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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 8, 2023 13:45:58 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 14, 2023 8:58:31 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 2, 2023 19:57:51 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 17, 2023 12:50:07 GMT -5
Full propagandist, indeed.
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 17, 2023 13:55:08 GMT -5
Because of the protections offered by the First Amendment, there’s a high bar for suing a media organization for defamation. Established in the Supreme Court case New York Times v. Sullivan, the complainant must prove that the media organization was reckless in spreading false information. In a blockbuster legal filing made public on Thursday, lawyers for Dominion present wide-ranging evidence that Fox executives and on-air personalities should have known or, at times, explicitly knew that claims being made about the voting-machine company were false — but pressed forward in making them anyway. If Dominion’s suit is successful (certainly not a given), it could severely damage Fox. And if that happens, the culpability for that damage rests solely with the network and its employees. But this wasn’t simply a one-off error by Fox. Instead, it was the result of a cascade of bad decisions and willful choices often centered not on presenting accurate information to its audience but, instead, on ensuring its audience stuck around. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/17/fox-dominion-mistake/ |
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Post by hoyajinx on Feb 17, 2023 14:03:32 GMT -5
Good thing for Fox that its viewers are impervious to things like truth and reason, otherwise the network would be exposed as the absolute fraud it is. It’s amazing that a network that has such disdain for its viewers’ intelligence (and let’s be honest, rightfully so) can have such a high ratings share. Republicans are absolutely hopeless.
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 17, 2023 16:29:09 GMT -5
Guess what "news" network is not covering Dominion's lawsuit?
If I'm wrong will one of our stalwart HoyaTalk "Republicans" please provide a link, please?
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 17, 2023 19:44:31 GMT -5
Because of the protections offered by the First Amendment, there’s a high bar for suing a media organization for defamation. Established in the Supreme Court case New York Times v. Sullivan, the complainant must prove that the media organization was reckless in spreading false information. In a blockbuster legal filing made public on Thursday, lawyers for Dominion present wide-ranging evidence that Fox executives and on-air personalities should have known or, at times, explicitly knew that claims being made about the voting-machine company were false — but pressed forward in making them anyway. If Dominion’s suit is successful (certainly not a given), it could severely damage Fox. And if that happens, the culpability for that damage rests solely with the network and its employees. But this wasn’t simply a one-off error by Fox. Instead, it was the result of a cascade of bad decisions and willful choices often centered not on presenting accurate information to its audience but, instead, on ensuring its audience stuck around. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/17/fox-dominion-mistake/I've been telling people that Dominion had a heavy burden to overcome in dealing with the Fake News Network's likely First Amendment defense, but wow, they certainly seem to have a chance based on these revelations. When I saw an article about this this morning, I emailed it to some of my friends and told them this article gave me the best laugh I had in a long time, and I expected it to not be surpassed for a while. And then this afternoon I heard that the Proud Boys are planning to subpoena Trump to testify. Poor Trump, embattled from all sides. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 22, 2023 9:13:45 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Feb 23, 2023 10:20:56 GMT -5
Go Dominion! The disclosure of emails and texts in which Fox News executives and personalities disparaged the same election conspiracies being floated on their shows has greatly increased the chances that a defamation case against the network will succeed, legal experts say. Dominion Voting Systems included dozens of messages sent internally by Fox co-founder Rupert Murdoch and on-air stars such as Tucker Carlson in a brief made public last week in support of the voting technology company’s $1.6 billion lawsuit against the network. Dominion claims it was damaged in the months after the 2020 election after Fox repeatedly aired false statements that it was part of a conspiracy to fraudulently elect Joe Biden. Dominion said the emails and texts show that Fox’s hosts and executives knew the claims being peddled by then-president Donald Trump’s lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Sydney Powell weren’t true — some employees privately described them as “ludicrous” and “mind blowingly nuts”— but Fox kept airing them to keep its audience from changing channels. www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/02/23/fox-news-dominion-lawsuit-legal-analysis/ |
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 26, 2023 18:37:11 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 4, 2023 10:47:26 GMT -5
… chickens coming home to roost perhaps?
