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Post by prhoya on Jan 28, 2022 9:42:08 GMT -5
The Bristol move could probably have Rice come off the bench now. He'll probably thrive from that aspect. We've used Holloway as a center by necessity and when going to small-ball. If Wayne is as good as 40% from 3, it would be very interesting to see a line-up of Holloway at C, with shooters Carey, Aminu, Wayne and Rice. Someone brings the ball up, start moving and pass. Now if the defense picks up...
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 28, 2022 9:52:14 GMT -5
We don't need to be playing no small ball. This is the reason why we are losing now, can't you people see that? I don't know what is you all's fantasy about this small ball crap y'all keep harping on. We get creamed on the boards and y'all still talking about small ball.
I hope Coach considers playing different combinations. I want to see big boy ball (go inside to Big Tim), twin towers (Big Tim and Mutombo, Big Tim and Malcolm, Malcom and Mutombo on the floor at the same time) When we play twin towers, we have to play zone on defense. When playing twin tower ball, on offense, I would like to see Mutombo 12 to 15 away from the basket knocking down the midrange. I would like to see him posting up and crashing the board.
With the twin towers, on defense, I would like to see Malcolm blocking the shots and both fellas battling inside for the rebounds especially defensive rebounds.
I would like to see Rice, Wayne, Carey all on the floor at the same time in spurts with Carey playing the point or even playing the shooting guard. Imagine seeing Wayne, Carey, Rice, Dante and Big Tim on the floor for some spurts. That would give us plenty of fire power and a little rebounding with Big Tim.
I would like to see Carey, Aminu, Wayne and Rice on the floor at the same time joined by a Big Tim or Mutombo for some spurts with Carey running the point. I mean we can have all kinds of combinations that we could run.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 28, 2022 9:53:05 GMT -5
Our coach can confuse an issue like no one else WTF???
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 28, 2022 9:54:29 GMT -5
Our coach can confuse an issue like no one else Oh nooooo! I guess my little fantasy with Wayne playing a significant role in helping the team this year is out the window so Admin can I have my post back with my different combinations of players that I posted a few post back in this thread. I need that. What do I have to do? Do I just need to delete it?
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Post by tafkashfsee on Jan 28, 2022 9:55:30 GMT -5
Does this mean that Wayne is not ready?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2022 9:59:40 GMT -5
The Bristol move could probably have Rice come off the bench now. He'll probably thrive from that aspect. We've used Holloway as a center by necessity and when going to small-ball. If Wayne is as good as 40% from 3, it would be very interesting to see a line-up of Holloway at C, with shooters Carey, Aminu, Wayne and Rice. Someone brings the ball up, start moving and pass. Now if the defense picks up...
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Post by prhoya on Jan 28, 2022 10:05:27 GMT -5
We've used Holloway as a center by necessity and when going to small-ball. If Wayne is as good as 40% from 3, it would be very interesting to see a line-up of Holloway at C, with shooters Carey, Aminu, Wayne and Rice. Someone brings the ball up, start moving and pass. Now if the defense picks up... Why? Necessity is the mother of that line-up.
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Post by bostonfan on Jan 28, 2022 10:24:55 GMT -5
The Bristol move could probably have Rice come off the bench now. He'll probably thrive from that aspect. We've used Holloway as a center by necessity and when going to small-ball. If Wayne is as good as 40% from 3, it would be very interesting to see a line-up of Holloway at C, with shooters Carey, Aminu, Wayne and Rice. Someone brings the ball up, start moving and pass. Now if the defense picks up... I like Holloway and the way he has improved this year, but he is really an undersized 4. He is just not tall enough, not long enough and not athletic enough to play the 5 effectively even in a small ball lineup. JBill has the length and I was hopeful he could fill that small ball center role but this recent injury does not bode well for that.
