:51:09 GMT -5
Is your last comment trying to stir the pot that the die is cast for Ewing to be back next year? Regardless if he is or not, I’d expect any coach to be saying things like that anyway. Not at all, but it speaks to instability. Georgetown brings in a recruit and then says they don't know if he can play. If you're eligible, play. If you're not, apply to transfer in when you are. And if it's an injury and not eligibility, say so.
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Post by daveg023 on Jan 5, 2022 11:55:05 GMT -5
Is your last comment trying to stir the pot that the die is cast for Ewing to be back next year? Regardless if he is or not, I’d expect any coach to be saying things like that anyway. Not at all, but it speaks to instability. Georgetown brings in a recruit and then says they don't know if he can play. If you're eligible, play. If you're not, apply to transfer in when you are. And if it's an injury and not eligibility, say so. Gotcha. This situation has been odd. I don’t get why Bristol waited until October to put his name in and it seems like he wasn’t enrolled at all at Howard for the Fall? I know nothing about the details here, but it does seem like after the Sodom, King, and 2019 exodus, we’d be really careful about eligibility and understanding university practices at this point.
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Post by conshyhoya on Jan 5, 2022 11:58:50 GMT -5
I don't see him as a replacement for Riley but as some have said he is more of a Carey replacement. Riley for what it is worth has been posting Georgetown related items since his surgery so there is no indication of anything more than Ewing adding a deep threat which Riley isn't at this point after we lose are current threats. I like the pickup.
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Post by hoyainla on Jan 5, 2022 12:02:40 GMT -5
Good pickup for a couple of reasons. It’s always better to get multi year transfers than single year. He will get a chance to integrate with the team and be ahead of schedule next year. I see no reason to play him this year though I’m not sure it’s even an option. This year is done. Save the full year of eligibility. Lastly he can shoot.
This helps raise the floor of next years team but not sure it raises the potential ceiling to higher than this years team for what is currently expected to be on the roster next year. Next years team has the same holes this years does and assuming Aminu leaves there is nobody close to filling what he brings.. Bristol can fill in nicely for what we lose in Carey and Rice. I would venture to say he’s the starting 3 next year. That doesn’t really fix our biggest problems. This signing will likely lead to a transfer or two as some guys just got another road block to playing time. We will need the scholarship anyways to bring in a transfer or two at the positions of need.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 5, 2022 12:07:01 GMT -5
Not at all, but it speaks to instability. Georgetown brings in a recruit and then says they don't know if he can play. If you're eligible, play. If you're not, apply to transfer in when you are. And if it's an injury and not eligibility, say so. Gotcha. This situation has been odd. I don’t get why Bristol waited until October to put his name in and it seems like he wasn’t enrolled at all at Howard for the Fall? I know nothing about the details here, but it does seem like after the Sodom, King, and 2019 exodus, we’d be really careful about eligibility and understanding university practices at this point. Yeah, it is definitely a weird situation. Given that transfers are now allowed to play without sitting, I don't see why he would have to sit, unless it is because he already enrolled at Howard for fall 2021, and the no-sit rule doesn't apply to in-season transfers? Otherwise, I don't see the difference between this transfer and any other. Really, the only benefit of having him not play this season is that he retains a year of eligibility, but because of the COVID exemption for last year, he might not even really need that unless he wants to play 5 full seasons over 6 years.
