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Post by Elvado on Nov 22, 2020 5:31:22 GMT -5
If Michael Graham played 4 years with the Hoyas is it crazy to think one more NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP, an additional FINAL 4 (or 2) and a more lasting feeling of “dominance”? Not crazy; likely. There is no way Nova shoots 75% is Graham is on the floor.
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Post by dchoya72 on Nov 22, 2020 6:40:45 GMT -5
There was a great show on NBA TV about Patrick Ewing yesterday...a highlight reel. Glad he helped win the Olympic Games championship. He just missed on NBA championships. Outstanding player as we all know.
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Post by 87hoya on Nov 22, 2020 10:08:12 GMT -5
Sleep. My first, and most lasting memory, the dunk on David Russell in the semis of the Big East against St. John's.
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Post by mapei on Nov 22, 2020 12:54:14 GMT -5
I actually think the '85 team was better (slightly) than the '84 team that won the tournament.
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Post by paranoia2 on Nov 22, 2020 18:05:21 GMT -5
Minus Gene Smith, Fred Brown & Michael Graham the 1985 team was minus a ton of TOUGHNESS & INTIMIDATION. The 1985 edition did run some of the sleekest & skillful fast breaks & with any sort of shot clock wins the title.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 22, 2020 19:23:19 GMT -5
Agree that the ’85 team may have been slightly better than ‘84. ‘85 Hoya team was the best team that year. There were several teams you could consider better in ‘84, including Jordan/Perkins UNC.
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 23, 2020 20:08:15 GMT -5
If Michael Graham played 4 years with the Hoyas is it crazy to think one more NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP, an additional FINAL 4 (or 2) and a more lasting feeling of “dominance”? Not crazy; likely. There is no way Nova shoots 75% is Graham is on the floor. There's no way Nova should have shot 75% even without Graham on the floor.
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Post by Elvado on Nov 23, 2020 20:17:22 GMT -5
Not crazy; likely. There is no way Nova shoots 75% is Graham is on the floor. There's no way Nova should have shot 75% even without Graham on the floor. Perhaps but it is hard to shoot with your head on a swivel. All that said, we lead 53-52 with the ball before Billy threw the ball away. If you can’t tell, I am still sick over it.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 23, 2020 22:42:59 GMT -5
The 1984-85 was a great team, but could have been historic. Yes, bearing in mind that most of the recruiting took place prior to the 1984 title, it was a major miss coming off three straight top 15 classes.
Three of the top three regional players from 1983-84 all ended up in the ACC: Duane Ferrell to Georgia Tech, Derrick Lewis to Maryland, and Wally Lancaster to Maryland. Also heading out of town: Tyrone Jones to Oklahoma and Billy King to Duke. (Danny Ferry was a year away.) Mike Krzyzewski had already staked his local recruiting claims by picking up Johnny Dawkins from Mackin in 1982 and Tommy Amaker from W.T. Woodson in 1983 and Thompson wasn't signing either of them.
Any combination of these All-Mets in blue & gray would have been phenomenal and long-lasting.
Despite graduating two guards, Thompson focused on big men nationally, losing out on Charles Smith (to Pitt) and Craig Jackson to UCLA. So for the younger readers, who did Georgetown sign?
--The only top 100 player was the hugely disappointing Grady Mateen, a timid 6-11 center who averaged 3 points and 2 rebounds a game. He quit the team during the 1985-86 season--not after it, during it. --The star of the class was the underrated Perry McDonald, who if he was 6-6 would have enjoyed a long NBA career. Instead, he was officially 6-4, maybe 6-3, and never got a shot at the NBA. --The other guard signed was little-known Kevin Floyd out of Los Angeles, who averaged 1.5 ppg and left after one season, telling the LA Times he could "sit on the bench 3,000 miles closer to home." --With Michael Graham out of action for 84-85, Thompson picked up 26 year old Ronnie Highsmith from the Army. Sarge was a hustle player but he was no Michael Graham.