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 4, 2023 11:12:27 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 5, 2023 14:47:50 GMT -5
Guess what "news" network is not covering Dominion's lawsuit? If I'm wrong will one of our stalwart HoyaTalk "Republicans" please provide a link, please? I posted this observation way before Howard Kurtz said publicly that Fox Prop ordered him and others not to cover the story. I do miss our HoyaTalk "Republicans" who use to parrot their Fox Prop talking points here. What a shame. I guess they continue to watch Fox Prop. Fox News host Howard Kurtz, who anchors a weekly show on the media industry, said he has been told not to cover the $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit filed against Fox by Dominion Voting Systems. Kurtz revealed the prohibition during Sunday’s episode of “MediaBuzz” after he received criticism for not covering revelations about the network that came out of a recent filing by Dominion. www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/02/27/fox-news-lawsuit-howard-kurtz/ |
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 6, 2023 8:13:45 GMT -5
What are you afraid of, Fox Propaganda? Consumers of Fox Prop are as stupid as they seem. Yet the filing is filled with frustrating dead ends, the result of the network’s aggressive effort to prevent disclosure of many of the internal communications that came out of discovery in the case, Dominion Voting Systems v. Fox News. The black passages in the document raise the questions: What is Fox News hiding? And will those passages ever be unredacted? www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/03/06/fox-news-redactions-dominion/ |
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 6, 2023 20:08:37 GMT -5
I'm a little confused here. Now I have not one iota of love for Fake News Network, but isn't the first rule of any litigation to inform the litigants to not discuss the matter in public? What exactly is Fake News Network supposed to do here? It seems to me that instructing their staff to keep quiet is the best of a bunch of poor options available to them. I'm happy to be dissuaded from this position.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 6, 2023 20:47:51 GMT -5
I'm a little confused here. Now I have not one iota of love for Fake News Network, but isn't the first rule of any litigation to inform the litigants to not discuss the matter in public? What exactly is Fake News Network supposed to do here? It seems to me that instructing their staff to keep quiet is the best of a bunch of poor options available to them. I'm happy to be dissuaded from this position. Howard Kurtz as far I know is not a fact witness to any of the derelictions of Fox Prop. He would be expressing only his opinions regarding the facts as he understands them based upon the public record. To the extent he sought to do any independent reporting by talking to Murdock, Hannity, Carlson and the cabal of liars, they are the ones who should have been advised to remain silent. Kurtz would not be a percipient fact witness to any relevant facts and as far as I can tell and his opinion would have no evidentiary value. If he did render an opinion about the lawsuit, he would certainly open himself up to a deposition but it seems likely that he lacks any relevant factual evidence to offer. Moreover, setting aside the fact that he likely lacks any factual knowledge and would only be rendering opinion on reported facts, I don't believe that he would be an authorized representative to make any corporate admissions relating to this lawsuit. IOW, it's likely he'd just be like any other pundit talking about the going ons at Fox, no different than any other media commentators who don't do any independent reporting. I guess Kurtz needs the money. He should have quit. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 7, 2023 16:24:28 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 7, 2023 16:28:22 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 7, 2023 18:34:50 GMT -5
The hits just keep on coming for Fox Prop. Why won't it settle?? Curious. A large cache of new documents was released Tuesday as part of the $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit filed against Fox News by Dominion Voting System. The material includes a large selection of exhibits mentioned in past legal motions that have generated headlines and controversy for the network. Among the documents released Tuesday was an email from Fox Corp. chairman Rupert Murdoch to Fox News CEO Suzanne Scott that the organization was “Still getting mud thrown at us! … Maybe Sean and Laura went too far. All very well for Sean to tell you he was in despair about Trump but what did he tell his viewers?” www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/03/07/fox-news-lawsuit/ |
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