LCPolo18
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Post by LCPolo18 on Nov 30, 2020 11:29:34 GMT -5
Where is the Men’s Basketball team practicing this year? This is the first time since 1981 (?) that our team could have all of its practices where it plays its games. I believe they are practicing primarily in the Thompson Athletic Center, not McDonough.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 30, 2020 11:39:33 GMT -5
Last year early pre-conference I felt like we dominated boards. That was mainly because we had such a size advantage vs. good rebounding. That seemed to be the case against UMBC and my guess is that will hold true against the other smaller opponents. That also didn't set us up well for more physical teams. I'll be interested to see if the same holds true this year. Our efficiency out of Blair & Pickett was horrible against UMBC. That is going to have to improve. Blair took a number of 25+ footers and that isn't going to win us a lot of games. Pickett's efficiency was actually terrible. Here are the O ratings for the game: Carey: 108 Blair: 104 Dante Harris: 100 Wahab: 99 Kobe Clark: 91 Pickett: 58 Ighoefe: 54 Jalen Harris: 46 I actually was a bit surprised that Carey did not get more love in the game thread. Perhaps it's because his scoring was more first-half based, but he had a decent outing. But, basically, there is a ton of room for improvement overall. Pickett took way too many shots (he used 24% of our possession and shot 3-15) for his skill level, and turned it over 5 times. Pickett's major offensive value is really more as a shooter. He has never excelled at driving or taking twos. If his usage is as high as it was last game, that is not good for the future unless he shows massive improvement. Our offense scored 0.88 points per possession against UMBC. That is really, really bad. If we do not improve on that, it is going to be a very long season.
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Post by DudeSlade on Nov 30, 2020 12:08:58 GMT -5
Last year early pre-conference I felt like we dominated boards. That was mainly because we had such a size advantage vs. good rebounding. That seemed to be the case against UMBC and my guess is that will hold true against the other smaller opponents. That also didn't set us up well for more physical teams. I'll be interested to see if the same holds true this year. Our efficiency out of Blair & Pickett was horrible against UMBC. That is going to have to improve. Blair took a number of 25+ footers and that isn't going to win us a lot of games. Pickett's efficiency was actually terrible. Here are the O ratings for the game: Carey: 108 Blair: 104 Dante Harris: 100 Wahab: 99 Kobe Clark: 91 Pickett: 58 Ighoefe: 54 Jalen Harris: 46 I actually was a bit surprised that Carey did not get more love in the game thread. Perhaps it's because his scoring was more first-half based, but he had a decent outing. But, basically, there is a ton of room for improvement overall. Pickett took way too many shots (he used 24% of our possession and shot 3-15) for his skill level, and turned it over 5 times. Pickett's major offensive value is really more as a shooter. He has never excelled at driving or taking twos. If his usage is as high as it was last game, that is not good for the future unless he shows massive improvement. Our offense scored 0.88 points per possession against UMBC. That is really, really bad. If we do not improve on that, it is going to be a very long season. I felt like there were 3 games in one against UMBC: The first 10 minutes where both teams seemingly just tried to figure out what their teammates looked like without masks on. The last 9 minutes of the 1st half and the first 9 minutes of the 2nd half -- we went from up 2 to up by 18 in that stretch. The last 11 minutes of the game where we seemed to already think the game was over. In that middle 18 minutes, we looked actually pretty good. You could see the team that Ewing wants to become -- strong defense & rebounding, fast-paced & breaks, and good ball movement to good shots with lots of followups on the offensive glass. To your point, Carey was the one that seemed to get us on track in the last 9 minutes of the first half. He was able to take & hit some open shots and showed a sense of urgency that the rest of the players picked up on. Then our big guys started getting going. Blair & Wahab started the 2nd half out well and we got out in transition and moved the ball very well in that timeframe. A lot of Pickett's shots that I can recall occurred outside the flow of the offense and in the first 11 and last 11 minutes of the game when the whole team looked poor. I don't recall many good shots he took that he just missed. The part I can't figure out is if Pickett took those shots and tried to make something happen because the rest of the team couldn't get into an offensive flow or if the offensive flow was poor because Pickett was taking poor shots. I do remember Blair trying to bail the team out a few times when the offense failed or else his shooting numbers would have been better. Does anyone else recall? If it's the offense bogging down, then I'd like to see the responsibility fall more on Carey and Blair to try to create something than Pickett, unless we are just gonna throw it in the post.
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Post by prhoya on Nov 30, 2020 12:10:56 GMT -5
Where is the Men’s Basketball team practicing this year? This is the first time since 1981 (?) that our team could have all of its practices where it plays its games. I believe they are practicing primarily in the Thompson Athletic Center, not McDonough. Any perimeter and ft shooting practice should be done at McD. Why not take advantage of the situation?