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Post by DallasHoya on Nov 23, 2020 22:55:41 GMT -5
There's no way Nova should have shot 75% even without Graham on the floor. Perhaps but it is hard to shoot with your head on a swivel. All that said, we lead 53-52 with the ball before Billy threw the ball away. If you can’t tell, I am still sick over it. “The Wildcats built a 53-48 advantage with six minutes to play, but Georgetown ran off six straight points to take the lead, forced a Villanova turnover and went into a four corners in an attempt to coax Villanova into a man-to-man defense. The stall lasted less than half a minute before Martin’s hard pass bounced off Broadnax’s shin near the sideline in front of the Georgetown bench. “I threw a bad pass that Horace Broadnax was too lazy to bend over and catch,” says Martin. Is he kidding? After all these years? “It was a low pass,” Martin says. “Personally, I would have caught it.” Broadnax says, “A lot of people said it was a tough pass. If you’re going to win championships, you’ve got to catch those. Got to.” He has never discussed the play with Martin. The two have not seen each other since Martin graduated in the spring of 1985. (Asked recently if that silence still remains, Martin said, “I talked to Horace a few days ago. I called him to gauge his interest in my son playing for him at Savannah State.” Broadnax has been head coach at Division I Savannah State since 2005. Martin said this was not the first time they had spoken. “I saw him a few years ago at a Georgetown function.” Have they ever talked about the turnover? “No,” said Martin.)” www.si.com/longform/2015/1985/villanova/index.html
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Post by Elvado on Nov 24, 2020 5:03:47 GMT -5
Perhaps but it is hard to shoot with your head on a swivel. All that said, we lead 53-52 with the ball before Billy threw the ball away. If you can’t tell, I am still sick over it. “The Wildcats built a 53-48 advantage with six minutes to play, but Georgetown ran off six straight points to take the lead, forced a Villanova turnover and went into a four corners in an attempt to coax Villanova into a man-to-man defense. The stall lasted less than half a minute before Martin’s hard pass bounced off Broadnax’s shin near the sideline in front of the Georgetown bench. “I threw a bad pass that Horace Broadnax was too lazy to bend over and catch,” says Martin. Is he kidding? After all these years? “It was a low pass,” Martin says. “Personally, I would have caught it.” Broadnax says, “A lot of people said it was a tough pass. If you’re going to win championships, you’ve got to catch those. Got to.” He has never discussed the play with Martin. The two have not seen each other since Martin graduated in the spring of 1985. (Asked recently if that silence still remains, Martin said, “I talked to Horace a few days ago. I called him to gauge his interest in my son playing for him at Savannah State.” Broadnax has been head coach at Division I Savannah State since 2005. Martin said this was not the first time they had spoken. “I saw him a few years ago at a Georgetown function.” Have they ever talked about the turnover? “No,” said Martin.)” www.si.com/longform/2015/1985/villanova/index.htmlAnd the scab is torn off anew....
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Post by professorhoya on Nov 24, 2020 8:15:06 GMT -5
If Michael Graham played 4 years with the Hoyas is it crazy to think one more NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP, an additional FINAL 4 (or 2) and a more lasting feeling of “dominance”? Not crazy; likely. There is no way Nova shoots 75% is Graham is on the floor. Plus College shot clock was introduced a couple months after that game. That game was the last game in NCAA history without a shot clock.
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Post by wisconsinhoya on Nov 29, 2020 1:46:57 GMT -5
If Michael Graham comes back in 1985 and plays for the Hoyas, does that team finish 38-0? Without Michael Graham we finish 35-3, and those three losses were all within a bucket of being victories. We could have been an undefeated National Champion in a year that our conference sent 3 teams to the Final Four. Not crazy; likely. There is no way Nova shoots 75% is Graham is on the floor. There's no way Nova should have shot 75% even without Graham on the floor.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 16, 2020 20:29:46 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 22, 2021 17:26:53 GMT -5
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Post by beenaround on Jan 22, 2021 17:38:39 GMT -5
Great name from the past. Felt he was a solid contributor.
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Post by the_way on Jan 22, 2021 18:12:22 GMT -5
Bullis was before my time, but reading the history project it says he sat out his senior year. Does anyone know the reason? Sounds like a solid, player off the bench.
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Post by SSHoya on Jan 22, 2021 18:39:11 GMT -5
Bullis was before my time, but reading the history project it says he sat out his senior year. Does anyone know the reason? Sounds like a solid, player off the bench. If I recall correctly (and apparently I do), he was diagnosed with a heart condition. EDIT: No irregularities were found in presseason stress tests administered all GU basketball candidates, but diagnosis after Bullis' hospital admission Sunday night was "an irregular heartbeat," according to Jim Marchiony, GU sports information director. Tests continue. www.washingtonpost.com/archive/sports/1980/01/22/bullis-heart-problem/c639f91a-e5bb-4151-8ae5-dee316b167ed/
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