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Post by trillesthoya on Jan 28, 2022 10:26:07 GMT -5
We've used Holloway as a center by necessity and when going to small-ball. If Wayne is as good as 40% from 3, it would be very interesting to see a line-up of Holloway at C, with shooters Carey, Aminu, Wayne and Rice. Someone brings the ball up, start moving and pass. Now if the defense picks up... I like Holloway and the way he has improved this year, but he is really an undersized 4. He is just not tall enough, not long enough and not athletic enough to play the 5 effectively even in a small ball lineup. JBill has the length and I was hopeful he could fill that small ball center role but this recent injury does not bode well for that. Pat said today he was practicing yesterday and seems fine
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Jan 28, 2022 10:27:48 GMT -5
Can he defend? Can he rebound? Can he block shots?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2022 10:43:32 GMT -5
Holloway at center & defenses picking up are at serious odds. Maybe you could use that lineup for a single offensive possession, end of half/game -- but that's about it. CH's a small 4 -- putting him at 5 (nominally) basically just abandons the spot. As for Bristol: I'm hopeful he can be a Gerald Riley type guy for us in the next couple of years. (He's a little more slight than GR) Scorer first. 3pt threat (at least volume-wise). Competent enough with the ball to help in the backcourt, but enough size to guard bigger wings.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Jan 28, 2022 10:50:12 GMT -5
I would take another Gerald Riley in a heartbeat.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 28, 2022 11:03:34 GMT -5
Team needs any shot in the arm it can get at this point. Biggest thing to me is if Bristol can offer anything on the defensive end, there are minutes to be had. No point in saving him for next season if we continue down this road for the next 6 weeks.
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Post by rhw485 on Jan 28, 2022 11:08:05 GMT -5
Sometimes I think a desire for "small ball" gets taken out of context a bit....this seems like a bridge too far. We ended up with a similar lineup against Longwood and it was a layup line. UConn grabbed more offensive rebounds than we grabbed defensive rebounds, and that was with a center on the floor. I think that lineup would break the record for most points allowed in a big east game. The argument for spacing is contingent on being able to credibly get a stop. On some level, what the heck, the current lineups haven't worked, but I cant even say with a straight face this one would have a chance.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 28, 2022 11:21:28 GMT -5
We ran small against Villanova to a degree of success but I agree that Colin is not a small ball 5...hopefully JBill is ok.
As far as Wayne goes, I don't think him playing this year moves the needle one way or another. Obviously I want to see what we got in him but I'm not going to irrationally get hopes up.
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Post by hoya73 on Jan 28, 2022 11:22:37 GMT -5
I would take another Gerald Riley in a heartbeat. Ditto, and Riley was an underrated defender. A lot of his game, defensively, was denying the ball ever getting to the man he was guarding. Defense by positioning is something easy to miss, especially if watching a game on tv and not in person. If a guy who usually hoists 15-20 shots only puts up 10, because your positioning has limited his touches, half the battle is already won.
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Post by iowa80 on Jan 28, 2022 11:49:02 GMT -5
Can he defend? Can he rebound? Can he block shots? What is a “work in progress”? If it means he needs continued practice with the team, at some point we need to decide. If he’s a player, might as well let him play while he can help us win a few games. One of them is tomorrow.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 28, 2022 11:56:05 GMT -5
What is a “work in progress”? If it means he needs continued practice with the team, at some point we need to decide. If he’s a player, might as well let him play while he can help us wowing a few games. One of them is tomorrow. 100%. For a team that has shown plenty of evidence that their press is the best (only good?) thing they do on defense, holding him back and then crying about not having enough bodies to press consistently and avoid getting tired seems pretty silly at this point. No one is asking/expecting him to slot immediately into a 30mpg role, but if he can give 10-12 mpg, he needs to. This team needs him to.
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Post by iowa80 on Jan 28, 2022 12:02:03 GMT -5
I do not want to go 0 for the Big East. I would trade a semester of eligibility to avoid that, assuming Wayne can play from here on out.
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Post by tgo on Jan 28, 2022 12:27:55 GMT -5
The press has been excellent, in such depressing contrast to the rest of the defense. The only acceptable reason that we don't use it more, is that we already run out of gas at the end of games and using it more would make that happen earlier. If Bristol getting 15 minutes allows us to run the press for an extra 5 minutes a game, then that is a net positive even if he is invisible on the other end of the floor.
Coach, put him in the game and do it early. While you are at it, give Ryan a lot more minutes. Please!
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