Rowan Brumbaugh ‘22 Decommit NW, to Texas

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We are waiting on Livingston a 5 star guard, bigger, faster, stronger and more skilled.

[s4hoyas]

In regard to Brumbaugh, we are not "waiting on Livingston," who btw is not a guard...the two are entirely different players, and it would be fantastic if we could land both...

[thedragon]

Welp...I guess Anglin popped first and that ended the Rowan dream.

[hoyaguy]

Aug 11, 2021 19:05:35 GMT -5 thedragon said:

Welp...I guess Anglin popped first and that ended the Rowan dream.

The fact that Anglin said that the staff wants him to play pg and the likelihood that Beard, Dante and Denver are 4 year players just makes it seem like there’s no room

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Good, I'm glad he's gone. I rather have Livingston. Bigger, faster, longer, stronger and more skilled. Perhaps staff told him your services are no longer needed there kid. Beat it!

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Aug 11, 2021 18:50:13 GMT -5 s4hoyas said:

In regard to Brumbaugh, we are not "waiting on Livingston," who btw is not a guard...the two are entirely different players, and it would be fantastic if we could land both...

Livingston is a shooting guard/small forward. Rowan is a point guard who we don't need. We already have two pure point guards and two scoring point guard on the roster already. We don't need another point guard. We are waiting on Livingston and Watson.

[BeantownHoya]

Aug 11, 2021 20:17:06 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

Aug 11, 2021 18:50:13 GMT -5 s4hoyas said:

In regard to Brumbaugh, we are not "waiting on Livingston," who btw is not a guard...the two are entirely different players, and it would be fantastic if we could land both...

Livingston is a shooting guard/small forward. Rowan is a point guard who we don't need. We already have two pure point guards and two scoring point guard on the roster already. We don't need another point guard. We are waiting on Livingston and Watson.

Who are the 2 "pure" point guards on this roster?

[hoyas212]

Aug 11, 2021 20:56:35 GMT -5 BeantownHoya said:

Aug 11, 2021 20:17:06 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

Livingston is a shooting guard/small forward. Rowan is a point guard who we don't need. We already have two pure point guards and two scoring point guard on the roster already. We don't need another point guard. We are waiting on Livingston and Watson.

Who are the 2 "pure" point guards on this roster?

Dante Harris is the only pure pg on the roster and he had to play far too many minutes last season out of necessity. Hopefully Beard can help alleviate some of that burden this season, and Anglin the following season. As Georgetown fans know more than most, projecting future rosters is a fool’s errand and you can’t have too many ball handlers. With Anglin in the same class, Brumbaugh likely would’ve been more of a luxury than a necessity, but it still stings a bit to miss out on him. Though as numerous coaches anonymously tell the media, recruiting is also about building relationships to potentially get the player down the road given the prevalence of transfers.

GU didn’t miss on Brumbaugh because they’re waiting on 2 small forwards. There will likely be room for at least 3 more players in this class.

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Aug 11, 2021 21:54:56 GMT -5 hoyas212 said:

Aug 11, 2021 20:56:35 GMT -5 BeantownHoya said:

Who are the 2 "pure" point guards on this roster?

Dante Harris is the only pure pg on the roster and he had to play far too many minutes last season out of necessity. Hopefully Beard can help alleviate some of that burden this season, and Anglin the following season. As Georgetown fans know more than most, projecting future rosters is a fool’s errand and you can’t have too many ball handlers. With Anglin in the same class, Brumbaugh likely would’ve been more of a luxury than a necessity, but it still stings a bit to miss out on him. Though as numerous coaches anonymously tell the media, recruiting is also about building relationships to potentially get the player down the road given the prevalence of transfers.

GU didn’t miss on Brumbaugh because they’re waiting on 2 small forwards. There will likely be room for at least 3 more players in this class.

We only have two scholarships left according to the scholarship count so how do you figure three more players?  Also, you have Riley who fancies himself a point guard as well. 

If we need a point guard, we can go Dante then Beard then Anglin (who also can come in and play shooting guard) and then if we get desperate we have Riley.  We don't need Brumbaugh.  We have too many guys that can do what he does and these guys are going to be around for a while. 