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Post by conshyhoya on Jan 5, 2022 12:12:09 GMT -5
Gotcha. This situation has been odd. I don’t get why Bristol waited until October to put his name in and it seems like he wasn’t enrolled at all at Howard for the Fall? I know nothing about the details here, but it does seem like after the Sodom, King, and 2019 exodus, we’d be really careful about eligibility and understanding university practices at this point. Yeah, it is definitely a weird situation. Given that transfers are now allowed to play without sitting, I don't see why he would have to sit, unless it is because he already enrolled at Howard for fall 2021, and the no-sit rule doesn't apply to in-season transfers? Otherwise, I don't see the difference between this transfer and any other. Really, the only benefit of having him not play this season is that he retains a year of eligibility, but because of the COVID exemption for last year, he might not even really need that unless he wants to play 5 full seasons over 6 years. I would guess it is similar to the two guys from DePaul that had to wait to be cleared to play by the NCAA. Although they both played some games last year for their former teams unlike Wayne who sat out.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 5, 2022 12:14:44 GMT -5
Is your last comment trying to stir the pot that the die is cast for Ewing to be back next year? Regardless if he is or not, I’d expect any coach to be saying things like that anyway. Not at all, but it speaks to instability. Georgetown brings in a recruit and then says they don't know if he can play. If you're eligible, play. If you're not, apply to transfer in when you are. And if it's an injury and not eligibility, say so. I take the quote on his ability to play this season from Ewing to mean Bristol needs to get acclimated or comfortable @ Gtown before he will play him. Seems very reasonable to me...
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 5, 2022 12:53:47 GMT -5
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jan 5, 2022 13:05:34 GMT -5
I don't want to argue with our Golden Goose's "mentor" but if there was 6'9"- 6'10" rebounding machines that are becoming eligible for the 2nd semester growing on trees somewhere I am sure we would be looking at them... I am not even saying he's right or wrong but that doesn't help welcome in Bristol, could be interpreted as a shot at Wilson, Mutumbo, Billingsley and Rice...and last time I looked we are 16th in the country in rebounding...I could point at plenty of other concerns at this time ...
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 5, 2022 13:27:26 GMT -5
Overall, I like the pickup for next year and agree with those that say anything that we get this season is gravy. Mo, Carey and Rice will all be gone next year, so adding a second sniper to Anglin is a wise move. I also like getting incoming transfers in the current college hoops landscape, as they're forced to have loyalty to the program - it becomes very difficult and debilitating to one's career to transfer a second time. That said, I really hope this addition isn't implying that there could be long-term issues with Jordan Riley, either due to injury or otherwise. Bristol obviously plays the same position as Riley with Beard/Harris/Anglin also in the backcourt mix - that's 5 guys 6'4" and under for 2 or 3 positions on the court. The other concern is it's another pickup from a low major school. In the last couple years, we've brought in Carey from Siena, Bile from Northwestern State, Rice from the Citadel and now Bristol from Howard. Meanwhile we've lost Akinjo to Arizona (and now #1 Baylor), McClung to Texas Tech, Wahab to Maryland and LeBlanc to LSU. That is not a good trend. We're bringing in worse talent from the transfer portal than we're losing to it. I don't see how that bodes well for top 25 level success. To me, it's another example of how low the bar has fallen for the program. People are cheering Ewing for bringing in a transfer from Howard. In the 80s we brought in top level recruits like Patrick Ewing, Reggie Willliams, Alonzo Mourning. In the 90s, we brought in top level recruits like Othella Harrington, Allen Iverson, and Jahidi White. In the 2000s, we brought in top level recruits like Greg Monroe, Austin Freeman, Chris Wright. Today, we're supposed to get excited about transfers from Northwestern State and Howard. It's really an indictment on how far the program has fallen on Ewing's watch. Hoyaboya, Your analysis is sad! The rankings are subjective. Sometimes they're right, other times they don't correctly assess or project correctly the talent level of recruits or prospects. The program in my opinion suffered before Ewing got here to coach. We are on the rise not the downfall. Obtaining a talent that attended Howard University is not a fallen position, ask UCONN. Sometimes you have good information, and sometimes you just miss the boat completely, like something fell and hit you on the head! "We are on the rise not the downfall." What evidence do you have to support this claim? We were predicted in the preseason by fellow conference coaches to finish 10th in the Big East. Going into conference season, we have the following rankings: KenPom 118 RPI 232 Bart Torvik 152 kenpom.comrealtimerpi.com/rpi_156_Men.html barttorvik.com/team.php?team=GeorgetownWe're about to lose our 3 best players to the NBA Draft and graduation (Mo, Carey, Rice). How is this considered a team on the upswing?