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Post by daveg023 on Nov 30, 2020 12:31:47 GMT -5
Last year early pre-conference I felt like we dominated boards. That was mainly because we had such a size advantage vs. good rebounding. That seemed to be the case against UMBC and my guess is that will hold true against the other smaller opponents. That also didn't set us up well for more physical teams. I'll be interested to see if the same holds true this year. Our efficiency out of Blair & Pickett was horrible against UMBC. That is going to have to improve. Blair took a number of 25+ footers and that isn't going to win us a lot of games. Pickett's efficiency was actually terrible. Here are the O ratings for the game: Carey: 108 Blair: 104 Dante Harris: 100 Wahab: 99 Kobe Clark: 91 Pickett: 58 Ighoefe: 54 Jalen Harris: 46 I actually was a bit surprised that Carey did not get more love in the game thread. Perhaps it's because his scoring was more first-half based, but he had a decent outing. But, basically, there is a ton of room for improvement overall. Pickett took way too many shots (he used 24% of our possession and shot 3-15) for his skill level, and turned it over 5 times. Pickett's major offensive value is really more as a shooter. He has never excelled at driving or taking twos. If his usage is as high as it was last game, that is not good for the future unless he shows massive improvement. Our offense scored 0.88 points per possession against UMBC. That is really, really bad. If we do not improve on that, it is going to be a very long season. barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Georgetown&year=2021Good news: this game was better efficiency wise than any game from last year on defense. Bad news: this game was worse efficiency wise than any game from last year on offense. I have to think the turnovers and FT shooting play into that, but I guess I’d rather us be a good defensive team and bad offensive team than the inverse. You can be more consistent with that dynamic as opposed to the opposite, and may luck into a few more wins. As I heard recently, “defense wins games, while offense says by how much.”
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Nov 30, 2020 15:01:34 GMT -5
barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Georgetown&year=2021Good news: this game was better efficiency wise than any game from last year on defense. Bad news: this game was worse efficiency wise than any game from last year on offense. I have to think the turnovers and FT shooting play into that, but I guess I’d rather us be a good defensive team and bad offensive team than the inverse. You can be more consistent with that dynamic as opposed to the opposite, and may luck into a few more wins. As I heard recently, “defense wins games, while offense says by how much.” According to KenPom, our game against UMBC last season was actually better, with 0.76 PPP allowed versus 0.78 PPP allowed last game. Barttorvik.com's numbers are slightly different, and do show that last game was slightly better than last years. I cannot figure out why they are different (and don't have the time to focus on it much), but in any case, it really doesn't matter, as regardless of what site you use, it basically shows that against UMBC we had basically the same defensive performance year-to-year. So, it's not an indication of our defense being better. Similarly, in our worst game last year, we scored 0.84 PPP against Xavier, and against UMBC we scored 0.88 PPP, at least according to KenPom. Granted, scoring that few points against UMBC's defense is worse than 0.84 against Xavier, since Xavier is much better overall. It is too early to put much stock in any stats from last game, but I think we are going to struggle on both ends this year.
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Post by HometownHoya on Nov 30, 2020 18:39:18 GMT -5
Play hard, own the boards, and hustle. The scoring will come as the team gels and when Pickett has his high confidence games. In the meantime, players need to be giving it their all 100% of the time because this team will not win against BE competition with less.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2020 20:34:17 GMT -5
We won't struggle if we play good perimeter defense and we dump the ball inside to Wahab early and often. And also, this is a game where my guy can get his finger roll on.
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Post by mdtd on Nov 30, 2020 21:52:06 GMT -5
We should beat these guys badly. They are small and UMD beat them by 30 a couple of days ago. They've played a ton of games in this time, so fatigue could be a factor if we run them too. They have good guards, but their leading rounder is averaging 4 boards a game. Their big men are 6'7" and 6'6" so we should absolutely dominate them inside. Finish strong and good results will come. I think UMBC is a better team than Navy and I think the Hoyas matchup much better here. Jamorko and Wahab are taller than all their starters. Finish string inside and they won't be able to stop you. We should dominate these guys inside.
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Post by capcenterhoya on Dec 1, 2020 8:23:43 GMT -5
The one adjustment Pat eventually has to make this year is slow down the pace. This team simply does not have the ball handling or offensive talent to keep up in the Big East. Our wins will come by grinding out games with size, defense, and rebounding. I know Pat likes a certain brand of basketball, but the team he has constructed this year cannot succeed playing that way. It's an uphill climb regardless, but if we finish in the top half of the league in pace, we will finish last in the standings.
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Post by hoyainla on Dec 1, 2020 9:34:43 GMT -5
I don’t care what the wins don’t matter this year crowd says, this is one of the few games this year we can’t afford to lose. We have a decent recruiting class coming in and more importantly the big prize is still out there and deciding soon. One of our biggest competitors in that race steamrolled another BE team yesterday. It becomes very easy to recruit against us if we lose this one.