We need guys who can score in bunches, play multiple positions and defend like Livingston and we need Watson who is a local product that, with his recruitment, can open up the local pipeline and who is a pretty decent fella himself. 

The relationship we need to be building at this point is the relationship with local high school basketball scene.  We need to get our pipeline going with the different high school leagues in DC/MD & VA and hopefully we can being if and when we get Watson.

Perhaps staff told Brumbaugh don't list us in your final because we have moved on to bigger and better.

[SaxaCD]

or perhaps he just wanted to go away for school. Lots of kids do.

[hoyas212]

Aug 11, 2021 22:10:10 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

Aug 11, 2021 21:54:56 GMT -5 hoyas212 said:

Dante Harris is the only pure pg on the roster and he had to play far too many minutes last season out of necessity. Hopefully Beard can help alleviate some of that burden this season, and Anglin the following season. As Georgetown fans know more than most, projecting future rosters is a fool’s errand and you can’t have too many ball handlers. With Anglin in the same class, Brumbaugh likely would’ve been more of a luxury than a necessity, but it still stings a bit to miss out on him. Though as numerous coaches anonymously tell the media, recruiting is also about building relationships to potentially get the player down the road given the prevalence of transfers.

GU didn’t miss on Brumbaugh because they’re waiting on 2 small forwards. There will likely be room for at least 3 more players in this class.

We only have two scholarships left according to the scholarship count so how do you figure three more players? 

When in the Ewing era has the team retained everyone with eligibility? The odds are overwhelmingly in favor of at least 1 player leaving before exhausting their eligibility at GU. They aren’t telling kids who live a stones throw from the school, who they’ve had for an official visit, and are being recruited by Kansas and Texas, that they aren’t interested anymore. It’s not the end of the world, but Brumbaugh would’ve been a nice addition.

[boxout05]

Aug 11, 2021 22:23:17 GMT -5 SaxaCD said:

or perhaps he just wanted to go away for school. Lots of kids do.

Going to College Park would technically count as 'going away for school' if he lives in Gtown...

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Aug 11, 2021 22:43:20 GMT -5 hoyas212 said:

Aug 11, 2021 22:10:10 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

We only have two scholarships left according to the scholarship count so how do you figure three more players? 

When in the Ewing era has the team retained everyone with eligibility? The odds are overwhelmingly in favor of at least 1 player leaving before exhausting their eligibility at GU. They aren’t telling kids who live a stones throw from the school, who they’ve had for an official visit, and are being recruited by Kansas and Texas, that they aren’t interested anymore. It’s not the end of the world, but Brumbaugh would’ve been a nice addition.

Well there is also the transfer market which is a better stop gap than to stock up on high school players in "anticipation" that you're going to lose players.

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Aug 11, 2021 22:43:20 GMT -5 hoyas212 said:

Aug 11, 2021 22:10:10 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

We only have two scholarships left according to the scholarship count so how do you figure three more players? 

When in the Ewing era has the team retained everyone with eligibility? The odds are overwhelmingly in favor of at least 1 player leaving before exhausting their eligibility at GU. They aren’t telling kids who live a stones throw from the school, who they’ve had for an official visit, and are being recruited by Kansas and Texas, that they aren’t interested anymore. It’s not the end of the world, but Brumbaugh would’ve been a nice addition.

Also, in the Ewing era, he has had some unusual transfers.  I don't expect half the team to leave the program in one year unless the same set of unusual circumstances happen again.  I expect these kids to be with the program for a while.  I can see Mohammed and Riley leaving early, if they are ready for the pros.  Otherwise, I don't think we need Rowan.  Also, with Muhammad and Riley I expect for them to be here for at least two years and it could be for all four years.

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Aug 11, 2021 20:56:35 GMT -5 BeantownHoya said:

Aug 11, 2021 20:17:06 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

Livingston is a shooting guard/small forward. Rowan is a point guard who we don't need. We already have two pure point guards and two scoring point guard on the roster already. We don't need another point guard. We are waiting on Livingston and Watson.

Who are the 2 "pure" point guards on this roster?

Harris and Beard are the two pure point guards though they both can light it up.  I don't expect coach to ask them to be a scoring point guard like he would Anglin or Riley.