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Post by calhoya on Jan 5, 2022 13:28:06 GMT -5
Agree completely that interior play is the biggest need right now, but as noted above, the options for making a change in the middle of the year are limited. Perhaps this means more small ball play, and perhaps it means that Ewing was truly focused on next year. However, while there may be a lot of guards right now, there does not appear to be an overabundance of perimeter shooting. While Aminu is a tireless machine on both ends of the court, I think that is more the exception. In my fading memory of the earlier games this year, I often felt that we needed to give our guards more rest during the game, as several times the team seemed to run out of gas in the second half.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 5, 2022 13:38:52 GMT -5
It is kind of a bad look for our best player's guardian to be criticizing our coach's decisions publicly. As you all know, I have my quibbles with Ewing, but I don't think somebody like Harmon should be airing his laundry publicly.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 5, 2022 13:53:47 GMT -5
It is kind of a bad look for our best player's guardian to be criticizing our coach's decisions publicly. As you all know, I have my quibbles with Ewing, but I don't think somebody like Harmon should be airing his laundry publicly. It's a bad look for you to say it's a bad look or insinuate there is laundry.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 5, 2022 14:12:27 GMT -5
It is kind of a bad look for our best player's guardian to be criticizing our coach's decisions publicly. As you all know, I have my quibbles with Ewing, but I don't think somebody like Harmon should be airing his laundry publicly. It's a bad look for you to say it's a bad look or insinuate there is laundry. I am defending Ewing and the program, but I think you are so tied up in being contrary that you don't see it. All I mean is that Harmon would be better off keeping such comments to himself. I don't see why that's controversial. If this was Akinjo's uncle, everyone would be combusting. Put differently, what good comes out of Harmon's comment?
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Post by prhoya on Jan 5, 2022 14:14:04 GMT -5
We agree, Coach Harmon, but was one available (other than King) for a mid-year transfer?
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Post by prhoya on Jan 5, 2022 14:18:47 GMT -5
It's a bad look for you to say it's a bad look or insinuate there is laundry. I am defending Ewing and the program, but I think you are so tied up in being contrary that you don't see it. All I mean is that Harmon would be better off keeping such comments to himself. I don't see why that's controversial. If this was Akinjo's uncle, everyone would be combusting. Put differently, what good comes out of Harmon's comment? I like that we get a look at what someone close to the program is thinking, even though he’s expressing a frustration that cannot be solved until the off-season. Where did he think we were going to find that 4/5? If he knew of one (other than King), then he should have told the staff (no idea if this happened). IIRC, what he wanted was for Pat to re-recruit King, but that ship had sailed.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jan 5, 2022 14:21:31 GMT -5
It is kind of a bad look for our best player's guardian to be criticizing our coach's decisions publicly. As you all know, I have my quibbles with Ewing, but I don't think somebody like Harmon should be airing his laundry publicly. It's a bad look for you to say it's a bad look or insinuate there is laundry. What good does Harmon's comments provide in response to an addition of a "kid" to our roster? None if you ask me... If he wants to air this concern in general, I guess so be it... If you don't read this as I would have added a different player if I was Ewing and the kids that are playing the 4-5 (aminu's teammates) aren't getting it done...then I don't know how else you read it. If that's his intent it's a bad look
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Post by jwp91 on Jan 5, 2022 15:30:21 GMT -5
Adding Bristol fits with strategy to get old and stay old.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 5, 2022 16:51:51 GMT -5
Adding Bristol fits with strategy to get old and stay old. How does adding 5 freshman (Mohammed, Beard, Billingsley, Mutombo and Riley) in this year's class fit with that strategy? Ewing just makes it up as he goes along, no rhyme or reason. 5 years into his coaching career and now we're supposed to believe he has a "get old and stay old" strategy?
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