SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 27, 2020 9:59:52 GMT -5
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Post by njhoya78 on Jul 27, 2020 10:23:12 GMT -5
This has led to the postponement, as well, of the Phillies/Yankees game in Philadelphia today. Reports indicate that the Marlins may have been exposed to COVID-19 during their "summer camp" exhibition games against the Atlanta Braves, who then traveled to New York to play a three-game series with the Mets. Not looking to be alarmist, but one can see how this can spiral out of control very quickly.
I'm not a betting man, but the odds on finishing the baseball season right now look like a sucker bet.
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Post by Elvado on Jul 27, 2020 10:29:35 GMT -5
Agreed.
Given the “restructured” (read maximum post season revenue from Fox) nature of this 60 game joke of a season, it is time to pull the plug.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 27, 2020 10:34:13 GMT -5
I think the players who opted out had the right idea.
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Post by prhoya on Jul 27, 2020 10:39:55 GMT -5
I think the players who opted out had the right idea. I haven’t followed MLB’s decision to play in a pandemic, but what was MLB’s position on wearing masks. Did the players’ union oppose it? Baseball players don’t have to run like in other sports, so why not order it, protect the players and protect the season?
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 27, 2020 10:54:55 GMT -5
I think the players who opted out had the right idea. I haven’t followed MLB’s decision to play in a pandemic, but what was MLB’s position on wearing masks. Did the players’ union oppose it? Baseball players don’t have to run like in other sports, so why not order it, protect the players and protect the season? My understanding is that masks are mandatory for all non-players (mgrs, coaches, trainers, umps, grounds crew, etc) and recommended but not required for players. Not sure what position the union had but I'm guessing the "recommended but not required" as adopted.
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Post by 3xhoya on Jul 27, 2020 10:55:05 GMT -5
I think the players who opted out had the right idea. I haven’t followed MLB’s decision to play in a pandemic, but what was MLB’s position on wearing masks. Did the players’ union oppose it? Baseball players don’t have to run like in other sports, so why not order it, protect the players and protect the season? I don't know about masks but I believe the players union was against creating a bubble environment. The only way any of these seasons finish is if they are played in a bubble and each person adheres to the strict rules. So far the NBA has it right and there is the possibility of them finishing but that hinges on everyone remaining strictly adherent to the current policies. A bubble will be very difficult to enact for the NFL and college football due to the vast numbers associated with each team.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 27, 2020 11:07:24 GMT -5
One note on the opt out. If a player opted out because of a "pre-existing condition" he'd receive full pay and benefits. If you do not claim a pre-existing condition, you do not get pay and benefits. For example, on the Nats, Ryan Zimmerman opted out ostensibly because his mother has multiple sclerosis. I also believe that for privacy reasons, you do not have to publicly state the reason for an opt out, if any. I'd assume if you had a pregnant wife or any family member with a pre-existing illness/condition, you'd fall into the "get paid" category. I think Joe Ross of the Nats opted out but it is unknown if it is because of a pre-existing condition or not.
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 27, 2020 13:27:35 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Jul 27, 2020 20:33:09 GMT -5
I haven’t followed MLB’s decision to play in a pandemic, but what was MLB’s position on wearing masks. Did the players’ union oppose it? Baseball players don’t have to run like in other sports, so why not order it, protect the players and protect the season? I don't know about masks but I believe the players union was against creating a bubble environment. The only way any of these seasons finish is if they are played in a bubble and each person adheres to the strict rules. So far the NBA has it right and there is the possibility of them finishing but that hinges on everyone remaining strictly adherent to the current policies. A bubble will be very difficult to enact for the NFL and college football due to the vast numbers associated with each team. The way I see it, football doesn't have a prayer. I'd love to be wrong if being wrong means that the players and staff and their families are staying safe and healthy, but I think more likely they don't make it through more than a couple weeks of games before the house of cards comes tumbling down. Also, don't forget hockey. I think hockey has the best shot of all at crowning a champion, since all games will be in Canada.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 3, 2020 15:00:02 GMT -5
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Post by flyoverhoya on Aug 4, 2020 16:18:23 GMT -5
Not a serious proposal, I realize, but perhaps the only way to try and drive behavior outside the "bubble" sports (and maybe there, too) would be to consider every game a team can't play due to positive COVID tests to be a forfeit. If both teams have positive players, the one with more gets the "L."
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