[s4hoyas]

Tyler is not a pure pg...he's a combo who may give you some time at pg or who may develop into more of a pure pg over time...same is true of Denver...right now his biggest strength is as an off the ball knock down shooter...Brumbaugh would have been the best pure pg/lead guard on the team because of his size and fully developed skill set enabling him to make everybody around him better with his passing/setup ability...he's a unique player in that sense in what he brings to the table...To me, its a very disappointing loss especially given his and his family's perceived interest...I understand the backcourt may be somewhat crowded, but that's what competition is for...I think we'll take two more in this class...I had just hoped that he would be one and the best possible SF the other...we shall see...

[hoyazeke]

Aug 11, 2021 23:35:56 GMT -5 s4hoyas said:

Tyler is not a pure pg...he's a combo who may give you some time at pg or who may develop into more of a pure pg over time...same is true of Denver...right now his biggest strength is as an off the ball knock down shooter...Brumbaugh would have been the best pure pg/lead guard on the team because of his size and fully developed skill set enabling him to make everybody around him better with his passing/setup ability...he's a unique player in that sense in what he brings to the table...To me, its a very disappointing loss especially given his and his family's perceived interest...I understand the backcourt may be somewhat crowded, but that's what competition is for...I think we'll take two more in this class...I had just hoped that he would be one and the best possible SF the other...we shall see...

But very few thought Dante was a pure PG going into last season. The same comment that you wrote about Tyler is what most were saying about Dante. Flash forward and most would rank Dante 2nd best PG in the BE behind Posh.

[rockhoya]

Aug 11, 2021 22:43:20 GMT -5 hoyas212 said:

Aug 11, 2021 22:10:10 GMT -5 hoyafansinceewingera said:

We only have two scholarships left according to the scholarship count so how do you figure three more players? 

When in the Ewing era has the team retained everyone with eligibility? The odds are overwhelmingly in favor of at least 1 player leaving before exhausting their eligibility at GU. They aren’t telling kids who live a stones throw from the school, who they’ve had for an official visit, and are being recruited by Kansas and Texas, that they aren’t interested anymore. It’s not the end of the world, but Brumbaugh would’ve been a nice addition.

Or they just as easily could’ve. We are not privy to their (full, evolving) recruiting strategy, at least I’m not.

[rockhoya]

Aug 11, 2021 23:35:56 GMT -5 s4hoyas said:

Tyler is not a pure pg...he's a combo who may give you some time at pg or who may develop into more of a pure pg over time...same is true of Denver...right now his biggest strength is as an off the ball knock down shooter...Brumbaugh would have been the best pure pg/lead guard on the team because of his size and fully developed skill set enabling him to make everybody around him better with his passing/setup ability...he's a unique player in that sense in what he brings to the table...To me, its a very disappointing loss especially given his and his family's perceived interest...I understand the backcourt may be somewhat crowded, but that's what competition is for...I think we'll take two more in this class...I had just hoped that he would be one and the best possible SF the other...we shall see...

You have it backwards, Tyler is a pure point that developed into a combo over the years.

But I agree, Brumbaugh is a pure point of the past, in his own tier. I know many will think this is a lazy comparison but there is so much Gillispie in his game. But he’s bigger, more athletic, and a better shooter at that stage.

[hoyas212]

Aug 12, 2021 6:34:35 GMT -5 rockhoya said:

Aug 11, 2021 22:43:20 GMT -5 hoyas212 said:

When in the Ewing era has the team retained everyone with eligibility? The odds are overwhelmingly in favor of at least 1 player leaving before exhausting their eligibility at GU. They aren’t telling kids who live a stones throw from the school, who they’ve had for an official visit, and are being recruited by Kansas and Texas, that they aren’t interested anymore. It’s not the end of the world, but Brumbaugh would’ve been a nice addition.

Or they just as easily could’ve. We are not privy to their (full, evolving) recruiting strategy, at least I’m not.

This is true that the recruiting strategy could be evolving, it's certainly possible the philosophy has evolved after the classes of multiple players at the same/similar positions, Akinjo/McClung and Wahab/Ighoefe/Wilson, probably didn't pan out as hoped.  Just don't think that is the case with Rowan given he was joining the team for runs as recently as 3 weeks ago and was getting praise on social media from Mutombo for how he was playing.  Would've loved to have had him but can't blame the staff or Rowan for it not happening at this juncture.