We should be able to beat them like we beat all the scrubs we play, pound the ball inside and take advantage of our massive size advantage. I’m also expecting Jamorko to bounce back and Jalen Harris to actually make a shot.
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Post by hoyainla on Dec 1, 2020 9:36:31 GMT -5
The one adjustment Pat eventually has to make this year is slow down the pace. This team simply does not have the ball handling or offensive talent to keep up in the Big East. Our wins will come by grinding out games with size, defense, and rebounding. I know Pat likes a certain brand of basketball, but the team he has constructed this year cannot succeed playing that way. It's an uphill climb regardless, but if we finish in the top half of the league in pace, we will finish last in the standings. I hope you don’t have any influence on the staff’s decisions.
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Post by calhoya on Dec 1, 2020 9:48:33 GMT -5
I don’t care what the wins don’t matter this year crowd says, this is one of the few games this year we can’t afford to lose. We have a decent recruiting class coming in and more importantly the big prize is still out there and deciding soon. One of our biggest competitors in that race steamrolled another BE team yesterday. It becomes very easy to recruit against us if we lose this one. We should be able to beat them like we beat all the scrubs we play, pound the ball inside and take advantage of our massive size advantage. I’m also expecting Jamorko to bounce back and Jalen Harris to actually make a shot. Agree, with the addition that some of us are very much in the wins do matter this year camp. Players do not come to losing programs. Georgetown needs to show definite signs of improvement under this coaching staff and winning games, particularly those you should win, is an important step.
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Post by kbones17 on Dec 1, 2020 12:46:14 GMT -5
The one adjustment Pat eventually has to make this year is slow down the pace. This team simply does not have the ball handling or offensive talent to keep up in the Big East. Our wins will come by grinding out games with size, defense, and rebounding. I know Pat likes a certain brand of basketball, but the team he has constructed this year cannot succeed playing that way. It's an uphill climb regardless, but if we finish in the top half of the league in pace, we will finish last in the standings. Interesting take. It seems to me this team is his best equipped to play up tempo... I think it’s a little bit of both. I get what he’s saying in that guys like Blair, Pickett, Carey, etc aren’t athletic freaks that will excel in a constant track meet. But, as a team, we also don’t have guys that can consistently create their own shots in the half court. I think we can run effectively against lesser competition but once we get to the BE we’re going to need to grind out more wins than sprint to victory. Depends on matchups of course, but I think the biggest “plus” we’ll have is rebounding and Q.
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 1, 2020 13:19:12 GMT -5
Interesting take. It seems to me this team is his best equipped to play up tempo... I think it’s a little bit of both. I get what he’s saying in that guys like Blair, Pickett, Carey, etc aren’t athletic freaks that will excel in a constant track meet. But, as a team, we also don’t have guys that can consistently create their own shots in the half court. I think we can run effectively against lesser competition but once we get to the BE we’re going to need to grind out more wins than sprint to victory. Depends on matchups of course, but I think the biggest “plus” we’ll have is rebounding and Q. Half court it's really just Q. I think Blair is better in transition and when things breakdown then in the halfcourt. He is a better defender and longer than Akinjo or Mac, so defensively there is an upgrade. One advantage we do have is we are all in phenomenal condition. So by running we can tire teams out. UMBC had 4 guys who cramped up and another who twisted his ankle trying to keep up with our pace, while none of our guys cramped up. Don't sell us short on that.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 1, 2020 13:43:59 GMT -5
I think it’s a little bit of both. I get what he’s saying in that guys like Blair, Pickett, Carey, etc aren’t athletic freaks that will excel in a constant track meet. But, as a team, we also don’t have guys that can consistently create their own shots in the half court. I think we can run effectively against lesser competition but once we get to the BE we’re going to need to grind out more wins than sprint to victory. Depends on matchups of course, but I think the biggest “plus” we’ll have is rebounding and Q. Half court it's really just Q. I think Blair is better in transition and when things breakdown then in the halfcourt. He is a better defender and longer than Akinjo or Mac, so defensively there is an upgrade. One advantage we do have is we are all in phenomenal condition. So by running we can tire teams out. UMBC had 4 guys who cramped up and another who twisted his ankle trying to keep up with our pace, while none of our guys cramped up. Don't sell us short on that. Maybe the SJU games will be a track meet. Navy should be in great conditioning shape but that's not their game.
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Post by tgo on Dec 1, 2020 14:22:21 GMT -5
I don't get CBS Sports Network at home, anyone have a link to where I can watch it online?
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Post by sweetness on Dec 1, 2020 16:19:52 GMT -5
You can sign up for a free trial of fuboTv - CBS Sports network is included.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 1, 2020 16:38:42 GMT -5
For entertainment purposes only: Georgetown -10.
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Post by hoyas315 on Dec 1, 2020 17:33:38 GMT -5
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